Are we headed for war with Iran?

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is war with Iran nearly inevitable?

  1. It seems like that is where we are headed

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  2. Probably not. I think this is all a negotiating ploy

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  3. I think it is a negotiating ploy, but fear some miscalculation with unplanned consequences

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  1. ARDY

    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It seems to me that trump wants to confront iran.
    And I think Trump may be looking for a country to make an example of.
    And I think that Netanyahu has Trump’s ear; and that Netanyahu insistently wants Iran to be crippled.

    It also seems that Iran, as a point of national pride, is not willing to be seen to be intimidated by Trump (and Israel)

    For these reasons, it almost seems that war with Iran is near inevitable.... although that seems to me like an absurdly irrational idea.

    What do you think?
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    No. Its a dare, and Trump is alerting everyone ahead of time if Iran tries something.
     
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    Iran has been a rogue nation ruled by a murderous, tyrannical pack of Islamo-Nazi 'priests' ever since 1979. They have repeatedly threatened their neighbors, repeatedly engaged in outright acts of warfare and aggression, repeatedly threatened the very right of Israel even to EXIST, and, they've killed or badly wounded large numbers of Americans ever since they staged their uncivilized, lawless invasion of our American Embassy decades ago, kidnapping our people, and subjecting them to sadistic cruelty.

    Then Iran leveraged a fraudulent "agreement" with the unbelievably STOOPID Obama regime to prevent nuclear weapons, but which forbade inspection of any place in Iran that the Iranians UNILATERALLY declared to be a "military zone". Who but a bunch of mindless Democrat morons could possibly be half-witted enough to put any faith at all in such a scam -- even while the Iranians themselves were laughing and jeering at us after this thing was signed?!

    Now we have discovered another Iranian scheme of an alarming nature and on a scale that has convinced our president we must take immediate crisis-prevention measures, including naval battle-groups and strategic bomber squadrons. We're taking all non-essential personnel out of our enormous Embassy in Baghdad, Iraq because of this Iranian undertaking.

    So now, if the Iranians light a 'powder keg' that ends up at their own feet, then SO BE IT! These dangerous, cruel, dictatorial, religious fanatics have been begging for it for decades! So, if they pull any crap at all, let's give it to them in a way that no one in the Middle East will EVER forget....

    Hint: we don't need to use nuclear weapons to deal with this Iranian threat. Conventional THERMOBARIC BOMBS will do the necessary job very thoroughly, and very well. All the destruction, with none of the radioactivity!

    [​IMG]. Today, they come in nearly ALL sizes.... :twisted:
     
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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hi Ardy,

    I doubt there will be a war with Iran - strongly doubt it.
     
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    Yes. I definitely think they are trying to stage a false flag or a provocation to start that war as we speak.

    Sending American forces in the region with no specific mission fits that purpose far too well.

    Iran has WMD guys, totally real news this time.
     
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  6. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    What so many fail to see is that Iran has been a "provocation" since 1979! Its insanely dangerous, Islamo-terrorist government has committed every kind of crime imaginable for forty years, and now, thanks to the inept bumbling of the Obama regime, it is even closer to having thermonuclear hydrogen bombs as well as the missiles to deliver them with.

    Question: when is the best time to treat a person for cancer -- when it is first detected, or after cancer has spread throughout the entire body?

    [​IMG]. The 'surgical team' has arrived....
     
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    I fail to see how the fact that jihadists took hostages in the US embassy 40 years ago is a valid justification for declaring war on a sovereign country, killing tens of thousands on a "preemptive strike" for supposed WMD for which no proof exists (just like the fiasco in Iraq).

    The Iran issue clearly shows that right-wing globalism is just as dangerous as left-wing globalism.
     
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  8. ARDY

    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are different opinions

    “The likelihood of such an opening appears slim. But Trump has raised concern with the heightened rhetoric, believing a large-scale military intervention with Iran would be devastating to him politically, people familiar with the situation said. The President has told members of his team that starting a new conflict would amount to breaking his campaign promise to wind down foreign entanglements. And he's chafed at suggestions his aides, led by national security adviser John Bolton, are somehow leading him to war.”​
     
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    Interesting how the US waited until Iran cleared out ISIS first... so are they more or less dangerous than ISIS... because I don't recall nearly as much enthusiasm to tackle ISIS as some have for bombing Iran.

    Iran poses a threat to the US resources monopoly, not to the American people. But then the US resources monopoly have always been a threat to Iran, how dare they oppose them.
     
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    Provide link to IAEA which says Iran has broken its rules re nuke development.
     
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    Your proof from the IAEA, please.
     
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    Ha! I wouldn't trust the IAEA as far as I could spit in a 100 mile per hour headwind, but, my assumption is quite reasonable -- given that the idiot Obama regime signed an agreement which allowed the Iranians to FORBID any inspections at all on any site that they unilaterally declare to be a "military" site.

    Then, a week after the big, hooptie 'signing ceremony', they laughed at the idiot-clown team of Obama/Kerry and said that they weren't going to allow any in-depth inspections anyway. They gave Obama (and the rest of us) the middle-finger and nobody said a word. You may have read that nobody said anything about the Nazis, either -- until they invaded Poland after lying to everyone and laughing at everybody!

    Tell us, Mr. "Truth" -- how many full-fledged inspections of ALL Iranian nuclear sites have actually taken place -- and -- been deemed "clean" since that so-called "agreement" was signed...? Do you even care if a bunch of insane, murderous religious-fanatics mount thermonuclear hydrogen bombs on ICBM's? Having read a LOT of your posts before, I would imagine that you couldn't care less....
     
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    When you find you have a nest of rattlesnakes in a den in your backyard, Ardy, you get a big can of kerosene, pour it in the holes the snakes slither in and out of, stand guard over them with shotguns, and throw in a match. Any 'escapees' get the buckshot instead of a roasting. END OF PROBLEM. That is what we SHOULD have done about Iran decades ago, after they invaded our embassy. If Trump gets "a can of kerosene" now it won't break my heart at all!

    Or, should we wait until the insane, violent Islamo-Nazi priesthood that rules Iran mounts thermonuclear hydrogen bombs on ICBM's and threatens all of us "infidels" who won't convert to the Muslim religion...? If you really don't "get" it, you may find it useful to pore through this: http://166.62.117.116/pages/quran/violence.aspx

    Hint: lesson from history. The best time to have STOPPED Hitler was BEFORE he invaded Poland....
     
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    Go the IAEA site and see for yourself how it acknowledges Iran as complying with their dictates. You wouldn't trust them? I wouldn't trust any idiot Republican pol in Washington DC. Because of your pals treason we got Iraq and Afghanistan. Want another war, fight it yourself. Send me a picture postcard when you get there.
     
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    Once Iran has nukes they will get Israel and/or Saudi Arabia.

    It's part of the religion.
     
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    Sounds like someone can't understand irony. Or can't read, I don't know.
     
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    thank you for showing you cannot prove your claim against Iran
     
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    Okay, so you can't read. This is embarrassing...
     
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    Lets hope not
     
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    I don't think we will go to war with Iran unless they shoot first.

    If we do go to war with Iran i have two primary concerns.

    1. The saftey of our troops, sailors and airmen.

    2. The war raising gas prices which will cause severe economic conditions for Americans.

    I care about the Iranian people but once shooting starts i am vastly more concerned about Americans.

    I'd be opposed to any American preemptive actions.
     
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    I don't think we will go to war with Iran unless they shoot first.

    If we do go to war with Iran i have two primary concerns.

    1. The saftey of our troops, sailors and airmen.

    2. The war raising gas prices which will cause severe economic conditions for Americans.

    I care about the Iranian people but once shooting starts i am vastly more concerned about Americans.

    I'd be opposed to any American preemptive actions.
     
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    ...or well-executed propaganda makes you think they did.
     
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    ANOTHER WAR FOR ISRAEL

    We've got the same bellicose rhetoric and the same hyperbolic lies about the same phony "Islamo-Nazi-Terrorist" threat that America does not face from the same Islamophobes & war mongering "Israel Firsters" who drove us into the last disastrous war.

    "All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting."
    ~George Orwell

    Why won't Americans learn:

    "Israel is pushing the US into war against Iran"
    http://between-the-lines-ludwig-wat...03/israel-is-pushing-us-into-war-against.html

    "Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Leads US President Trump to War with Iran"
    https://www.unz.com/jpetras/israeli...hu-leads-us-president-trump-to-war-with-iran/

    "America Cannot Go to War for Israel"
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ahmed-moor/america-cannot-go-to-war-_b_682467.html

    "Lobbyist Says Israel Should Create A 'False Flag' To Start A War With Iran"
    https://www.businessinsider.com/top...-with-iran-sink-sub-illicit-false-flag-2012-9


    "Netanyahu Is Meeting Trump To Push For War With Iran"
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/netanyahu-trump-war-with-iran_us_59bfc6e6e4b086432b089840

    "Neocon Pundit: The Israel Lobby Wants War With Iran"
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/neocon-pundit-the-israel-lobby-wants-war-with-iran

    "Netanyahu & the Lobby Cowboy Up For War With Iran"
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mj-rosenberg/netanyahu-the-lobby-cowbo_b_3611038.html
     
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    We need to protect Israel. And do whatever they want.
     
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    We needed to get rid of Iran years ago. If Trump wants to do it now that's fine with me no matter what the reason is. They are a clear and present danger in the ME and have been ever since the Islam fanatics took over.
     
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