As Ohio restricts abortions, 10-year-old girl travels to Indiana for procedure

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  1. Condor060

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    This one is from Ohio
    10-year-old rape victim denied abortion after Roe v Wade overturn
    https://news.yahoo.com/10-old-rape-victim-denied-103600633.html

    This one is from Texas
    US: 10-year-old Girl Denied Abortion In Texas After SC Overturns Roe V. Wade
    https://www.republicworld.com/world...fter-sc-overturns-roe-v-wade-articleshow.html

    This one is from Brazil
    A 10 year year old rape victim sought an abortion
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/07/02/brazil-child-rape-abortion/

    This one is from South Dakota
    South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem grilled about 10-year-old rape victim who reportedly got pregnant
    https://nypost.com/2022/07/03/south...bout-rape-victim-who-reportedly-got-pregnant/

    Anything ringing any bells for you yet?
    Really, how is an Ohio 10 year old, who went to Indiana for an abortion, the same 10 year old out of Texas and Brazil?
     
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    Wow.... MAGA's were busy a few months ago... Maybe hitting some Brownie meetings??
     
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    Not that it's relevant..but they can be sued for signing off in that state. Hence the problem.
     
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  4. truth and justice

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    You say her health would be at risk, I say her health would be at risk, does the law say her health would be at risk? Who is to judge that. Would the 10 year old girl's health be at risk at 10 weeks pregnancy? How about 14 weeks? What age does the pregnant girl have to be for her health not to be at risk meaning no abortion after 6 weeks
     
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    The site you reference appears to be out of date, and doesn't take account of the new(ish) "Heartbeat Legislation" (not surprising given how recently it came in to effect). Consent isn't the issue at all (consent, from the patient or NOK as appropriate, would be required regardless).

    These are the core changes in the bill I linked (my emphasis);
    The fundamental problem is that the basic natural physiology of a ten year old is likely to pose such a risk but "being ten" isn't a "medically diagnosed" condition. And however ridiculous we might think it would be, I don't feel it is unreasonable for an Ohio doctor to fear facing legal action if they did perform an abortion in this kind of situation, especially given the current social, political and judicial noise about the whole area.
     
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    LOL Do you ever bother to read your links or do you struggle to comprehend them? Which bit from your Texas link that stated "The 10-year-old, hailing from Ohio..." did you not understand?

    And Brazil has nothing to do with your three US states claim and the Brazilian event is verified so I'm not even sure why you think that is relevant. In fact it represents another own goal from you!
     
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    Reading the provided links would spoil the fun (which for them IS spoiling the fun)...
     
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    I'm confused as to how this helps your case.
    Are you pretending like rapes didn't start till the news reports them?
    This kinda crap was happening way before scotus overturned Roe v Wade. Hence why access to abortions were important to woman's freedoms and privacy. Now look...everyone's gonna be in that poor girls business.
    Privacy used to be a thing.
     
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    Rape is only 1.5% and the other reason are reported by numerous agencies and primarily personal inconvenience issues. As I cited 80% of rape victims who do become pregnant do not kill the baby as some "solution". Engaging in another tragedy rarely solves the first.
     
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    I'll say it one more time.
    Magically, the day after Roe is overturned, the leftist media came out with now 4, raped 10 year olds that all magically just missed the cut off time.
    So no, I don't buy into this.

    Not to mention, this would have nothing to do with Roe as those abortion restrictions were in place prior to the SCOTUS ruling.
     
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    Ok so we both agree. If the mother's life is in danger just as my website posted, she is eligible to getting an abortion provided a doctor signs off on it. Now here is the bullshit. In all of OHIO you are telling me that not one physician dare sign off of a 10 year old's health being at risk by following through with child birth???!!!

    That's not a policy problem. That's a doctor being ****ing stupid problem.

    I am calling bullshit regardless as I am going to assume that Ohio doctors are both not that stupid or not that scared. It's a bullshit story designed to induce rage. And does not represent the actual abortion policies within Ohio. This 10 year old should have gotten her abortion no problem within Ohio, as nothing regarding her personal situation had changed due to the heart beat bill.

    That was my entire point, of which you just confirmed with a better link. So thanks!
     
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    The doctor(s) plural because you are trying to sell me on the idea that ALL DOCTORS WITHIN OHIO are too stupid to sign off on an abortion for a 10 year old.

    That's like almost text book case of who they were thinking of when they wrote that part of the bill. So again. This isn't a policy problem, it's doctor(s) being ****ing stupid problem. OR more likely...the story is made up bullshit designed to induce outrage while not reflecting the reality of the bill.
     
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    Click bait story. I go to an out of state dentist. Waah!
     
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    That is true. I will amend my statement to: Abortion laws are as useless as a cement parachute. Government has no business getting all up in her business. This will only create a thriving medical tourism industry.
     
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    Do you really struggle this much with reading comprehension or just pretend to be this slow? The 3 cases in US states all refer to the same girl from Ohio! How many times does this have to be pointed out to you? The other is in Brazil which is verified so proves that these cases do happen and that case was in June before the abortion rule change in the US. Here, have a shovel....
     
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    You have ignored answering my post. So, according to you, a doctor can sign off on an abortion of, say, a thirteen year old girl who is 14 weeks pregnant because he thinks that her health is at risk?
     
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    And every one challenges each state abortion law.
    No family from Ohio went on an abortion shopping spree to Texas, or SD.
    Not to mention none of these states laws were changed by the ruling. All of these laws were already pre existing
    Which makes this 10 year old pregnant story bulls***
    Its a BS story ginned up for the left to have something to regurgitate.
     
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    So we've now jumped from the 10 year old that this thread is about to a 13 year old?

    So we can now both agree that the 10 year old story is bullshit?
     
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    Since you've already been informed that this is a world that many on the Right don't want us to live in, I'll inform you that this is a world that many on the Left do want us to live in:

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    Democrats for Life of America
    https://democratsforlife.org

    DEMOCRATS FOR LIFE OF AMERICA CELEBRATES SUPREME COURT OVERTURNING ROE
    24 June 2022. Posted in Press Releases and Statements.

    Looks to Brighter Future Washington, D.C.--Democrats for Life of America (DFLA) celebrates today’s decision by the Supreme Court of the United States in Dobbs vs. Jackson Women’s Health Organization. With the overturning of the legal regime fabricated in Roe vs. Wade, Doe vs. Bolton, and Planned Parenthood vs. Casey, DFLA welcomes a brighter day for all women, their preborn children, and our treasured democracy. “DFLA will continue advocating and fighting for a better future.”...

    https://democratsforlife.org/index.php/articles-and-op-eds/press-releases

    Apparently, CNN is aware of this because Jim Acosta interviewed the executive director of Democrats for Life after Roe was overturned...
     
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    Read your links though it is obvious you struggle with reading comprehension! Here let me help you; the clues are in the first paragraph of your link regarding Texas.
     
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    It's telling that you refuse to answer any questions
     
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    You pivoted. A 13 year old is different to a 10 year old. A 10 year old like who this story is about should have gotten an abortion no questions asked.

    So then before we move on to the 13 year old can we both agree that the 10 year old story sounds like bullshit?

    I'm going to assume you agree as that is probably what motivated you to suddenly pivot off of the 10 year old story...
     
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    You missed the second quote from the legislation. That provides a very specific definition of "Serious risk of the substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function" in this context, which explicitly requires there to be a medically diagnosed condition.

    I expect most physicians in Ohio aren't qualified (or willing) to sign off on an abortion anyway. I'm sure whatever institution a child abuse victim was receiving medical care would have several O&G physicians though (and could certainly call on others if it would help), any of whom would be qualified to sign of the abortion if they felt able to.
     
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    Why? You always scream RAPE and then ignore the other 98.5% of abortions. Why does an abortion for a horrible rape justify an abortion for a purely voluntary act?
     
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    Ahhh rape doesn't automatically make one pregnant. Try again. A woman can prevent herself from becoming pregnant due to a rape, why is it even an issue here?
     
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