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As heatwave bakes Australia on land, an unprecedented marine heatwave causes fish kills in the ocean

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  1. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep and the mayans experienced something similar long ago. You would have called their long term weather climate change too. It crashed their civ. After they sacrificed thousands of their people to appease their gods .

    How many are you willing to sacrifice to appease the alarmists?
     
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    When the last little bit melted it flowed backwards up the Kickapoo river.
     
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    Glad to
    https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/02/WG1AR5_SPM_FINAL.pdf

    Get back to me if you find any errors
     
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    ahhhhh, the birth place of Elizabeth Warren.....

    :)

    Canoed it myself several times.
     
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    So what is causing THIS change?
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Steve N, Dec 17, 2019
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why don’t you tell us? What caused the changes in the past, Hummers?
     
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    Read it before multiple times

    Have YOU taken time to even read the summary?
     
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    Milankovitch cycles, solar variance, volcanic action, exposure of limestone beds, albedo of the planet etc

    Now tell me - are any of those factors in play at the moment?
     
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    Does it explain where the Wisconsin Glacier went and who caused it? Or does it conclude the way those that paid them wanted it to conclude?

    BTW, are the peeps down yonder using AC?
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How about THE Sun and orbital variances?
     
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    In the op :roll:
     
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    No but it links to research papers that do address those issues

    Nice strawman BTW

    You know, if you even bothered to read the summary you might start to understand
    https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/02/WG1AR5_SPM_FINAL.pdf
     
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    Probably increased c02 . But also natural cycles. A combo.

    But if c02 alone there is nothing we can do without some new source of energy.
    Taxing carbon is a scheme to create money for a few and solves nothing.ew

    Do our climatologists even know what caused other warm periods when wine grapes grew in England?
     
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    What “natural cycles”?

    And yes they do know and they also know why they went broke

    You would know too if you did a basic google scholar search
     
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    Did you have the exact same number of devices in exact same locations measuring temperatures simalteneously from 1910 till 2019?
    If the answer is no (which I suspect is the case) then your graph is sensationalist garbage.
     
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    Right! why doesn't Greta Thunberg go to China and complain and snarl at those Horrible Chinese, because 8 of the 10 most polluted Rivers that flow Plastic and all kinds of other chemicals into the Ocean are in China, the other 2 are in Africa. I haven't ever heard her complain about China once.
     
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    The natural cycles that create ice ages and then ends them with polar caps melting Hell they dont know why we get ice ages. With any certainty .

    Science gave us high tech and modern civ.but they have not been that good on predictions that involve something like climate cycles.

    Our world cycles. Do you deny that? We got warming periods in the interglacial alteady. Why?

    Science is tenative.
     
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    Maybe there is no change.
    Maybe you didn’t have accurate measurements till the last 50 years, then you mash that data with gross estimates/projections and poop your pants every time your highly accurate measurement of today is spiking against your incredible rough estimates of what should be considered to be “normal”? With our lack of accurate historic data we will be having “abnormal” years for the next couple of millennia.
     
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    Oh! You mean MILANKOVITCH CYCLES,!!

    See OP
     
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    Oh, how about the short inter-glacial cycle during this 2.5 million year ice age?
     
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    Ever heard of a thing called a “proxy measurement” no??

    Well I no longer am bothering to try and educated people, suffice it to say the scientists are convinced that they have the right measurements
    Read this

    https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/02/WG1AR5_SPM_FINAL.pdf
    Get back to me with relevant questions
     
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    How many have we documented ? It is a hypothesis untestable Right?
     
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    she did

    At the UN ( means United Nations) summit
     
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