Assange Moved To Prison Hospital, Can Barely Speak

Of course this is the real world on this planet and in politics ... I don't live in some pink Barbie world or something

However, it is always hypocritical and makes you unbelievable if you point your finger at one of these bastards, call him a bastard, list his actual and alleged crimes and possibly even wage war against him ... but at the same time the protective one Holds your hand over other bastards and you're blind to their actions.
This is what disturbs me ... especially if you then also play the moral apostle like the USA and talk about yourself as the best democracy in the world and where everyone else should take an example ... but at the same time prevent people in dozens of places from having such a great democracy at them!

 

As an east coast radar air traffic controller at the time, I can attest that this would have been impossible. At any given time in radar facilities, there are a number of visitors,staff, or trainees observing the "show". In order to pull off this conspiracy, conspirators would have had to clear the rooms of facilities up and down the east coast so as to prevent questions as to what's up with these planes? That didn't happen.

 

Already right what you write ... 1991 and 2003 are connected in a certain way.
In 1991, the legitimate goal was to liberate Kuwait, but not to overthrow Saddam. Bush senior was smart enough to know that if he eliminates Saddam it will be a second Vietnam and more so ... he creates a power vacuum and destabilizes the whole ME.
His son and his gang were less smart and talked about "the job not finished in 1991" and we see the result today.

P.S.
And that extremist morons as Bin Laden became upset is also true ... but that the will become such a danger and do things like 9/11 was at this time no topic and this was correct.
And about Bin Laden itself with 9/11 ... it is another example of incometence of Bush governemnt and the point that the 3 big secret services were by law not allowed to speack each other about a common case like here (and also they hated each oter a little bit too as competitor).
If the responsible Agents of FBI, CIA and NSA had took place at a table and shared all their information, 9/11 would never have happened.

 

I don't say the world should look to the US as an example of much. I do say they should hold up the debates of the framers and some subsequent SCOTUS decisions as great leaps forward in thought on how to govern ourselves, but not much else I can think of.

 

I thank you for your input.

I wonder if you've ever heard of Transtech Control Ltd Airfield Management? It is an Israeli company dealing with "airfield management", and doing business in the US.

As a controller, I'm sure you've trained at OKC and know that fake targets can be "injected" into operable radar screens. That is, radar systems can be spoofed for training purposes, including training exercises.

Are you now or were you then aware of Vigilant Guardian and other such training exercises on that day?

No matter FAA visiting procedures, 911 was an inside job, planned years in advance by very powerful interests.

 

I think it went down differently. I think that even before 9/11 the Saudi king was warning that our troop presence in Saudi was spawning a violent movement, one which he was finding more and more difficult to suppress. We needed to find a way to get our army out of his country without leaving Saddam unchecked. After 9/11 it was decided we would leave Saudi, but not before removing Saddam. 6 months after the 2003 invasion we removed the tens of thousands of troops we had in Saudi for 15 years.

 

The radar system wouldn't be the only thing one needs to spoof when dealing with a civilian flight. The system will generate a flight plan printout to any controllers printer of which the aircraft plans to penetrate their airspace, well before radar acquisition.

Also one would have to have personnel on site at many different radar facilities simultaneously as they aren't connected in primary radar, only secondary (transponder)

 

Then you are surely of the opinion that it was not a Boing 757 from Flight AA77 that hit the Pentagon?

If so ... then you can surely explain and prove to me what else it was that caused such great destruction and such a huge fuel explosion.
You can also explain to me all the aircraft debris from a Boing 757 that can be seen ... for example one of the broken main landing gear on the meadow in front of it ... because how does a part that weighs several tons suddenly get there?

 

Dont forget the teams of people the conspirators hired to quickly knock down light poles as a missile would not do this.

 

Iran by far... US is on the out. - the writing is on the wall - rockets landing on our bases of operation as we speak.

What did we expect .. installing a Shia Regime - the population being majority Shia.

The China/Russia/Iran (CRI) triad will have hegemony on the region in fairly short order - from a historical perspective. 10 Trillion dollars over the last 20 years .. and what was our return on investment - a bigger mess than we started.

I claim we have lost the ME -- Syria is obviously gone China Russia will be doing the rebuilding - same with Iran - Belt and Road Initiative - and Iraq.

Oman and Qatar are on good terms with Iran - playing both sides of the fence. .. speaking of on the fence - our influence in Turkey has waned significantly - opting for the S-400 - despite heavy protestation and threats ... NATO - and all that. Turkey has been flexing its muscles of late - now involved in affairs in Libya - another place the China/Russia will be rebuilding.

Let us not forget that the EU will be right in there like a dirty shirt .. just the US will be out of the loop. Note the latest failure of the US to get UN approval for the new Iran Sanctions ... the EU - including Britain .. was unanimously against us - along with China Russia and everyone else .. oh . except Dominican Republic .. they sided with us ... our only sheep.

That leaves us with El Saud .. China is now their #1 Customer .. but for now - we can claim El Saud as part of our hegemonic sphere

We have lost the ME..

 

When the perps control the Pentagon and the FAA infrastructure, it's easy peasy.

 

Understanding that no airliner struck the Pentagon does not necessarily mean one understands what happened to "the passengers".

Understanding one has been deceived DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN that one knows all the answers. All it means is one knows one has been deceived.

 

I disagree. I treated my radar like a biker treats his Harley. I knew its quirks and blind spots. I knew when something was going on. Plus I could see the shack from the smoking area. I or my colleagues would know if someone was messing around out there. And I'm not aware of any tech that can paint a false primary target (I've observed ECM/jamming but those don't paint a target that moves like an aircraft)

 

That's all well and good, but there are no facts that support the official story.

If you want to read up about Vigilant Guardian and NORAD injects, you should consider "Crossing the Rubicon" by Michael Ruppert, written 2004. Especially Chapter 19, Wargames and High Tech: Paralyzing the system to pull off the attacks. Quotes from Toronto Star and others regarding injects.

 

I worked side by side with Saudis for most of 2000. When I learned that the hijackers were almost all Saudi, it rang true to me. The 9/11 conspiracy theory is ridiculous. You do realize that it would have required thousands of people working in perfect synchronization to pull it off? And those thousands would have to remain silent for 20 years. Preposterous.

 

No it wouldn't have. That morning conversation between NORAD and FAA shows how. FAA calls NORAD, and NORAD responds "is this training exercise, or real life?" demonstrating the confusion that Ruppert details in Chapter 19. The rank and file are pawns in the game, if you've played chess.

The aircraft that hit the towers were not AA11 and UA175, they were drones. The public was fooled into believing there were hijackers. The public was fooled into believing that 1998 vintage cell phones could have done what they supposedly did. The public is very easily fooled, but you likely already knew that.

The ONLY criminal trial that resulted from the events of the day was that against Mouassoui. During the discovery process it was shown that by ACARS data that UA93 was still flying in Illinois 30 minutes after it supposedly crashed in PA. No, you didn't hear that on mainstream media.

 

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How many people did they have to hire to knock down those light poles in front of the Pentagon? What knocked down those poles? I saw it in several news feeds immediately after. I saw landing gear and other plane debris on the lawn. How did that get there?

 

I guess we're really off topic, eh?

I can only speculate as to how the light poles came down, but it is certain that AA77 did not bring them down because it wasn't there.

Whatever wheels you saw on the lawn were NOT the landing gear assemblies of a 757 that had supposedly penetrated through several rings of the Pentagon structure before coming to rest. No pictures showed the landing gear assemblies of a 757 because there was no 757 there.

My own opinion is that some sort of flying object DID strike the building, but that aircraft was very much NOT a 757. Perhaps something much smaller as the debris suggests and as the parking lot camera shows. Much too small for a 757.

 

It's not off topic. Touting 9/11 as a conspiracy prevents any debate on any action related to the war on terror since, which is exactly why the preposterous theory is propagated. It's kind of like debating the merits of different actors in the post war division of Germany with someone who refuses to believe WWII even happened. You're going to have to get that fact through their skull before any discussion can be had.

 

The events of 911 were certainly a conspiracy, because nobody acted alone.

The only question for the curious analyst is just who the conspirators were.

The official conspiracy theory, if you will, has no facts to support it. Indeed, what facts are available all contradict the official theory. In short, for it to have been true the laws of physics and aerodynamics would have to have been suspended for the day.

Alternative conspiracy theories are many.

I'm basically neutral, but I am certain that the official theory is invalid.

 

So how many people would it take to make it LOOK like 4 airliners crashed? Just your best guess ballpark?

 

Well ... I see that a little differently than you. There is the official version, which is questioned and even denied by people like you = everything is a lie. So you are accusing the US government of lying here and the rule of law in any justice system is that the prosecution side must prove that there is a lie ... not the other way around, that the accused must prove innocence.

In other words: Anyone who says the official version of 9/11 that the Boing 757 from American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon is a lie, has to prove it, or at least offer a plausible and fact-based alternative, that can be right.
But if jeamd only claims it is a lie without proving it etc., then with all due respect, that is simply an irrelevant claim and nothing more.

 

Correct ... but the list is long of things here and at WTC too.

The general problem with conspiracy theories like 9/11 or the landing on the moon, which supposedly never happened, is that the people who believe in these conspiracy theories are completely immune to facts and nothing and no one can destroy their belief in conspiracy.

Pretty much every one of their claims has been refuted with facts, or plausible and reliable explanations have been given, which these people deny and call a lie of course.
Do you remember the claim that thermite was used in WTC and that traces of it have been detected accordingly ... also mentioned as evidence, the glowing liquid aluminum filmed from a corner and pouring out?
How many tons of aluminum (aisde other materials) is an airliner made of?
Aluminum melts at what temperature and how hot was the fire according to this Truther himself?
And besides aluminum, also steel and oxidized steel, which was also available in large quantities in the WTC building itself?
What is thermite again made of?

You just have to answer these questions ... impartially and truthfully ... and these points of the conspiracy theory have burst like a soap bubble!

And this is how it comes to nearly all of these milling around conspiracy theories of whatever topic ... if someone takes a closer look on it!

 

Amazing cure.

Assange, who is being held on remand at Belmarsh prison after being refused bail in March, appeared at his hearing at the Old Bailey in London on Monday with his white hair neatly cut and wearing a dark suit.

His clean-cut appearance marked a stark contrast from his dishevelled appearance when he was arrested at the Ecuadorian embassy in Knightsbridge — his political refuge for 6½ years — in April 2019 and dragged into a prison van.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe...rt-hearing-at-old-bailey-20200907-p55tc6.html

 

I can't understand something. Assange is not a traitor since he's not an American, and he can't be considered a spy since he wasn't in the US when he obtained the information. Also he didn't work for a foreign government, nor did he reveal any information about our military capabilities and what we're planning to do.

So what is Assange being tried on other that revealing what we had done in the past. But actions of that type have been revealed by investigative reporters many times, or we would probably still be in Vietnam.

The way I see it, the pressure on Assange is tyrannical and adamantly against human rights and the freedom of the press. This means it has to be coming from those who believe that the end justifies the means. To me it would be the liberal DNC (Clinton) and the European nations that are against national sovereignties and who staunchly believe in a One World Order and Government?