As unimaginable as this is........it's getting worse. Part II

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  1. Sandy Shanks

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    You seem to think that is over with.

    It is not.
     
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    I love that Trump Russia collusion deal. Guiliani hanging out with those two Sputnik crooks keeps it all going too. It’s like the jelly of the month club. The gift that keeps on giving. Thank you Rudy.
     
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    At this point, bless their little hearts I hope they find the darn thing. They are so dog gone cute the way they long for that server. It’s like their holy grail. Thanks for responding.
     
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    Thanks to Barr and Durham who are getting to the bottom of the whole Russian collusion conspiracy theory and fraudulent FISA applications.
     
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    What crime was committed?
     
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    umm?? so what? if Trump withheld the aid to have Biden investigated for what he did in 2016 so what? We kinda already knew that. that has nothing to do with 2020.
     
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    Evidently Rudy’s Sputnik buddies done something wrong. They were last seen being dragged out of Dulles by their ears. Rudy seems to be in a little hot water too. It’s all very exciting at this point and little Adam Schiff seems to be having the time of his life. It’s a great time to be alive here in America.
     
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    So, Rudy didn't commit any crimes? Good to know.
     
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    With a whacky guy like Rudy, you never know. I think he’s interviewing criminal lawyers this week.
     
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    So, Rudy didn't commit any crimes? Just as I thought.
     
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    The Trumpers seem to have a problem with the word investigation, so I'll post it's meaning.

    in·ves·ti·ga·tion
    /inˌvestəˈɡāSH(ə)n/
    noun
    noun: investigation
    1. the action of investigating something or someone; formal or systematic examination or research.
      "he is under investigation for receiving illicit funds"

      • a formal inquiry or systematic study.
        plural noun: investigations
        "an investigation has been launched into the potential impact of the oil spill"
     
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    So, Rudy didn't commit any crimes? Just as I thought.
     
  14. Lee Atwater

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    You know you're flailing when the bar has dropped so low your only defense is speciously suggesting no crimes were committed by people in Trump's orbit.
     
  15. Lee Atwater

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    Sondland reverses himself on Ukraine, confirming quid pro quo
    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/05/sondland-reverses-himself-on-ukraine-quid-pro-quo-000318

    Gordon Sondland, a key witness in the impeachment inquiry, revealed that he told a top Ukrainian official that hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid would “likely” be held up unless the country’s government announced investigations into President Donald Trump’s political rivals — a major reversal from his previous closed-door testimony.

    The acknowledgment of a quid pro quo is an explosive shift that threatens to upend claims by the president’s allies that military aid was not used as a bludgeon to advance his domestic political interests.
     
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    Two choices...

    1) Sondland initially lied or 2) Sondland is lying now.

    Pick one.
     
  17. Lee Atwater

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    Door #1. Sondland's account is now in line with everyone else's. There absolutely was a quid pro quo.
     
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    So, Sondland is a liar? Good to know.
     
  19. Lee Atwater

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    So is Trump. What's your point?
     
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    Sondland was under oath.

    Try to keep up.
     
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    Live what down...

    We now know that both the DOJ and Ukraine had an active investigation going on when the call was made.

    The CROWDSTRIKE issue is what set off the hail storm.

    Sonderland's revision was made as a Hail Mary attempt to protect himself and Taylor from perjury charges..

    The smoke screen is now gone.
     
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    People changing stories to fit a narrative seems quite fishy. Either they lied then or are
    Lying now. Either way, can’t trust their opinions anymore. And in the end it’s all still opinion unless there is something new to learn.
     
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    Taylor was thrown under the bus in the first place. Schiff was privy to information about the active Ukraine investigation where he actually knew that Taylor was lying.

    Then when Schiff realized that he was also throwing Vindman under the bus, he stopped a question from being asked.

    Sonderland is simply trying to water down the meaning of Taylor's perjury.
     
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  24. Lee Atwater

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    Lev Parnas’ Lawyer Claims He Pushed Ukraine For Probe Of Bidens Using Threat Of Aid Freeze
    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...or-probe-of-bidens-using-threat-of-aid-freeze

    "Rudy Giuliani’s associate Lev Parnas told a Ukrainian official in May that unless the country announced an investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden, Vice President Mike Pence would not attend the incoming Ukrainian president’s inauguration and the United States would freeze aid funds to Ukraine, Parnas’ lawyer claimed.

    The New York Times reported the claim on Sunday, though others involved in the meeting deny key details of Parnas’ story. Pence ultimately did not attend the inauguration and the congressionally approved aid to Ukraine was only released months later, in September."
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    From article: "....though others involved in the meeting deny key details of Parnas’ story."

    So, basically more fake news from talkingpointsmemo. LMFAO!
     
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