Army officer twice reported concerns about Trump's Ukraine tactics

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the highest-ranking Ukraine expert on the National Security Council, twice raised objections to his superiors about how Trump and his administration were interacting with Ukraine out of a "sense of duty," the statement says.

"I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government's support of Ukraine," Vindman says in his statement. "I realized that if Ukraine pursued an investigation into the Bidens and Burisma it would likely be interpreted as a partisan play which would undoubtedly result in Ukraine losing the bipartisan support it has thus far maintained."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehil...ted-concerns-about-trumps-ukraine-tactics?amp

dudes got a hell of a backstory. Family fled communism, combat vet injured by an IED in Iraq, on the national security counsel....
Gonna be hard to attack this guy as some Soros affiliated deep State agent lol
Not that I don’t expect many to try.

 

Can he testify to Trump having taken illegal actions?

That is the only question that matters

 

He was in on the call. Heard it first hand. This is going to be huge. Good luck throwing a Lt. Col combat veteran from your own Security Council under the bus, Trump.

Devastating.

 

Can he testify about Trump having done something illegal? Not something that "seemed inappropriate " of whatever his exact wording was.
Inappropriate is not illegal.

You didn't answer the question..

 

Cry Baby Donny is screwed. He has no rational defense against the multiple testimonies by unimpeachable, expert witnesses to his abuse of power.

He perverted US foreign policy in an attempt to extort a personal "favor" from a foreign power to smear a political opponent.

 

"Sondland "started to speak about Ukraine delivering specific investigations in order to secure the meeting with the President, at which time Ambassador Bolton cut the meeting short," Vindman will tell lawmakers."
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/arm...6599523&cid=clicksource_4380645_null_hero_hed

Oh really, Bolton?

 

Yes, but it won’t stop trumpeters from claiming it’s actually legal.

 

I think he will testify that the call was absolutely perfect....Right?

 

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the National Security Council staffer set to deliver dramatic testimony confirming that President Donald Trump sought dirt on a political rival from Ukraine, is a Jewish refugee from that country when it was part of the Soviet Union.

He earned a purple heart when he was wounded in Iraq.

Lowlife Trump bum kissers at Fox are suggesting the patriot may be guilty of espionage for spilling the beans on Fake Don.

Fox News host Laura Ingraham and former U.S. Deputy Attorney General John Yoo were questioning Vindman's loyalty. ... a clip from Ingraham's show in which Yoo — himself an immigrant — suggests Vindman might be a spy.

... Jeremy Bash, a top Pentagon and CIA official: "I think they're alleging that a U.S. Army colonel is a traitor."

https://theweek.com/speedreads/874943/fox-news-already-attacking-lt-col-alexander-vindman-next-house-impeachment-witness-msnbc-notes​

 

What's illegal about it?

As far as anyone knows it had nothing to do with 2020 and therefore wasn't about the presidents personal gain.

If they can prove he recieved personal gain from the Ukrainians. Then fine impeach away. If they just think he did for their own political bias, that's not good enough.

 

I don't know what his testimony will be. I'll wait and see before making a judgment.

 

Lol as far as anyone knows. It’s call reasonable doubt for a reason.

 

This story doesn't fit the timeline either. As a military officer he has a to go up the ranks, but not outside of the rank structure regarding classified information.

So, with an active commission, he would have had to report his concerns to the Joint Chiefs adjutant and the information would have had to have been declassified before talking with Sondland. He apparently didn't do that because it was classified at the time of his alleged expression of concerns.
This will also be a worthless recant of an opinion based on his own perception of what policy should or should not be.

He can not elaborate beyond what is already known and may actually be cutting his own throat in regards to military code of conduct.

The bottom line is that this changes nothing.

 

This is to big of a shift in gears. They were going to impeach after Mueller and nothing and now suddenly they got something completely different and just as dumb. I'm like AOC. I'm over impeachment.

 

This whole Ukraine narrative is built entirely on subjective disagreement about what Trump should or should not have done.

As chief law enforcement officer of the country he has every legitimate right to request a cooperative effort to investigate corruption based on the US-Ukraine treaty.

The same applies with Italy and the UK. If probable cause exists in those situations too, Trump has every right to request a through look at any and all situations. AKA Misfud's blackberries and Obama's deal with Putin regarding the Koch Glitsch-Italia scandal.

 

There's your problem. As has been pointed ad nauseum, there is a world of difference with asking Ukraine to COOPERATE in an ongoing investigation vs. asking China/Ukraine to START an investigation. Of someone who just happens to be a political opponent. Which is what Trump did.

And you wonder why he's getting impeached? This Lt. Colonel is going to BURY Trump.

 

Starting wasn’t enough, he needed it announced publicly because it was all about hurting Biden as a candidate

 

Oh dear, lol. We were ALL in on the call now that the transcript of the call has been released and nobody besides a few anonymous internet conspiracy loving trolling idiots disputes its accuracy.

We were all in on that call and it was absolutely innocuous and exonerating for Trump regardless of how many Trump haters "had concerns". Another nothingburger from Schitt. Lol

 

That's it? Lol, no crimes, no misdemeanors, just one random guy's worries about "implications for Ukraine" ? I don't remember voting for him to conduct US foreign policy. Does anyone?

Poor Nancy, she has to go to her caucus and ask for impeachment vote because someone "had concerns" about Ukraine? Bwahaha the case continues to fall apart as we speak.

PS and we do think it's proper to demand that a foreign government investigate crimes and corruption involving Americans. I guess we have a difference of opinion with the colonel. Impeach! Lol

 

You couldn't be more wrong. American policy is that it is NOT proper for foreign governments to investigate crimes involving Americans. That is why America refused to join / support the International Criminal Court.

If an American law enforcement agency is investigating someone, it is perfectly proper to ask a foreign government to help gather evidence to support the investigation. That is what the treaty with Ukraine is for, but it is not what happened here.

In this case, Trump asked a foreign government to START an investigation that could hurt a political rival - he even identified him by name - who was NOT under investigation domestically. A bit like, "Hey, there's an American who did nothing wrong here, but I want you to see if you can find anything that he did wrong in your country." WTF. Most countries PROTECT their citizens from criminal investigations in foreign countries, if they did nothing wrong at home.

Any Senator who does not vote to remove him will be betraying their oath of office.

 

He listened to Trump's phone call.. Trump is all about his own ego and posturing.. and he's HORRIBLY ignorant..

He doesn't read and he doesn't listen to anyone at the WH or the Pentagon.

That's why he was talking BS yesterday in Chicago about TAKING Syrian oil.

Do you have any idea how stupid Trump is?

 

Nice. Don't vote for Trump then, vote him out. But while he is president it's his prerogative to establish his foreign policy and it's Trump's decision whether to ask a foreign government to investigate corruption and crimes involving American citizens, not colonel's.

This will be yet another testimony that will establish that no crimes were committed during the conversation. This time by the guy who actually was on the call and is absolutely trilingual (English Russian, Ukrainian) like me, except i know 2 more languages case closed.

 

And at the moment we are WAY beyond it.

The only people who believe he is guilty are the ones who hate him and have assumed his guilt. Which is unamerican.

 

The colonel speaks English, Ukrainian and Russian. You should have read his bio before assuming.

 

Do YOU speak English? What part of "is absolutely trilingual (English Russian, Ukrainian)" in my previous post caused confusion and uncertainty? Lol

Let me do it again, slowly and in big letters:

English, Russian, Ukrainian speaking colonel listening in on the phone call between Trump and Zelenksky finds no crimes and misdemeanors.