Are some US and British media outlets biased on Israel & Paelstine?

Since the article I cited(1) is almost 6 years old and I try to be objective, I'll take your word for it and give the NY Times another look.

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Yes, I do agree that the NY Times as well as most US MSM has a liberal bias.



(1)“Journalists blast NY Times for pro-Israel bias and “grotesque” distortion of illegal occupation of Palestine”

http://www.salon.com/2016/05/26/journalists_blast_ny_times_for_grotesque_pro_israel_bias_and_distortion_of_illegal_occupation_of_palestine/

 

You are aware that under International Law, Israel is required to remain the Occupier of the West Bank and Gaza until a final status treaty is signed with Jordan, or the Palestinians. Thats the law.

 

No.
I am saying what I said.
Not what you said I said.

 

In which century?

 

The 21st Century. Unless you believe the 1907 Hague Treaty and the 4th Geneva Conventions no longer matter.

 

So another international law is ignored.
OK.

 

Which international law is being ignored? Israel is obligated to continue the occupation until they sign a final peace treaty with the Palestinians

 

Of course there are all sorts of rules for the occupying power that must be followed, and Israel is violating a lot of those rules, but they are still obligated to be the occupier.

 

Sez you.

 

prove it. Provide evidence that he holds an Israeli passport or is an Israeli citizen.

MANY American Jews who worked under Bush's admin have been baselessly and falsely accused of being Israeli citizens. Its a modern day Scarlett Letter.

It basically suggests that ANY and all Jews, are crypto-Israelis, secretly hiding their true identity and allegiance. Its hateful bullshit.

 

15 years ago I read it in too many places, including Michael Ruppert's fine book Crossing The Rubicon. You don't know and don't want to know what aviation business interests Zakheim had in those days. You don't know and don't want to know that one of the two dozen Boeings converted by Zakheim's Israeli company into the tanker configuration for USAF as a replacement for the KC-10 was likely the aircraft that struck the South Tower, but let's not go too far off topic.

If you don't understand the control AIPAC and Tel Aviv have over the federal government, you don't want to understand.

 

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what I do know, is YOU and others have failed to provide ANY evidence that Zakheim and other Bush admin Jews, are actually Israeli citizens.

go ahead, prove me wrong.

its your claim, you have the burden of proof.

 

Nothing can be proved to a human in denial of facts.

 

so do you have any evidence for your claims, or not?

got a link to an article where some evidence is provided?

NO? then the claim is baseless crap.

 

You wish it were baseless crap.

 

Do you have any evidence...or not?

 

None you would believe Ronstar. I say again, a human in denial is impossible to deal with.

 

I am willing to look at any evidence you have that Zackheim or any other Bush Admin Jews, were in fact Israeli citizens.

 

I doubt they were, but does it really matter, if they were in Israel's pocket and doing it's bidding? That seems to be the important claim (true or false).

 

The "article" that you cited? Singular? Are you sure that you don't mean the plural, articles? You've posted many, and I'm pretty certain that they are ALL from 2016 or before. One from 2014 I believe.

Are you suggesting that a pro-Israel bias is consistent with a liberal bias?

 

You're right, I have posted several articles but I believe I only posted one about the bias of the NY Times. As I mentioned, I'll give it another chance.

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No, generally, news outlets that are considered liberal do not have a pro Israel bias in my opinion.

 

What about that time that the New York Times made it look like Israeli soldiers were attacking Palestinians? @Pisa, I think that you mentioned this earlier in the thread.

 

That would be a very rare instance of honesty for the NY Times when it comes to Mid East reporting.

I've found that even some Israeli news outlets are more truthful about IDF brutality than American news sources who either ignore instances of IDF atrocities or bury them somewhere obscure.
For example:

"The Israel Massacre Forces"
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-the-israel-massacre-forces-1.5962852

EXCERPT "The shooting on the Gaza border shows once again that the killing of Palestinians is accepted in Israel more lightly than the killing of mosquitoes"CONTINUED

Can you imagine any major American news source printing such a story?

I may have mentioned that I spent 10 - 11 months walking and hitch-hiking throughout the Islamic Middle East.

During that period, I spent plenty of time in or around Palestinian Refugee camps where victims of of Zionist brutality showed me wounds from IDF torture, tattered, old photos of their former homes and farms and told me horrific stories of murdered family members and stolen homes.

I don't see why their heavily censored stories should be regarded as any less valid than the glut of Holocaust stories that saturate MSM almost daily.

Just as heavily censored is the truth about the Nakba in which Zionist terrorists bayonetted pregnant women in the abdomen (1) and other atrocities that equal or exceed anything done during WW 2.

(1) “Israeli Massacre Of Deir Yassin”
https://www.countercurrents.org/akleh150413.htm

EXCERPT “A process of cleaning up the village was, then, conducted by the terrorist groups which included the rape of some women, the cold murder of many Palestinians, and the blowing up of homes. Men and women were lined up against the walls in the main street and executed in cold blood. Members of whole families were murdered in their homes even after surrendering. Girls and women were raped and then murdered. The Zionist terrorists had bayoneted the wombs of Pregnant women and crushed the heads and bodies of dozens of children and babies. This cleanup process continued through the next two days, Saturday and Sunday, and demonstrated the savagery of the Zionist Jewish terrorists.” CONTINUED

 

Both sides committed bloody massacres during the 1948 war. No side is innocent.

Another fun fact: Jordan signed a mutual defense treaty with Syria and Egypt just days before the 1967 War began. Israel urged Jordan not to get involved, and they would not engage them. Jordan then insisted "the die had been cast" and shelled West Jerusalem. So, Israel responded and easily defeated the Jordanian forces. Had Jordan not chose to get involved, they would still rule the West Bank today.

The Arabs have made some very stupid choices over the last 70 years.

 

Israel is our ally; Palestine is not, right?