Are religions that preach inequality for women and gays, traitors to their country?

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  1. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    All flagrant liars.

    Cash is usually the penalties for fraud, but some cases deserve jail, depending on the lie or con game.

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    DL
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    so are the atheists, even scrotomus maximus recognizes that fact, unless you are the guv, then you get a get out of jail free card
     
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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Fraud is fraud regardless of who does it.

    You seem to dislike atheists and other realists. Why?

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    DL
     
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    There is nothing 'real' about an atheist!
    Get real!
    The atheist religion is no different than deity based religion, and are far from realists since they have no proof G/god does not exist, than deity based religions do that G/god does exist.

    So using your own design that makes you a liar several times over since you constantly claim deity based religions are a fantasy, with no supporting evidence that G/god does not exist.
    Thats an excellent question.

    First time stated its incorrect, sufficient evidence to prove the contrary and stated again, then its a lie if stated again with no substantive counter argument, its the way all 'legitimate' unbiased courts work. Being wrong is not a lie.

    So we have a situation where atheists are jumping around, at least certain atheists are jumping around, screaming the believers in a deity are liars with no basis in fact to prove the claim, and these same atheists 'know' they cannot prove no G/god exists, with that knowledge, since they know they have no proof of claim, they in 'fact' are the liars. They are just having a little orwellian fun :)
     
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    as know, from dozens of threads you've started on this topic, atheism is by definition, not a religion.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can expect whatever you want. Before we go any further- do you think people who (you believe) lie should be punished via the authority of the state?
     
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    What would be an example of a 'religious lie' (that warrants punishment) and an example of a 'religious beleif' that isn't a lie and does not warrant punishment? I'm trying to get an objective understanding of where you think the line should be drawn...
     
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    baloney, there is no definition that says atheism is not a religion. that is all in your imagination.
     
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    I believe they should behave like adults and stop all their lying nonsense just because they can't have their way.
    You claim government is to big.....why do you think we have so much government in the first place??
    Because a certain percentage of people can't be left alone without adult supervision.
    And to make matters worse....you want to let them all have assault rifles.
    Do have a death wish or something? Do you hate this country so much that you can't wait to see it destroy itself?
     
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    The definition of atheism says it isn’t a religion, as you’ve been shown.
     
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    I'll answer yours after you stop avoiding mine... I'll even make it a simple yes or no for you. Do you think 'liars' should be subject to punishment via the authority of the state?
     
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    baloney, it says no such thing, that is all in your imagination as has been proven to you by several people.
    isnt it obvious?
    atheists are unrealists as you can see.
    so whats their punishment?
     
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  13. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    Remember, when Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, they became Gods themselves, knowing the difference between good and evil. Therefore, every time a person makes a value judgment he becomes his own God. The biblical fairytale says that people are to give up that power and to follow whatever the God, chief priest, emperor, king, or family father commands you to do without whining. That includes actions that you find reprehensible per your own values. Recall how God got ticked off at Saul when Saul showed a smidgen of mercy based on his own values.
     
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    Your gun rights are governed by your State constitution. Read it sometime.
     
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    As you know, because I’ve repeatedly shown you, atheism by definition is not a religion. The same exact way not playing baseball is not a sport.
     
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    Each state is free to ignore the constitution!

    Right??
     
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    Funny you think allegiance should be based upon who can protect you. Very paternalistic.
     
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    You have that backwards.

    We believe in the rule of law. That's who we are.

    We do NOT believe in the law of the jungle.
     
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    According to James 1:27 (CEV) pure religion consists of helping needy orphans and widows and not letting the world make you evil. Therefore, if atheists comply with that dictate maybe they should be considered to be religious.

    Do you help needy orphans and widows and keep the world from making you evil?
     
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    Each State has its own Constitution, which can grant its citizens more rights than the Federal Constitution does but it can't grant fewer rights.

    For instance, the New Hampshire Constitution allows for armed rebellion =
    Article 10
    Text of Article 10:
    Right of Revolution

    Government being instituted for the common benefit, protection, and security, of the whole community, and not for the private interest or emolument of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, whenever the ends of government are perverted, and public liberty manifestly endangered, and all other means of redress are ineffectual, the people may, and of right ought to reform the old, or establish a new government. The doctrine of nonresistance against arbitrary power, and oppression, is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind.
    https://ballotpedia.org/Part_First,_New_Hampshire_Constitution

    The California Constitution allows illegal aliens to own property in the State.
    Section 20
    Text of Section 20:
    Noncitizens have the same property rights as citizens.
    https://ballotpedia.org/Article_I,_California_Constitution

    Neither one of those things are specified in the Federal Constitution.
     
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    Definitely...no doubt about it....that is my opinion....
    Lies are dangerous. People die needlessly because of lies and rumors.
    If someone's lies cause death and destruction...they should be prosecuted.

    Now answer my question....why do think it's okay for everyone to walk around the streets with
    assault weapons?
     
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    Exactly!!!
    I doubt the idea of "freedom of speech" was intended to include constant and deliberate liars.
    If they want to act like children...then they require adult supervision.
    Get them mental heath treatment or put them in jail until they agree to get help.
     
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    really?
    yep we just love law dont we?
    Yes great efforts are made in the US to obey the law.

    • A Game as Old as Empire: the World of Economic Hit Men and the Web of Global Corruption (2007);
    • The History of the American Empire: The Truth About Economic Hit Men, Jackals, and How to Change the World (2007);[14]
    • Hoodwinked: An Economic Hit Man Reveals Why the World Financial Markets Imploded – and What We Need to Do to Remake Them (2009);[15] and
    • The New Confessions of an Economic Hit Man (2016).[16][17]
    The epilogue to the 2006 edition provides a rebuttal to the current move by the G8 nations to forgive Third-World debt. Perkins charges that the proposed conditions for this debt forgiveness require countries to privatise their health, education, electric, water and other public services. Those countries would also have to discontinue subsidies and trade restrictions that support local business, but accept the continued subsidization of certain G8 businesses by the US and other G8 countries, and the erection of trade barriers on imports that threaten G8 industries

    the only law around here is banking law, wake up
    you live in your own little legal fantasy land
     
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    freedom of speech extends only as far as injury and damages, lies notwithstanding unless you can prove injury or damages. Then of course if you are a politician you are required to lie as part of the job description.
     
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    how about the public getting a little smarter and learn how to make the necessary sacrifices to set this country on a more honest course?
     

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