anybody else here excited about the Rams coming back to LA?

Indeed they will in 2016 when they are playing there.this year is different than years past when many people speculated the NFL will be back in LA such as when they were saying the vikings might move there like ten years ago or the chargers would five years ago and that is because for one,unlike in years past,the NFL has never built it up for an entire season like they have this year that there would be a team in LA next season.NEVER.

this week the NFL is meeting in st louis,san diego and oakland to let fans ask questions about it.that has never happened either.

craig mortenson of ESPN NFL network was on fred roggins radio show in LA and he said the NFL coming back to LA is a done deal next year.Unlike other people in sports,he has never said the NFL will be back to LA in the past like so many others have. mortenson is very well connected in the NFL.if HE SAYS its happening,its happening,you can bank on it.

terry bradshaw was on st louis's radio station saying it is a 100 percent done deal the Rams will be in LA next year. If terrry bradshaw said that you cant bank on it,there is no question.Neither him and the NFL would put their credibility on the line like that if there was any chance the NFL would not be in LA next year.

He said on the show that everyone there at FOX CBS network has known about it for the past two years that they were going to be in LA next season. Howie Long is with fox as well and his son chris plays for the Rams so Long has some inside information on them obviously.

there is also the fact that stan kronekes son has tweeted on twitter that he has been unable to communicate with his father lately when texting him because he is too busy fast tracking the team to LA.

In all polls taken of the three teams fans would like to see the most come back to LA between the Rams,Raiders and Chargers all with stadium issues,the Rams came in first everytime. the LA times polls did a poll and ESPN did as well and each time the Rams came in first with 60% of the votes,Raiders second with 35% of the votes and chargers a distant third with 5% of the votes.

If it is the Rams and the Rams alone next year it will work.

oakland and san diego support their teams very well so they should stay.st louis on the other hand,that stadium is half empty for games all the time,they dont deserve the Rams.


Like Roggin has always said on his radio show in LA,read between the tea leaves,think with your head,not with your heart which is what the people in st louis do.lol

Roggins always says Inglewood is set to break ground in construction for the stadium in december so they can open in 2018. He always says the narrative from inglewood has always been-we are building a stadium in inglewood starting in december.Thats the facts that show the NFL is coming to LA.

now if inglewood comes out and says we are NOT building a stadium in LA,then I will tell you and I will say I was wrong.but so far i havent been on this. sounds like pretty sound logic to me dont you agree?

that was all ROGGINS words "NOT" mine. Roggin has been dead on right on everything he has reported on this.He tells the truth that the rest of the media does not.

 

please stay on the topic or dont post on the thread.clearly there is no interest at this site whatsoever in this topic so i was willing to let it die and would not have brought it back had alucurd not posted here which is the ONLY reason i brought it back.

so err try to remember,this thread is about the Rams coming back to LA next year.

instead of posting about something like how the rules of the NFL have changed or college football,if you want to post in this thread,then keep it on topic,address my last post for instance.is that TOO much to ask?

 

thankfully the raiders will never come back to LA.the politicians and the owners dont want the raiders there because of the gang image it promotes.PLUS they would never get any sponsorships from the corporations that put up the money there in LA to market them.

the NFL wants an owner with deep pockets there in LA.to be in LA you got o have deep pockets.Neither spanos or davis have deep pockets.Kroneke does so the Rams are the perfect fit espeically since they have the history there.

here in this video is WHY the Raiders will never come back to LA.this sports columnist understands it why it should be the Rams and only the Rams,why the raiders and chargers should stay in san diego and oakland.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp...tually-wants-video-20151026-premiumvideo.html

 

this is WHY it will be the Rams and only the Rams coming back to LA.this guy nailed it below.

I keep reminding everyone that the Chargers and Raiders have no place to play if
They try to relocate the LA. The coliseum has told the NFL that it will host one NFL team. USC controls the coliseum and the AD is Pat Haden an ex-Rams QB who has already stated that the Rams are the preferred team

 

Fine. Happy to butt out. I hope that if the Rams and the people of Los Angeles want to get together that they do... or, whatever. It does seem bizarre that a metro area as large and significant as Los Angeles wouldn't have a professional football team. Have a nice thread.

 

thank you,and yes it is very strange that they have never had a football team while small towns like jacksonville and tennesse have.the NFL did try to get one like what was it ten years ago when they were trying to get one back to LA bit it got rewarded to houston instead? the group that was trying to get the team to LA wasnt serious about it and it did not work out thank god because i did not want LA to have any other team other than the Rams so i was happy when it failed and did not come together and they gave it to houston instead.

as far as the topic, anyone who does not think the rams are coming back to LA next year after my first post i posted with facts on this page ,really needs to get off the crack they been smoking. if terry bradshaw says it is a 100% done deal,it IS a 100% done deal.

 

this will probably not be read since nobody here seems to have an interest in it so it will more than likely be my last post on this thread but on the offchance this post DOES get read here it is for the couple of people or so that have come on here and ignored FACTS that prove beyond a doubt the NFL will be back in LA next year and its a given it will be the Rams over the chargers or raiders, here it is for you DUMMIES STYLE.

Inglewood is set to begin construction in december.that is just one month from now.they got the bulldozers there already to go and the dirt has been moving. they have a target date of 2018 set for the stadium to open.in the meantime in those two years while wating for the stadium,they will play in the LA coliseum.the NFL has talked with them about using the facility till then.

UNLESS inglewood comes out and says-we are not building an NFL stadium,we change our minds.Then the Rams will be in LA next year.that is such simple logic to comprehend even a child could understand that and would agree they will be in LA next year.

Inglewood has not come out and said they are not building a stadium,so its a done deal.LA RAMS 2016,end of discussion.period.

 

Ya, the Rams arent going anywhere. The Radiers will be there before any other team.

 

incorrect,the Rams are a done deal.Kroneke at the last NFL owners meeting this summer said that st louis does not work for him as an NFL city.Not only that he can legally move them. The Rams honored the terms in the lease agreement with st louis,st louis did not honor the terms so he can legally move them after this season. The city of Inglewood is already set ready for construction to begin on the stadium this december.

Raiders going to LA? get serious. the only way the Raiders ever go back to LA is if they rebrand and get a new owner. the only fans that embraced the Raiders when they were in LA were thugs and gangs. they caused fights in the stands. The corporations that would put up the money to sponsor them want nothing to do with the Raiders. the owners are sore at the davis family for suing the league to move to LA so the Raiders will never get approval to move from them and the politicians in LA dont want the Raiders there for the previous reason mentioned.

Rams are a done deal in 2016.

 

Here is the proof in the pudding that it was only thugs and gang members for the most part who embraced the Raiders when they were in LA.

the year the Raiders won the superbowl out there in LA,the very next year for their home opener they only drew a small measly crowd of just 46,269 there.

what did the Rams draw that same season? 65,403 of a standing room only crowd which was pretty impressive itself since they were playing in a baseball stadium..

The Oakland Raiders might have won a superbowl out there in LA but nobody in LA cared,they did not care because LA only cares about the Rams,nobody else.


The city of LA DOES have passion and heart for football,but only for the Rams,not for the Raiders or chargers obviously.

 

Lets back off on the "dummies" rhetoric - it is a thread about professional football which began with the Rams moving to Los Angeles. The only source that is pertinent is the NFL owners' vote, nothing the "talking heads" idiots say on television or radio is pertinent. If the owners want to let the owner move the St.Louis club back to Los Angeles they will. The fact that the owner's are allowing the fans in Oakland and San Diego an audience on the matter proves it isn't settled by any stretch of the imagination. So, back off with the insults - you are the only one interested really in this subject. If we want to discuss rules changes along with the thread topic in the NFL, it is fine. BTW, where are your sources regarding the Disney Corporation building a football stadium in Los Angeles? What exactly is the current state of construction of the Wal Mart superstore being built in Inglewood that seems to be a given according to you, that will be the Rams new football stadium? Have the broken ground, because if they haven't, your predictions are not coming true. Chill..........

 

Pretty sad when even Herkdriver "who lives in st louis and wants the Rams to stay in there." ,that even HE has is no longer in denial mode like he used to be on the Rams leaving for LA,that EVEN HE has now gone from saying the Rams are staying in st louis to now accepting it that they are out the door after this year..

I can respect Herkdriver even though he wants them to stay there because he doesnt ignore facts and has excepted it that they have one foot out the door right now.


Here is the proof in the pudding that unlike someone else here,HE has gone from denial mode saying they were going to stay,to accepting it that they are gone this year below.


HERE IS THE PREVIOUS POST WHEN HE WAS IN DENIAL MODE THAT THE RAMS WOULD STAY IN ST LOUIS.
I look forward to watching a Rams playoff game in 2018 from the comfort of a seat in the new St. Louis Riverfront stadium. Perhaps Los Angeles will get a lingerie football team in the near future.


HERE IS A RECENT POST OF HIS SAYING JUST THE OPPOSITE ACCEPTING THE FACTS THEY ARE OUT THE DOOR AFTER THIS YEAR.

Rams & Chargers move to LA
Raiders go to StL

This is my prediction.

California can only support 3 NFL teams and St. Louis is NFL ready today to accept the Raiders

The Rams will play in the LA Coliseum for a season or two...which is a complete dump. They have no offense to speak of with a questionable QB at the helm.

Los Angeles won't support a losing team for very long and the Rams are a losing franchise.

Meanwhile the Raiders are improved and St. Louis should welcome them if they decide to move here.

I tip my hat off to Herkdriver and give him kudos for not ignoring facts and accepting reality WELL DONE Herk..

maybe you can expalin to someone else here the reality of the situation.anytime i try it just goes through one ear and out the other.

Like I said,even though Herkdriver disagrees with me about wanting the Rams to stay in st louis,I respect him because again,he isnt ignoring facts and accepts if that they are as good as gone. Thats what happens when you stop drinking the koolaide some others in st louis are drinking.

Because of that Herk,I really hope you get your cardinals back sometime in the future.matter of fact,I think it would be more productive for st louis fans to instead of worrying about a lost cause on keeping the Rams,to try and get a lawsuit going in the city against the Bidwills to get the cardinals back.

sure would be more productive for st louis folks.

 

What's a Herkdriver - a machine or something? What is most surprising is the fact that you live in Kansas, not Los Angeles, and apparently never even attended Rams games out there - I did, and the Dallas Cowboys were than, and probably still are, the Los Angeles market's favorite team, even though they adopted the Charger's as their home club when the Rams left. Not much to root for on any of these clubs - Rams; Chargers or Raiders, three losing franchises caught up in controversy about who should, or shouldn't get one of the feeble attendance markets in the NFL, the Los Angeles territorial rights. Betting on three losers, and going into the Los Angeles Coliseum with an NFL team is death for attendance - that is an absolute fact you don't seem to understand. Now, answer the question, has ground been broken in Inglewood or anyplace else in Los Angeles County for construction of a new stadium there? If so, when, what is its construction status, completion date, capacity, etc. If you can't answer these questions, and your alleged absolute "sources" inside the NFL you are so fond of bragging about can't answer this question - than the idea of an NFL franchise moving to LA, Rams, Raiders or Chargers isn't settled at all. The owners are going to look askance at any suggestion of any team returning to the LA Coliseum for any purpose. The lack of a constructed stadium to accommodate ANY team moving to the LA territory is the main reason no team has attempted it - the league owners are dead set against playing NFL football in that dump. It serves well for 6-7 college football and high school games, but is not NFL caliber, and you have a league commish who is hugely involved in stadium matters regarding relocation, and stadium fixes (Miami - Buffalo - New Orleans), to keep their teams, he is never going to buy a pig in the poke of an NFL presence in the Coliseum. You are blowing deflection smoke here - when you have solid news about stadium construction breaking ground - get back and post, in the meantime, this thread is dead...............

 

Stanfan:

I have to admit that 9/11 was an inside job has taken you back to school on this topic. The Rams are going back to LA, period. Why do you ignore and dismiss all the facts he has enumerated??? Is it because you don't feel motivated to deal with such prosaic things like R-E-A-L-I-T-Y????

 

Nope, just asked him a very simple question. Has ground been broken on construction for a new football stadium in Inglewood, California, and if so, what is its completion date; status; capacity, etc. He has taken anybody to school with his silly "prediction's" none of which is evidence the NFL will vote to take the Rams out of St.Louis (they could end up playing in Birmingham, Alabama), or San Antonio, Texas. The NFL wants the Charger's up there, who also have stadium difficulties in San Diego County. Where the Raiders go isn't much of a concern, unless they are interested in the LA market also. The league has left the LA territory vacant for 20-years due to lack of an NFL caliber stadium. No owner has ever been willing to play in the LA Coliseum, and hope a new stadium will be built out there. Any team going into the Coliseum, is playing in one of the ugliest sections of Los Angeles, and two years in there, with the muggings (heck, they were mugging Giants fans for two years at Dodger Stadium), is an automatic loser proposition. Otherwise, the league would have called for a vote a long, long time ago. Kronke wants to take the Rams back to LA, the league wants the Chargers to move to LA, and not the Raiders. The idea that the Rams and Chargers both go to LA, and the Oakland Raiders move into St.Louis, possible, even probable.

As I posted, when ground is broken and a stadium is under construction in Inglewood, California, no prediction, nothing, is settled, and I do not think the owners want another loser team in LA right off the bat, if that was the case, they would have given them an expansion club years ago.

I lived in both Los Angeles and San Diego, the football atmosphere in Los Angeles sucks, the stadium in San Diego sucks. The league commisioner has given orders to enhance Sun-Life in Miami, holding the fact that Miami has hosted the most Super Bowls of any team and not giving them the game again, until they fix the place.

Buffalo, which spent around $25 million renovating their outdoor Ralph Wilson Stadium nicely, has 8-years on the lease, after that, no domed stadium according to the commish, and the Bills have to move.

The New Orleans Saints facility is a wreck, hell, the lights went out there during the Super Bowl, and the city has lost half of its population since Hurricane Katrina. All the wealthy bailed on "The Big Easy" - surprised they are not in the LA sweepstakes race.

The league owners MIGHT vote to allow Kronke to move the Rams back to Los Angeles - but that Coliseum mess still holds them back, and with no information regarding the start of construction of a new stadium there, they will be hesitant to return to the mob-gang ruled mess they had with the Raiders in there. Kronke has to be willing to accept three full years of empty seats and an ironclad guarantee that the Rams never again will be moved out of LA, if he wants the votes to go there.

9/11 is just writing out of his hat - no stadium construction - two to three years in the LA Coliseum before a new stadium is built in a bankrupt city, big hurdle to ask of the owners who have survived nicely with Los Angeles vacant for years. "If you build it, they will come." If LA REALLY wanted a team there, they would have put up a new NFL caliber stadium years ago, and the Titans - Texans - Jags - Browns - Saints and Cardinals wouldn't exist in their current locations - one of them would have made the move................

 

Ah come on! I mean Really????? L.A. has a population for eight or more football teams!!!--- with a population of nearly 4 million people!!! The city is the focal point of the larger Los Angeles metropolitan area and the Greater Los Angeles Area region, which contains 13 million and over 18 million people, respectively, as of 2010, making it one of the most populous metropolitan areas in the world as well as the second-largest in the United States. For the sake of comparison let's look at Miami, FL which has one very popular football team (The Dolphins). Miami has a population of nearly 400,000.

Even Wikipedia has offered this info:

On January 5, 2015, the Los Angeles Times reported that Stan Kroenke and Stockbridge Capital Group are partnering up in developing a new NFL stadium on the Inglewood property owned by Kroenke. The project will include a stadium of 80,000 seats and a performance venue of 6,000 seats while reconfiguring the previously approved Hollywood Park plan for up to 890,000 square feet of retail, 780,000 square feet of office space, 2,500 new residential units, a 300-room hotel and 25 acres of public parks, playgrounds, open space and pedestrian and bicycle access. The stadium would likely be ready by 2018.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Los_Angeles_Rams

St. Louis has a population of nearly 300,000. It's small potatoes. Everybody knows the big bucks go to the big cities.

 

stands up and gives standing ovation.thank you,well said,could not have said it better myself. yeah taking someone here to school is something i have done an excellent job of I have to admit.If that sounds arrogant so be it,just stating the facts.lol

ahh it looks like I am not the only one interested in this topic after all as i thought. well said thank you.

yeah for some reason someone here desperately doesnt want to see the Rams leave and badly wants them to stay in st louis which is very weird because as i just got done showing,its funny how even one of the other posters here who lives in st louis and wants the Rams to stay,that even HE has accepted it that they are as good as gone.

Lets see,the NFL has met recently the last few months to talk about bringing a team to LA next year,something they have NEVER done before in the past, Kroneke can legally move the team if he wants to,does not need the 9 votes by the owners as the LAMESTREAM media reports,"the voting is all just a formality,dont believe the headlines," the owners all love the Inglewood site and thats why Kronke will get the nod over the carson project which is just a hoax.Its just for leverage by the chargers and raiders for new stadiums in their cities.

you have all these media people like al michales,terry bradshaw,howie long,dan dierdorf, all saying the Rams will be in LA next year and that the chargers might join them a few years down the road as well as the city of inglewood on public record saying they are building an NFL stadium there set to open for the 2018 season.

oh let me guess.Kronke is building the stadium for the chargers and raiders to move into since carson is a hoax i guess someone here believes.

reality is something something here someone obviously cant deal with and doesnt want to have to face for some reason so I have moved on from him..

thanks for coming on here and contributing. well done.

anyone who says the Rams are staying next year has egg on their face.

As herkdriver said so well earlier,the Rams will play in the LA coliseum next year. The LA coliseum has told the NFL they will allow ONE TEAM to play there next year and have said the Raiders are not welcomed to use it.the city of LA does not want the Raiders back. That just leaves the Rams and Chargers. Well the athletic director of the LA coliseum is former LA Rams quarterback pat haden so gee,I wonder who they choose between the two? lol

the Chargers MIGHT join them in a couple of years.I doubt it though.I think the NFL is going to want to see how it plays out with one team there for a while first for several years before bringing in another team.the NFL has never brought two teams into the same market at one time.i dont see that happening next year either.just one.the Rams.

the ONLY way the Rams dont come back to LA next year is this turns out to be the greatest hoax in sports history with all these media personalitys AS WELL AS THE CITY OF INGLEWOOD participating in this hoax.somehow i seriously doubt that is the case?

unless the city of Inglewood comes out and says -we are NOT building a stadium in LA in the next few weeks,ten the Rams are a done deal back to LA next year the fact they are set to begin construction on it this december.hee hee.that hasnt happened yet and i seriously dont see them coming out and saying that in the next few weeks either.hee hee.comedy gold.

 

Looking gloom and doom there in dogpatch USA.

.@LATimesFarmer: "Several owners and executives not connected with the Rams find the St. Louis plan lacking and were unconvinced last week by backers of that proposal. Some have pointed to the better deal the Minnesota Vikings got — with the public footing half the cost of a new stadium — from a bigger market. Some owners perked up at San Diego's pitch, but there remains significant skepticism about whether that deal could come to fruition."

http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-la-stadiums-20151120-story.html

Its a pipe dream the Rams will stay in st loius.they are millions in debt trying to pay off the CURRENT stadium so they can hardly afford to pay for a NEW one. anyone who thinks the Rams are staying is an idiot.

everyone outside of st louis knows they are as good as gone,even some in st louis have accepted that as evidenced by one of the posters on here that posted.lol

 

just came across this a few minutes ago.watch this short four minute video.so much for the delusions and fantasys one person here has that the Rams will stay in st louis. Im REALLY giving a first class education to one particular person here.

http://kplr11.com/2015/10/11/can-the-nfl-stop-kroenke-from-moving-the-rams-to-la/

With all of the rhetoric on facebook and Twitter these days, I feel like the following interview should be posted DAILY to remind us us what's really likely to happen here. This attorney, a St. Louis resident, recalls that in '94 a vote was taken to move the Rams to StL but it did not pass. Then the team owner and the Attorney General of Missouri (Nixon) threatened to sue the NFL, and, magically, a second vote was taken which was overwhelmingly in favor of a Rams' relocation. He then goes on to state thet the same thing will probably occur this time around. It's a shame we've had to wait this long, but we have an owner who wants to bring our team back to us and who also has every legality on his side. If the NFL, as a league, actually has the ability to both reason and learn from the past, it will step out of the way and let the inevitable happen. ‪#‎larams‬

well said,very nice speech.

 

Oh lay off with your delusional posting and name calling style. The Rams don't leave St.Louis unless the owners vote them permission, one owner doesn't control the vote and the league commish has a personal and vested interest in the style and type of NFL caliber stadium he wants ALL teams to play in - and the LA Coliseum doesn't fit the bill even as a temp. You ARE the only one interested in all of this foolishness - and the Rams never interested me when I lived in Los Angeles. Dodger fan; Buffalo Bills fan; University of Miami fan. Southern Cal fan - that's it. Rest of you stuff is B O R I N G. As I posted, until ground construction is broken, all the contracts, all the promises and all the predictions in the world are worthless. Los Angeles has proven it doesn't need NFL football for 20-years. One correction, the Miami Dolphins have a very, very mediocre fan base in South Florida - fair weather crowd - only UM football is important here..............

 

so now that its been established the Rams are as good as gone to LA next year,the only question remains will the chargers join them in a couple of years. sure would hate to see the chargers leave san diego because its such a beautiful city but that is a strong possibility because the NFL is pushing for TWO teams.USC is the only facility that has told the NFL they can use their facility and they have already said the raiders are not welcomed to use it-"their image promotes gang violance." is why, so its a given it will be the Rams they choose over the chargers since kroneke is the one funding the stadium,they have said only ONE team will be allowed to play there while waiting for the new stadium.

the NFL will then tell spanos to work it out with kroneke to come in as a tenant a couple years down the road when the stadium is ready and share the stadium or go back to san diego and accept the cities downtown proposal for a new stadium. my guess is spanos in the end will go back to SD and stay there since the chargers will flop in LA if they come there,LA has huge loyal fanbase of Rams there and a limited fanbase of Raiders as well but no chargers fanbase as I said earlier. Also unlike with st louis,san diego is too valuable a market for the NFL to lose so I dont see them allowing the chargers to leave.

thats what makes the Rams situation unique and why they can leave is the Rams honored the terms of the lease agreement with the city of Saint louis but the city did not.the chargers is completely different though.the chargers have not made any attempts to try and get something done in san diego where the city of SD has negotiated faithfully with the chargers to try and get something done.

the situations of the two teams and two cities are vastly different,just the opposite.

this is why the chargers would flop if they came to LA.the LA TIMES did a poll of NFL fans who they would want to see the most between those three teams.
these were the results.
1.Rams first with 60% of the votes.
2.Raiders second with 35%.
3.Chargers a mere 5%,

and as i proved earlier,nobody in LA even cared the year the Raiders won the superbowl out there,they only have a limited fanbase and even they did not do so well out there in LA. so think how bad the chargers would do.

if the NFL has any brains,they will give up this asinine two team idea and just bring in the Rams,that is the only way NFL football will work in LA is if it is the Rams only.

 

and now time for some more home town schooling of one person here.hee hee.

these two LA Ram fans in LA below matter of fact put this to rest that what i said way back in february that Carson is indeed a hoax.a fantasy.

these are THEIR words,not mine.

Lol just got done listing to the interview with my Inglewood Mayor and if it hasn't been clear to fans of all 3 teams in the battle of Los Angeles let me put it to rest. Rams are coming back home period. He made very good and educated points on the "CARSON PROJECT " and how the Inglewood stadium and entertainment project is ready to begin building. Meaning everything is ready even the digging is done. I live rite across the street from the site and i see whats going on every day...i also see all the building material and equipment. Big ass plumbing pipes,metal and steel i never seen before and the site developers are out the around the clock. I even seen Stan and Mayor butts talkin with the head developer and construction workers. No activities like this in Carson at all.



Billy Scott - I live one block away from the site and this stadium is going to happen no matter what.


Like that first above poster just proved,it has been put to rest the Rams are going back to LA next year.

 

Couldn't agree with you more. BTW the Rams are like the Vikings --- helmet-wise at least --- in that their helmet has a first person point of view instead of a third person POV. You can't beat that in a football team. It means they have style!

 

You really are overly obsessed with this, like trying to kill a fly with an elephant gun, this is not an important discussion - well - it appears you are having a discussion simply to convince yourself actually. Your posting style reads like that of a 13-year old. Just forget all the "experts" and claims of "done-deal" and post if and when ground is broken in Inglewood for a new stadium. Never mind the shopping mall's and Wal Mart's plans, etc. Los Angeles has been saying this for decades and still doesn't have a team, and the NFL has never considered granting them an expansion franchise because they would have to play in the Coliseum.

They passed on Los Angeles in favor of St.Louis; Phoenix; Baltimore; Houston; Nashville; Cleveland, and let the Rams and Raiders walk. Those are not exactly mega-media capitals like LA, so what is causing the owner's to keep passing on the Southern California market? NO NFL CALIBER STADIUM........so rest your jaws fellow and come back and post when they break ground for a stadium. You haven't schooled anybody - no NFL team is committed to LA - not yet - and we all know why. December is in four days, you wrote construction starts in December - let us know when that happens - until that time, everything you post is speculation. I really have no interest in the topic being a Buffalo fan living in Dolphin territory, but do know the Cowboys have, and probably still are Los Angeles' fans favorite team. Why you don't understand the league's actions for 20-some years is mysterious to me. Have a nice holiday...........Stan