As an Australian whistle blower, you are ****** !!!

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  1. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Just came across this one:

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/melb...attle/ar-BB13wE9k?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=mailsignout

    We don't even need to talk about Julian Assange, but as an Australian whistle blower, no one cares about you. I find this rather strange, I think these people deserve the highest respect.
    But in our society things are different, John Howard's ill decision to join the Iraq war, where we helped to kill 1m Iraqis is one example. But many still love him.
    Can someone please explain?
    Thanks
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Whistleblowers everywhere are condemned, demonized and prosecuted, including Australia.

    Julian Assange is a hero to many, but not so much in Australia, the vassal state of the US.

    Here is a link to an excellent historical analysis by John Pilger on how the CIA took over Australia. I'm going to start a new thread about it.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/55170.htm
     
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    garry17 Well-Known Member

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    I must say, that Assange still very much in the news, yet he makes no mention from here in the forum. Is his political capital finished???

    Anyway, enough of a bait,

    I have often stated that Assange is an idiot, and that has not changed. BUT it is about time he is left alone. I could not see the charges that the US are trying to pin to the fool, but as Law practitioners have stated in the past, this case endangers the world to be held to American Law even across nations.

    I still believe he should answer to endangering lives, but frankly, that is not US lives. As for Spying and so on, Obviously a kangaroo court. Time is enough, he has spent considerable amount of time behind bars and I don't think anything he could be found guilty of would make more time, let it go.

    Enough is enough, time to leave him alone.
     
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  4. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Wow,
    you and me on the same page....
    Cats
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In America this is especially outrageous because of the (supposed) right to free speech.

    Let's keep in mind that no evidence has been openly publicly presented that he is guilty of anything that should not have been protected under free speech rights.

    This idea that he should be turned over to another country, and then we will see what the actual evidence is, and what the actual and full reasoning is for criminally charging him, is absurd.
    Suppose for example the government of the UK and Australia disagree with whatever verdict there is in the US, is the US under any legal obligation to have to hand him back?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The link is not working, so I will paste some of the story.

    Tim Griffin, the Austin Hospital nurse who blew the whistle about what he believed was medical negligence, has died. Griffin struggled for years to compel the Melbourne hospital to admit what he believed was a serious error in its treatment of a patient in 2014.

    The Austin hospital has always rejected his claims.

    In July 2014, Griffin admitted Rory Wilson, who had suffered a severe spinal injury in a traffic accident.
    Over the next several days, Griffin believed Wilson displayed clear signs of an imminent stroke. Griffin had reported some of those signs and tried to get Wilson the treatment he thought he needed, but his efforts were dismissed.

    After nine days in hospital, Wilson suffered a massive stroke which left him with permanent damage.

    Even though he was initially instructed not to, Griffin filed an internal hospital report flagging possible medical negligence.

    But the decision came back: there had been no error.

    Griffin had said his manager started complaining about his performance, changed his duties and shouted at him in front of other staff.

    He went on sick leave and was ultimately terminated.

    He complained to one authority after another, including the Australian Health Practitioners Regulation Agency and the minister for health. All either accepted the hospital's account or told him the matter was outside their jurisdiction.

    Publicly, the Austin Hospital maintained there was no failure in the care provided to Wilson, arguing that "earlier intervention would not have changed his medical outcomes as he was already receiving the appropriate blood-thinning medication that is used to reduce the risk of stroke".
    Whistleblower nurse Tim Griffin loses final battle - ABC News
     
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  7. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Well,
    for a reason not known to me, whistleblowers are the last our society looks up to!
    And they should, you read me, they should!!!!
    It must obviously carry some burden of infections decease or else, I don't know. It certainly means something dishonest....
    But whether it was this poor chap, or Willkie or Assange, they all deserve a medal in my honest opinion.
    But you know who receives medals?
    War heroes, some of whom were shooting civilians in the back.....
    Cats
    Lokk back in our recnet hostory, whether ist was Assange or Willkie
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Sorry,
    forget my last line. Always too fast on the keyboard ...
    Cats
     
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    Sigint controls the world. This man went against them. They will stop at nothing, legal or not, to see him tarred and feathered. Same with Snowden.

    We are culpable because we are right up there in the despicable sigint community. Anyone even vaguely associated with signals intelligence should spend the rest of their lives in prison without the possibility of parole, or we could legislate to bring back the death penalty.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When we treat whistleblowers like this (I mean we as a society and the court systems) we really cannot be surprised if abuse in government happens and then no one speaks up about it because they are too afraid.

    And as we should well know by now, when abuse happens, it is unlikely that anything will ever get done about it, until the public is informed.
    Even most of the lawmakers don't find out about it until they read it in the newspapers.
     
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    Frankly, this is little different (Assange, I mean) but the basic premise of your comment is correct. It takes real guts to stand up and point out the dispicable actions of community leaders and representatives as the results do tend to leave bad taste in the mouth.
     
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    Considering the fact that the chargers they seem to be demanding the world adhere too are internal charges, I would say they don't intend to hand him back regardless of obligation.
     
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    The agenda is to bury the truth. How do they do that? By using MSM to do the demonising and giving those who listen to the garbage a deluded version of the truth say rubbish such as "a threat to national security", translated. "We've been busted, doing something we shouldn't but are or have done.

    You got that right.
     
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    Another example of an Australian who got demonised because he was a truther, was Pete Evens. He was a successful tv personality who spoke out about COVID theatrics and not to take the jabs. He was vilified and professionally crucified. No more book deals contracts torn up etc etc.
     
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    Another famous whistleblower, Edward Snowden. Wonder why he fled to Russia? He knew something. Maybe the sanest and safest place on Earth?
     
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    My theory is that Snowden realized that likely the only honest government on the planet was the Russian government.
     
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    Where a government and a man take a country out of communism, whereas other leaders and countries are beginning to take the communist path, it would be a plausible theory, if not fact.
     
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    And I pity Julian Assange, the ultimate truth teller. The Ecuadorian leader gave him protection, but the British government gave him hell. A pity he could not have made it to Russia like Snowden.
     
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    Nowadays, if you tell the truth, you're a conspiracy theorist (I like spoiler alert better) or a nutter and get persecuted. Or if you tell the biggest porky pies (lies) you get accolades from all over and celebrated.

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    Signals Intelligence Directorate.
    Hmm, Australia's equivalent to the NSA. Spy on everyone & everything.
     
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    BigBanking is scared......
    BigBanking controls BigMedia......

    Here is a good explanation as to why BigBanking is so scared of Crypto Currencies for one thing.....
    but frankly I think that they are seeing their control over the majority of people slipping out of their hands rather fast......

    Covid 19 only accomplished about perhaps ten percent of what they had probably hoped that it would do for them.....



    The Worgl Austria Great Depression Experiment and a real estate boom in rural America?


     
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    What you got to understand is Big Banks are owned and operated by the Rothschilds, in particular the central banks. This is one of the reasons they use big media (MainStreamMedia/MSM) to convey a false narrative against Russia as a start because Russia doesn't have or want a Rothschilds central bank. They can't control Russia financially. But one thing I did read is that the NWO want to adopt their own crypto. To fit into their agenda such as what China has for the past few years of a social credit system. So if you do as you are told, you have access to your funds. If you are dissent you're locked out, you can't access jack squat.
     
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    ~ Much of this is due to a corrupt and biased "news" media. Thankfully we have more brave independent journalists these days .
     
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    Sadly, they're still being vilified by trolls such as those on this and many other forums. Stating that their investigations and research results are "bunk" as one example.
     
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