Ask your difficult questions of an Atheist.

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Are you a doctor ?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I may be an expert on matters of real estate, appraisal matters and lending matters, but sorry I am no doctor and do not accept patients.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No but he is.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    And you have never defined “ death”.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I supplied a video by a doctor that did that.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Death is the permanent cessation of all biological functions that sustain a living organism. In most cases, bodies of living organisms begin to decompose shortly after death.
    So no, they didn’t die and come back to life.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We agree. I wager you did not bother to look over the videos I supplied.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    I’ll wager you didn’t listen to this near death experience. No, they weren’t people who were actually dead. It’s subjective. There have been no scientific trials set up to ascertain real experiences that were true. Move on.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I watch all of the videos I submit and know the content. Did you ignore the doctor talking of pronouncing them dead?
    One that recovered was dead per the doctor for 25 minutes.

    Do not think I plan to convert you or get you to think. I showed this and am content.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Correct, you use faith to be an atheist, you cannot be an atheist using pure logic and reason.
    Yes we do have some fanatic neoathesits here.
    Your point? You are not Jesus?
    Must be pretty big pole.
    Santa is a tale told to children in memory of the good deeds and generosity of St Nick.
     
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    Wow, a doctor made a mistake pronouncing some one dead. That never happened before did it ?
     
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    Gelecski7238 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Karl Popper, the guy who invented the falsifiability concept, declared that the theory of evolution is untestable and is a metaphysical consideration.
     
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    Perculiar, there are no near death experiences beyond* the body decomposition. As science has shown, they can be dulplicated when the body is deprived of oxygen and it naturally reduces consumption to the brain. Of course, no believer includes those who suffer severe brain damage and live horrible afflictions the rest of their lives. That would be way too inconvenient.
     
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    Contextomy Fallacy duly noted for the record!

    Here are the FACTS!

    https://ncse.com/cej/6/2/what-did-karl-popper-really-say-evolution

     
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    That’s the most rediculous idea and contradicts literally, the foundation of biology. Evolution is biologically tested everyday of our lives in the scientific community . We consider the evolutionary process to treat cancer, make vaccines and process and grow foods.
     
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    A very common thing with the near death experience is the white light. And that is a biological reason because things are shutting down Years ago people who got ether would see spirals and they would say it was God
     
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    The only way I could be an atheist is to use logic. To believe in the invisible man in the sky I would have to suspend all logic.
    Santa is a tale told to children and they believe it until logic sets in and they know its impossible. That is kind of what happens to atheists. We realize that there is no logic and that it is only a need. It is a tale the same way Santa is a tale. How Do you know that there is no fat man in a red suit ? God is Santa for adults
     
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    I wonder why God would save that dead person? He must be the new messiah. He’s a walking miracle?
     
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    you fail logic since logic demands proofs, proofs you do not have.
    Like theists you assume your guess is right.
    I dont, I see them in the mall.
     
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    LOL how do you prove that I am not seeing a pink unicorn. There are about a dozen of them outside. Prove that they’re not there. You can’t prove a negative
    Prove That there is not a man in a red suit in the north pole coming down chimneys. So you believe that the guy in the mall is the one that brings presents to kids. OK that’s your logic. Some people grow out of the Santa Claus need and some don’t
     
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    Logic in this case does not "Demand Proof" as that would require proving the negative, which is illogical. Do you require proof that a Triceratops is not in your backyard or can you simply assume it is untrue by deduction. Logically you know the beast is extinct and thus not in your yard so it is not required to open the door and look. You seem to continuously expect others to provide the proof you cannot produce when asked....very poor debate form.
     
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    To be fair if he did not have poor debate form he would have none at all. ;)
     
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    Wow, the white light in the tunnel . Of course it means nothing to you that this phenomenon can be induced at Will in medicine when the occipital nerves are deprived if o2.
     
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    I have no need to play footsie with people who have no answers. By neoatheist standards proving a point contrary to their agenda is poor debate form.
    Neoatheists seem to require me to educate them so they can stay in the game.

    The Mythic Difficulty in Proving a Negative

    Michigan State University College of Law
    Digital Commons at Michigan State University College of Law
    Faculty Publications 1-1-1985
    Kevin W. Saunders
    Michigan State University College of Law, saunde44@law.msu.edu
    https://digitalcommons.law.msu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1426&context=facpubs

    My advice to neoatheists is to make sure they always get a lawyer if they ever go to court so they can avoid getting their asses handed to them.

    Suffice to say its easy to prove a negative, you just dont know how. Logic in every case demands proof. "when asked" is not an option I am willing to give you unless you are willing to send me a check for my time since you and every other neoatheist on this board have asked for the same proofs that I have posted countless times.
     
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    I know that! That was the point I was making!!
     
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