Assange Moved To Prison Hospital, Can Barely Speak

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  1. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    I've ceased being astonished by ruthless liberal defense of horrendous behavior, whether torture, terrorism, the destruction of individuals for exercising free speech - you name it.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Yup.

    Also, lickspittling of war criminals/sociopaths is admired & rewarded.

    Assange REALLY went the wrong way in terms of his personal best interest.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Oh, we're getting to be China more every day, comrade.
     
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    At least Assange hasn't died from an unexplainable prison suicide, like Jeffrey Epstein did in the care of Dirty Donalds puppet Barr Barr Black sheep.
     
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    Assange was railroaded. Snowden deserves to rot in prison.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "WikiLeaks said in a statement on Wednesday."

    I trust Wikileaks as much as I trust RT.
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How heartbroken and disappointed he must be that no-one of the people for whom he risked his life is coming to his aid. There is no mass revolt, no demonstrations of protest over his inhumane treatment... just lame chatter on a forum that accomplishes nothing.

    And for crying out loud, why isn't his home country getting up and give the American leadership some heck?

    The same goes for Snowden, he, too, deserves support from the masses across the globe for his revelations. If I was one of the two men, I think I would just cry and become bitter. They must feel so forgotten and lonely in their ordeal. They probably regret their heroic actions as it has been all for nought.

    In our present society the good people get slandered and condemned, while the really bad people get honored and worshiped.
     
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    Wikileaks acts more like a database than a media outlet. They have little or none added opinions, just raw information. Like searching for all leaked emails for Sony.
    I don't recall any western governments denying the info on Wikileaks and their assault against the platform and Assange proves me there is factual information.

    I don't deny it can't be fabricated but I guess you don't trust the information posted because it's anon and one-sided, more West related information?

    From my side, some RT news are okay, but never one that involves Russia's interest somehow. They have a narrative, and it's targeted for western audiences from Russia^^. A red flag from me.
    A week does not go by without some racial garbage stirring. I tend o avoid these kinds of outlets that discuss race often.
     
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    Torture, Anglo-American style.
     
  11. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It shows the power of the press and how they can arouse or not arouse people whenever they want. This is why the MSM's were bought up by 6 major corporations - something that would not have been possible had it not been for the liberal Clinton administration. It's amazing how these propaganda networks can impress into people's minds the most ridiculous fallacies, while at the same time evade legal actions by using terms such as; 'allege', 'we believe so', 'it appears to us', 'everything points to', etc..

    No where does Washington, London or the MSM ever show proof for what they state, yet people follow along. Assange is simply a victim of the misuse of our governments bullying power - otherwise why wouldn't Australia stand up for one of their citizens?


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    We never question what we're told
    and run along so proud and bold
    without a turn so we can't see
    the lies of what they're telling me.


    For should we dare to doubt their word
    we'd lose the comfort of our herd - Jeannette



     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Snowdon didn't like what our government was doing, and felt the American people should know. In the past decades, I think it would have been commended, but then he would have had the media on his side. What is ironic, is how we always protected the Soviet dissidents, and today it's the opposite. Russia is protecting our dissident. A reversal of political systems? I think so!
     
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    Not liking something is not the same thing as stealing and disseminating classified information. A lot of people didn't like what the government was doing and were speaking out on it. Snowden is a whole other ball game. He isn't a dissident. He is a traitor and a thief.
     
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    https://consortiumnews.com/2020/08/...ers-make-urgent-appeal-to-british-government/


    ASSANGE EXTRADITION: International Lawyers Make Urgent Appeal to British Government
    August 16, 2020

    An array of international lawyers have written to the British prime minister, foreign secretary, secretary of state for justice and home secretary outlining his illegal
    treatment and demanding Julian Assange’s release.




    Worth the link(age)
    Many good points.


    Moi :oldman:


    Got FREEDOM
    Less and less.

    Meng Wanzhou too!
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    Forced to live in :flagcanada:
    over 1 year void of "due process"
     
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    A lot of people steal and reveal classified information, and they pass it on to investigative reporters. It doesn't matter to the government though, because the publications are then threatened not to publicize it.

    But look, if we're going to condemn Snowdon, then why not Hillary Clinton? After all when she was Sec. of State, wasn't she sending classified information to Weiner's computer knowing full well his wife's brother and mother were living there at the time, and that they were Saudi citizens and members of the Muslim Brotherhood?
     
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    I condemn them all. Hillary, however, is not even remotely connected to this Snowden-Assange stuff. Like I said, I think Assange is being railroaded and should be afforded first amendment protection unless he had guilty prior knowledge (which I have seen no suggestion he did). If I were to become President this very minute, the Assange fiasco would be over by the end of the day. Snowden I would never let off the hook.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Epstein was killed by the Mossad, CIA or some client so Epstein wouldn't reveal his name in court. His Lolita Express was a means to blackmail foreign dignitaries and even domestic politicians for the CIA and Mossad. Videos and photographs were taken of them in illicit acts with underage girls, to keep them in check and to gain favors.

    I don't doubt the Clintons were heavily involved.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How can you say Clinton is not involved, when it was the information given to Assange by Seth Rich that cost her the election? That Britain would go along with it, shows you how connected London and the Democratic Party is. But then again wasn't it the former MI6 agent Steele that made up the false dossier?
     
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    OMG We Disagree After So Many Years

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Body_Count
    https://www.google.com/search?sourc...C45LjUtMZgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXo&sclient=psy-ab

    Remember Vincent Foster, if not Seth Rich!


    Coincidence?
    Any reasonable life insurance company should add charges
    to any with previous Clinton employment.
    Tell me it ain't so.


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    Roses Are Red
    Tacos Are Life
    Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
    It Was Bill's Wife!
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just think in this case, there were a lot more people gunning for Epstein than just Hillary. Who knows how many politicians he had the goods on, and how many foreign dignitaries. Hey, it might have even been the MI6, let's not forget Diana.
     
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    YES

    And the conglomerate of powers involved,

    Clintons are among those "powers"

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    What Part Do I Have, INCORRECT?



    the Clinton Body Count, Matters.
    Except to the "faithful"
    :worship:
     
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    Imagine if the US never dropped the atomic bomb on Japan.

    Let's say 15 years later a US contractor working in nuclear weapons says, "OMG the US has weapons that can destroy whole cities, and they have thousands of them! And here are the documents that show how they have these weapons aimed at several countries. And here are the documents that show how France and UK have developed their own nuclear programs!"

    Now that would have caused an uproar. Until you realize that the USSR and China are doing the same thing. And not only did the so called whistleblower say SQUAT about Russian or Chinese nuclear programs or give any context whatsoever to the West's programs, he actually fled...to both of them.

    Both Assange and Snowden are enemies of the US and its allies. Everyone get it now?
     
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    Just because somebody else does it, doesnt make it right/give you the right for you to do it yourself.
    especially when your complaining about some of them getting them (iran) while your the only one that ever used them.(hipocrit).

    If trump shot a random democrat tomorrow would it suddently be ok for Pelosi to to shoot a random republican ?
    i would say no and say they both deserve to be punished/shot for it but judging from you Americans i have my doubts that most of you guys would say No.

    that sayd i hope snowden & assagne get a pardon and assagne especially doesnt deserve this
    + snowden fled there because there was place else to go that is out of reach for the US, doesnt mean he likes Russia but the fact remains most of europe would have returned him to the US, they would probably grab him in africa & south america so whats left ?
     
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    It's not about right and wrong; that was the point of my hypothetical. We're stuck, all sides.

    Big difference in your hypothetical: when I place myself in Pelosi's shoes, I got options to bring Trump to justice. When I place myself in the shoes of whoever is responsible for our cyber security I have no option to abstain from the actions my enemy is taking. At least not options without significant danger.
     
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    And what's wrong in telling the American people what their government is doing? Isn't that the way a democracy is supposed to work, especially since it's going to affect our lives and the lives of our children? Wasn't it the pressure from the Americans and especially the Germans with their massive protests that forced Reagan to start a nuclear disarmament program?

    If our government is not telling us, then wouldn't it be those in our government who have financial gain from our arms build ups and aggression be the enemy? To give you an idea of how dangerous the situation is, after the massive explosion in Beirut, Moscow said that it has no way of knowing if a missile coming at them is nuclear, so they will be forced to respond with a nuclear weapon.
     
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