Armed Patient Takes Out 'Active Shooter' At Tennessee Dental Office

Are taking the giant step and saying that someone who never gets is a car is less likely to be killed in a automobile accident?

 

So is getting on a plane, driving a car, or juggling chainsaws. This is not the place, but I am sure you have been schooled on the value of everyday citizens carrying a gun for self defense. If not, toddle on over to the Gun discussion forum for a lesson or two. Sorry you are afraid of firearms.

 

TDS

 

Interesting.
-For every gun used to commit murder, >10.8 are used in self-defense
-For every gun used to commit suicide, >4.4 are used in self defense.
-For every gun involved in an accidental death, >195.6 guns are used in self-defense.
People die from use of a gun; many more people are saved from the use of a gun.
There is nothing in my mind to argue about

 

Not quite that simple. https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/here-are-8-stubborn-facts-gun-violence-america

And I post this as someone who had a family member survive a gun suicide attempt. I asked her if she blamed the gun, she did not, and said she had a whole list of other suicide methods planned out in her mind. Thankfully she is much better now.

 

Or, just stating obvious facts.

 

Heritage is just a shill for the NRA Culture of Death agenda.

 

What facts in the link weren't true? You hate the 2A so much, pass a constitutional amendment to get rid of it.

 

You're wasting your time.
Click report, type in "rule 5", repeat as necessary.

 

How?
Trump can't even build a wall, how do you change something as devisive as the 2A?
Maybe it's time for a referendum, let's see how much support there really is for the 2A as it currently stands.

 

I own a gun- why are you arguing with me? How often are crimes committed with a gun that a person is shot but not killed. I mean you can run away from a knife attack or a baseball bat, you can't run away from a gun. If no one had guns but the cops- gun crime will be reduced. The only reason criminals have guns is that they stole them from honest people or most likely they purchased them stolen. It is our right for honest people to own guns but to say they don't cause more problems than they solve is wrong. Us gun owners demand that the population recognize our right to own guns, but we should not ask them to ignore that the amount of guns in this country creates more problems for the rest of them that do not have guns or want guns.

 

So you're getting rid of your gun?

Blaming the NRA for gun violence is like blaming AAA for drunk driving.

Having a gun is like having insurance or a seatbelt, you hope you never need them, but if you do and don't have one, it can dramatically change your life for the worse.

 

Looks like you've got one in five on your side: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...national-survey-finds/?utm_term=.c48029bc8524

Even Bill Clinton acknowledged gun control wiped out his party, and I'd say the same for Obama.

 

Referendum?
Where does the constitution allow for that?

 

No, why would I? I just don't pretend that more guns don't equal more gun violence. I have a right to my gun. And people have the right to criticize my gun ownership. And what does the NRA have to do with anything I posted.

 

1993- present, the number of guns increased by tens of millions while gun-related violence dropped 55%.
More guns does not equal more gun violence.

 

I never said repeal. I said support as it currently stands.
From your article...

 

This will require an amendment, which only needs 13 states in opposition to stop.
Good luck.

 

Not really, many restrictions and regulations are currently in force without having had to repeal or amend the 2A.
Better regulation can be inacted and certain kinds of weapon can be banned or heavily restricted without removing your right to bear arms.

 

"Forty-six percent said they favored modifying the Second Amendment"
That requires an amendment.

 

If nothing is done to curb the epidemic of gun violence then I think there will eventually be enough support both in public opinion and congress to ammend or even abolish the 2A.
After all, there are only a tiny handful of nations who consider gun ownership a right and not a privilege and most of the developed nations in the world have much lower homicide rates.
Fighting every single new regulation on grounds of ''freedom and rights'' is not a long term winning strategy. Accepting reasonable restrictions now is better for you than waiting until the required majorities are available. David Hogg's generation is not going to be on your side.

 

Gun violence fell 55% 1993-present. Your "epidemic" does not exist.
And, until you amend/repeal the 2nd, you don't get to ignore it.

Ours does. Nothing else matters.

The restrictions you want are based on fallacious appeals to emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty, and will do nothing to reduce the level of gun-related violence in the US -- thus, none of the restrictions you want are reasonable; further, you won't stop trying to add "reasonable restrictions" until you make it impossible for the law abiding exercise their rights.
Given the above, there's no reason to give an inch.

 

"Reasonable restrictions" replaced "common sense regulations"? Its pretty much a guarantee that when those phrases are used, nothing they mention will be reasonable or common sense .

 

I agree with background checks, but lets not pretend they prevent dangerous people from getting a gun. I life in Los Angeles and sadly, law abiding citizens are not allowed to protect themselves. Only politicians, judges, and gang members carry guns.