anybody else here excited about the Rams coming back to LA?

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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    unless you been living on a deserted island,its pretty obvious they are coming back next year.the only question is NOW will the raiders and chargers be able to get something done in their cities and stay.if not,i see the chargers going to LA to join the rams as a second tenant and the Raiders moving to san antonio.It sucks because while its great that the Rams are coming back since thats where they belong,it sucks for the fans in san diego and in oakland because thats where the Raiders and Chargers belong.

    I will have had it with the NFL even when the Rams do move back which I have waited for the past 20 years and will switch to college football because i am tired of teams being able to leave their cities and give their fans the middle finger just because they dont get what they want.

    I know what it felt like as an LA RAM fan when that happened to me and I would never wish that on anyone.except st louis because those (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s down there were willing to steal something that did not belong to them and are jerks for willing to steal something after someone stole something from them when the cardinals left.so i will be laughing when they cry about losing their team.

    as much as i want the Rams back i will have had it with the NFL even when they do come back next year if the chargers and raiders dont stay in their cities because the NFL will have become a circus and a joke the way they are allowed to leave at the drop of a hat all the time.
     
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    It's kinda weird that the, what, second largest city in the entire US (or is that Houston??) has no NFL team....but NASHVILLE does!? Weird.
     
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    yeah one more example of how the NFL is a joke.Its a travesty of justice that there is no law that prevents teams from leaving their cities when they have a long history and tradition there.
     
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    Okay now I have to retire my St Louis Rams clothing and get out the old LA Rams clothing (see, throw nothing out, you will need it!)
     
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    The Los Angeles territory franchise rights are owned by the National Football League. Any team at present, making an effort to relocate their club MUST go to Los Angeles, no other city. The NFL has also floated the idea of putting an expansion team there, but the team most likely to move is the St.Louis Rams, despite the fact that the team the league really wants to move up there is San Diego. They built a swank new baseball stadium there, but have never been able to get a new football stadium in San Diego.

    The late Ralph Wilson, who owned the Buffalo Bills, championed the small market teams, and made it possible for them to exist, and it worked. The Buffalo Bills are safe there for 10-years, with a new stadium renovation. Familiar with the situation up in WNY because it is my hometown. Bills fans always were afraid the team was going to be moved 90-miles north, to Toronto, Canada. That won't happen now, but sports fans are fanatical in many cities (look at Cleveland's response to the return of LeBron James in basketball), and are always worried about greedy owners looking for greener pastures. An Oakland Raiders move back to Los Angeles, after they dumped the metropolis, leaving with a defending Super Bowl champion team, think is a pipe dream. Raiders will stay put, even if they have to play in the same new stadium in Santa Clara with the San Francisco 49'ers. No particular reason for this once proud franchise to be moving back down to Southern California. The Los Angeles situation is similar to the one in the National Hockey League, where the largest city in Canada, with the Toronto Maple Leafs, hasn't won a Stanley Cup Championship since 1967 (and that one was televised in B&W). That's how long the Leafs have been down. LA has gotten along without professional football for a long time now. Lets remember, the city lost two NFL franchises in its history so far, so, any team moving in, will probably be faced with some fan apathy.

    Not sure what the stadium situation is out there anymore (I used to live in Los Angeles). Last I heard there possibly was a new stadium going up at UC-Irving or UC-Davis. The Coliseum and the Rose Bowl are bleacher seating's, not up to NFL caliber standards to host professional football, although both stadiums did host the Super Bowl. Don't even remember what the situation was out there when the Rams bailed on that hugely populous metropolis to go to one of the smaller cities in the nation, St.Louis (a baseball, not a football town). It always seemed that, due to costs, they wanted a team to relocate there, play three years in the Coliseum (I wouldn't go to an NFL game there on a free ticket), and than build a stadium. Nobody really wanted to take a shot of "If you build it, they will come" and put up an NFL caliber stadium. Actually, for years, the Rams were not the most popular NFL team out there. The Dallas Cowboys training camp was at Thousand Oaks for 25-plus years, and the Cowboys had as many fans as the Rams. Remember the two clubs playing for the NFL championship, and there were more Dallas fans than Rams fans in the seats.

    Just to update. St.Louis is probably the best baseball city in America. They have been hampered in other sports however. The Hawks moved to Atlanta in the NBA, and the Cardinals moved to Arizona in the NFL. Now, apparently, they are having trouble with the Rams, and want a new taxpayer stadium and are threatening to move if they don't get it. But, the league requires that if they do get approval to move, they must go to Los Angeles, no other city can even offer them a thing. Actually, the NFL, if it was so concerned (and it hasn't been for decades), that LA didn't have a franchise, should have footed the bill, and built a stadium there a long time ago, and waited to see who wanted to move. Small market teams on the bubble to move out there were the Bills (who got local ownership, so they are not moving); Jacksonville, which tarps Alltel Stadium (the Gator Bowl Stadium), down to 62,000 fans, and barely gets that; and New Orleans, where the Superdome is a dump and the "Big Easy" lost 200,000 people who never returned after Hurricane Katrina. Minneapolis-St.Paul was also on the list (Seattle, Minneapolis and Indianapolis seem to have no trouble building new stadiums whenever they want to for the Seahawks; Vikings and Colts). Alex Spanos is determined to keep the Chargers in San Diego, and the unpredictable Al Davis is no longer alive to stir the pot over stadium rights in Oakland or move the club to Los Angeles.

    Lets not blame St.Louis for luring the Rams there. When the Los Angeles Rams left, believe they had converted Anaheim Stadium in Orange County over to football (it's a baseball stadium), and it could hold 62,000, and they were not getting anywhere near that in attendance. May be behind the curve on the stadium information and the Rams possibly moving, but I do know NFL Commish Roger Goodell pulls a lot of weight. He want the next team in the league in Los Angeles, and I don't think he particularly cares which small market club moves. He also wants a team in Toronto, and expansion team in Longon, England, and Birmingham, Alabama is ripe for an NFL franchise also. Goodell also eliminated the two best party towns in America, San Diego and Miami, from the Super Bowl host list, sending the game to Tampa (and the chance he took of it being played in a snowstorm outdoors in NYC). Raymond James Stadium in Tampa only holds 66,000, and Tampa-St.Petersburg is dead-city after 10:00pm. Miami has hosted the Super Bowl 11 times, Goodell's order was, renovate Sun-Life and perhaps the league will reconsider bringing the game back. Shesh.

    I would like to see the NFL in Los Angeles again, but don't really want to see the Chargers or Raiders moved to accomplish it. If the St.Louis owner's, who pressured LA for a stadium, and moved the club originally, are doing it again in St.Louis, they might be getting a "pig in a poke" as Los Angeles hasn't shown the support for NFL football. It also is a big college football town with USC - UCLA and the Rose Bowl out there. Luck to the City of Angels, but this has been a sort of dead story for a long long time - and although the league has made its wishes known and will enforce them, NFL football in LA, after being gone for such a long time, and not particularly being missed, just might be better to leave things alone. After all, it is only an hour drive South to San Diego for an NFL fix........
     
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    Believe Houston was the 4th largest city in the nation when the Oilers moved out for tiny Nashville. Los Angeles is the second largest, still is, and was when they moved to small market St.Louis (a baseball town) located in Missouri - which is a state devoted to Chiefs Nation..............
     
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    After Adolph HItler, the most hated man in Brooklyn still is Walter O'Malley for moving the Dodger's out to Los Angeles, and persuading the New York Giants to move to San Francisco a year later. I am a Dodger fan - LA - never saw them play as the Brooklyn Dodgers - but remember, professional football, basketball, baseball and hockey, with the exception of the Green Bay Packers, are private enterprises not public. If an owner doesn't like where his team is playing, the aging stadium's, the lack of attendance, there always is another city willing to lure his team there. Where the once feared Oakland Raiders, now the laughingstock of the NFL for 10-years running, play, won't bother anybody. I like tradition, but if they become the Los Angeles; Las Vegas (unlikely - city has one industry - gambling, more suited for an NBA franchise); Birmingham or San Antonio Raiders, probably won't bother anybody. Oakland is another small market club........
     
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    Why, is there someone out there who is happy about the Rams returning to L.A. ?

    Are there even enough Americans living in L.A. today to support a NFL team ?

    Do some have a memory loss of why the Rams left L.A. in the first place and moved to Orange County (Anaheim Stadium) ?

    If L.A. gets the Rams guess what you will end up having to watch on Sundays, the Rams.

    One of the best benefits when the Rams left Mexifornia and moved to St Louis, we Americans who are still left in Southern Mexifornia got to watch the best NFL games on television every Sunday. If the Rams return to L.A. it going to be watching the Rams every Sunday on television.

    What happened to the NFL position that any city that loots and burns down their own neighborhoods don't deserve a NFL team. Sounds like a good policy.
     
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    Not aware that the NFL has any policy regarding rioting over racial tensions, that would prohibit them moving a club into a particular city. Los Angeles has been the victim of two major, thunderous and disgusting race riots in its history. The Watts Riot and the South Central one. A race riot could, in fact, occur in just about any particular city in the NFL. We could have a Native American Indian march on Washington, D.C. over the Redskins name. Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, NYC, Baltimore, any one of those cities has severe racial tensions, and the Black population in Boston is always at odds with the Irish and Italians. We have just seen tensions mount in the Dallas area, and Houston is no better. Texas has a lot of profiling redneck white's left over from the segregation days and enough Black and Tex-Mex mixture to make them dangerous. The Miami Dolphins stadium is located in a suburb 15-miles from downtown, which is 90% Black with the highest crime rate in Florida.

    The Rams moved out of Anaheim due to lack of attendance and poor performing teams, if I remember correctly. Anaheim Stadium, The Big A, was designed and built as a baseball stadium, like Bush Stadium in St. Louis. It wasn't NFL friendly or up to par on the NFL's standard's regarding suites, big profits for stadium owners. Los Angeles itself is as broke as the state of California, that is why the citizenry has never gone ahead and voted for, or paid for a new stadium, there isn't a push for it.

    As far as watching only the Rams on Sunday's, one only has to buy the "NFL Ticket" on cable, and you get all the games, they can't black it out. I still don't know the exact details of a possible move by the Rams from St.Louis to Los Angeles. Has LA built a stadium for an NFL team, because Anaheim Stadium can no longer be used, the Coliseum is a dump with bleacher seating, and so is the Rose Bowl Stadium in Pasadena. Any NFL team silly enough to agree to play a couple of years in the Coliseum (the Rose Bowl doesn't allow NFL games, just college), and waits on the City of Angels to build a new stadium, with all of their financial problems out there, taking a big chance. Not exactly sure the owners would approve the move without a new stadium in place. The last thing they would want is any team going back into LA and being a bust, and moving out a couple of years later.

    If the NFL really wants a team in Los Angeles, instead of trying to force-feed the Charger's into moving up there (isn't going to happen), they should just get together and build a stadium in LA themselves and drop an expansion franchise in. The fact that they haven't reflects little interest by the NFL in returning to a city that has spurned them twice. The NFL's interest is not in football, it is in population and advertising revenue, and not having a team in the second largest market in America is what bother's them the most.............
     
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    I'm not surprised the Rams are moving back to LA. After all, the area has a rich tradition and genuine love of the game....who can forget the Championship season back in 2012.

    [video=youtube;y183CLLlsu8][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y183CLLlsu8[/video]
     
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    yeah I was smart on that unlike some fans in LA i know who burned their material and threw them away.see unlike them,i had hopes and always believed they would come back someday because of the raiders moving back to Oakland.I never thought THAT would happen so I always had a feeling in my gut that someday they would be back especially since it is the second biggest market in the country and the owners did not want them to leave in the first place only backing down and giving their blessing after the b!tch woman threatened to sue the NFL is they tried to stop her.
     
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    Thats not true about the Raiders.Oakland is their identity.I live here in kc and all the chiefs fans I talk with they want them to stay in Oakland because that is their history and their rivalry with them.When they played in LA i was like WTF? LOS ANGELES RAIDERS never sounded right.It sounded like you were talking about an arena football team or something.

    if the NFL was stupid enough to allow them to move out of oakland,i guarantee you it would be a disaster.they were never embraced in LA.the year they won the superbowl out there in LA,the next year for their home opener,they only drew a measly crowd of a little over 45,000 people where the Rams when they had their season home opener that year,drew a very good crowd of over 65,000 which was VERY impressive for them at that time since they had moved into anaheim and were playing in a BASEBALL stadium.The stadium was a small dump no less which made it all the more impressive considering Anaheim has a much smaller population than LA no less.:grin:

    the OAKLAND Raiders might have won a superbowl out there in LA,but nobody in LA cared.:laughing: that was why traiter Al moved them back to Oakland because he realised that was the biggest mistake he made was moving them there in the first place.The Rams left LA before the Raiders did so he could have had the LA market all to himself but he got embarrassed on seeing all those empty seats all the time and knew they did not support them out there so he moved them back.

    they have been HORRIBLE for the past 13 years or so and a joke of a team yet they STILL sold out everygame last year and even packed them in and stayed till the very end of the game through a driving rainstorm on a thursday night game against the chiefs.

    They were never supported in LA when they were WINNING as i just showed,just think how horrible the fan support would be for them in LA when they have been this bad for so many years.:laughing: that stadium would be a ghostown dude.lol

    you move them anywhere else in the country and i guarantee you,the fans wont pack them in and sell out their games like they do in oakland,you will have the same thing in another city that they had in LA with an empty stadium i guarantee.
     
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    Dude "I" dont have a memory loss of why the Rams left LA but YOU sure do.You clearly are not aware of the facts of the situation.The Rams left LA NOT because of poor fan support but because they could not get a new stadium.that is WHY they are leaving st louis and why other football teams always left in the past.

    the cardinals are the only team in the NFL that left their city that did not have the fan support matter of fact.the main reason of course was not having a new stadium but of all NFL teams that left their cities,the cardinals were the ONLY ones that did not have good fan support.

    No offense but you sound like a st louis native butthurt over the Rams moving back to where they belong because you are clearly clueless on the situation. LA has a population of over 17 million and you have this delusion that they dont have the population? :roll: and like st louis of only three million DOES?:roflol:

    You have been taken in by the MYTH that the media has spread that LA is not a football town which could not be further from the true.

    They always supported the Rams very well when they were there,they just did not support the RAIDERS when they were there.

    They moved to Anaheim not because of poor fan support in LA but for the same reason they left Anaheim because they could not get a new stadium.WHY do you think the Raiders left LA back to Oakland? It was because of the stadium dude.

    But unlike the Rams,THEY did not have good fan support as well.as i just got done proving,they had horrible fan support out there and were never embraced other than by the thugs out there in southern california.

    Yes you clearly are clueless on this because had you watched the game in san diego played this past season when the Rams played the Chargers you would have known that over half the fans that went to that game were LA RAM fans.The Rams scored the first touchdown in that game and it looked like half the entire stadium was cheering when they did.watch that game,you'll see for yourself.

    yeah you will be watching the Ram games on television naturally every sunday because they will have sellouts the fans so badly want them back.:roflol:

    oh and the Rams for most the time they spent there in LA,they were usually in the top five in attendance.Not only that,they set an NFL record for the largest attendance for an NFL game ever in 1958 with a crowd over 100,000 dude.

    oh and it wasnt the TEAM that wanted to leave,it was that evil b!tch owner who was a showgirl from st louis who moved them.she murdered her husband so she could get ownership of the team to move them.

    The Rams for most the time they were in LA and orange county,were always in the top 5 in attendance,it was only in the early 90's when they did not draw well and that was because fans got sick of the stupid owner because she purposely destroyed the team getting rid of all their great players such as Eric Dickerson,Kevin Greene,Toby Harrah and others.

    Here is the poof in the pudding you have been taken in by the myth that the Rams were not supported well in LA. Al Michaels who used to broadcast a lot of games out there,talks about it in this video how the games out there always drew well.hear watch and learn.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCOfrIBkWZ0


    oh and take a look at these two videos here as well.One against the ST LOUIS cardinals in 1975 who were a HORRIBLE team, yet as you can see from watching the video,the LA coliseum was packed to the max for that game.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP61GDj25x8

    Looked like a packed crowd to me.:roflol:

    and take a look at this one in anaheim against the eagles in the early 90's.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iepQ6vAipA

    Looks like jam packed crowds to me.
    :roflol::roll:

    finally take a look at this video.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL322ugc4Oc

    looks like THOUSANDS of LA Ram fans at san diego to me.:roflol:


    dude your one of those people i bee talking about who has been living on a deserted island.lol
     
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    "Dude" ???

    I'm willing to bet you never attended a Dodger game when they played at the L.A. Coliseum.

    How many Ram games did you attend at the Coliseum or Anaheim Stadium ?

    I will never embarrass anyone ever asking them if they attended a L.A. Raiders game or were a Raiders fans. It like asking someone if they voted for Obama.

    The Los Angeles Metro area isn't the same today as it was thirty or twenty years ago.

    The NFL still hasn't answered the question if a NFL team relocates to L.A. will the stadium PA system will be broadcasting in English or Spanish ? And will L.A. games broadcast on television be sub titled in English or Spanish ?

    L.A. County is poor today compared to twenty years ago. 1/2 of L.A. County's the adult population are either illiterate or functional illiterates.

    There's more to the story why the Rams left L.A. and moved to the OC, it has to do with who raped after one of the games just outside of the L.A. Coliseum. That neighborhood around USC isn't the nicest neighborhood in America.

    Attending a NFL game isn't cheap and the vast majority of Angelenos can't afford to attend a NFL game. -> http://blog.tiqiq.com/2013/08/2013-nfl-tickets-team-team-average-prices/

     
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    i meant to ask earlier,what deserted island you been living on your whole life?:roflol: I mean seriously,really. you have to be a foreigner from another country who just moved here to america recently.:roflol:

    Thats the ONLY thing that makes any sense how you could be that ignorant to say that LA,a population of over 18 million could not support a team.:roflol: if you were from another country i would cut you some slack on that kind of ignorance so if you are,then thats totally understandable where you come up with that crap.

    and your not listening.LA has MOVIE STARS.CELEBRITYS.RICH people who live in beverly hills and near hollywood,not to mention other rich folks that live in LA counties like Long beach as well.

    why do you think ticket prices in that dump in stank louis are so low?Low as $8.00 a ticket? now THATS a poor city dude.:roflol:

    Like that other poster said,stank louis is a BASEBALL town dude.they dont care about football.this is a true story.when the cardinals came to kc a couple weeks ago,I did a survey to satisfy my curiousity asking cardinal fans how they felt about the Rams going back to LA.I asked about 30 of them. guess what? most of them said-I dont care,they can have them. only about a handful of them said they were not happy about it,

    reread what I just posted and watch the videos i posted as well because your not listening.
     
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    oh and something else.WATCH that last video on that first post of mine i made to you in post # 14.

    Because you not only did not watch it or the other two,you also did not read the ENTIRE post of what i said.you clearly only read a couple of sentences of mine because i addressed and debunked everything you said.:roll:

    ONE MORE TIME since you ignored it.

    Other than the early 90's when they got disgusted with the evil woman for gutting the team trading away Eric Dickerson,Kevin Greene,Toby Harrah and many other Ram greats causing them to become a bad team,the Rams had excellent fan support.AGAIN,most their time out there,they were in the top 5 in fan attendance around the country.

    sorry but i would say Al Michaels has more credibility than you do.lol.had you bothered to watch that video,you would understand how ignorant your comments were.:roll:

    PLUS football is MUCH bigger now than it was 20 years ago and the Rams have such a long storied history there with so many fans there that are football starved and eager to get them back,that SELLOUTS will be no problem there ESPECIALLY since the younger generation will be bringing them in new fans as well.

    do you have reading comprehension problems or something? seriously because had you bothered to read the ENTIRE post of mine and bothered to watch that video I posted of when the Rams came to san diego last year,you would have noticed that at LEAST half the fans that showed up for that game were LA RAM fans cheering on the team.:roflol: i would say thats pretty impressive numbers especially since the game wasnt even in LA,that it was in san diego.:roll:


    you clearly grew up in stank louis and are butthurt that they are leaving your hometown city.thats the only thing that makes any sense why you play dodgeball and refuse to watch that video i posted or read the entire post of mine.


    like i said before,sorry but I think al michaels has just a LITTLE bit more credibility than you do when he says the Rams left LA because of stadium issues.not because they did not have fan support other than the early 90's of course when the evil owner purposely got rid of dickerson and other great players so fans would stop showing up so she could claim to the newspapers she wasnt getting fan support so she could move them to her hometown in stank louis.
     
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    The Rams for the second year in a row matter of fact,came in second to last in attendance for the entire season.Last year only jacksonville finished worst than them.This year Minnesota did because they are playing at a university while their new stadium gets built.

    The Rams only average around 30,000 fans or so for their home games and guess what? most of them are always from the opposing team.:roflol: I have a friend that lives in stank louis and he tells me it feels like a road game anytime when he goes to home games there.:roflol:

    All you got to do to see how horrible the fan support there is in stank louis is watch the Rams home game on a monday night football against the 49ers.

    Just 5 minutes before the game starts,in the pregame show you hear steve young talk about it if the Rams will be playing in st louis after the 2014 season you hear him say-we have an owner who wants to move there and frankly i dont blame him.I look around here and all i see is a bunch of empty seats everywhere.:roflol:

    watch the game yourself if you dont believe me.

    whats really hard to believe though is the fan support is going to be even much worse THIS year than it was last year though which is hard to believe since last year,the fan support was so terrible.

    its going to be even worse this year as hard as it is to believe because there has been a 20% dropoff in season ticket sales.That place is going to be a ghost town this year when they have their home games.:roflol:

    Kroneke is going to be eager as hell to get the hell out of dodge.lol

    thats not much of an exagerration either since st louis is very close to dodge city.hee hee.

    oh and WHY you even bothered posting that article is beyond me since it is irrelevent and has nothign whatsoever to do with fan support.matter of fact it only reinforces what i said,that the fan support was only bad for that game because fans knew they were as good as gone and leaving them so you are only helping me prove you wrong FOR YOU.:roflol:
     
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    one more thing i forgot to mention as well is according to YOUR warped logic you have,then the 49ers moved out of san francisco to santa clara because THEY did not have the population to support them as well.:roflol:

    yeah your obviously a st louis native butthurt they are leaving the city you love.:roflol:
     
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