Atheist Shocked by Who He Meets in Heaven | NDE

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have long believed in GOD though this does not mean religion. I can cite many reasons for believing we lived in the past, not in the earthly human form, but in the form of GOD. So let's listen to this Atheist and his change of mind and heart. I prefer not to defend this nor read it attacked. It might be very important to all readers. My motive is to help you learn, not pass judgment. So join me as an Atheist discusses death.

    I am definitely wanting to know what you learned today.

     
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    These are exactly the views I have of the relationship between our soul/spirit/higher self, and our bodies/egos. The body is just a vehicle for our spirit, and our human ego is the survival instinct our body has, but our spirits are something else entirely. I absolutely believe in god, or whatever you want to label it, but I realized organized religion can lead you astray easily, deceiving from the fact that god is love, and nothing exists except god.

    Beautiful video, thanks for sharing!
     
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    How do you know this actually happened and wasn't just a dreamlike hallucination he had while his dream was undergoing trauma?
     
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    You don't know. And you can actually induce similar NDE with oxygen deprivation. Much like alien abduction experiences, they always take the form of something talked about in the culture or seen on TV or in movies. There's probably a good reason for that....
     
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    Thats a very good point. I even heard oxygen deprivation can create the tunnel of light perception some people claim. Maybe NDEs in ancient times even influenced religion. You can get out of body experiences (OBS) which are similar to NDEs, from drugs, and trauma.
     
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    we are definitely more than our bodies, they are just a vessel for this life
     
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    I had an out of body experience when I was a child, it was brief, maybe 30 seconds

    this experience scared me when it happened, I so wish I was calmer at the time, had not panicked, but I wasn't expecting it and knew nothing about that kinda thing before that moment, maybe I will be lucky enough to experience it again with a calmer more relaxed mind, one can only hope

    I wish everyone could have the same experience, it's a life changer, but it does bring more questions than answers, but it definitely makes me believe we live on after death

    even if it's just the brain playing tricks on us, it's still an amazing experience and none of us will know the truth until we die
     
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    I predict that you will find the following discussion quite interesting.... and encouraging.... and useful......

    WHAT PERCENTAGE OF MOUNTIES WOULD YOU GUESS PRAY ON A REGULAR BASIS BECAUSE OF THEIR BELIEF THAT THEY SURVIVE EACH SHIFT BECAUSE OF THE MERCY, GRACE AND KINDNESS OF JESUS?


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/mounties-for-freedom.593546/#post-1073026381
    Mounties for Freedom...


     
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    I may be missing the point because I didn't invest the time to watch the op video but, I'm an atheist, I've flat-lined twice in my life and there was not a light at the end of the tunnel.
     
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    There is no reason to believe that other than because people want to.
     
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    I also died and was revived when I was 7. And there was no bright light, only the absolute bliss of nothingness.
     
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    Zero %.
     
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    I had an out of body experience once.

    I was sleeping in my bed when I realized that I might be late. Even though I was late, I still didn’t want to get out of bed.
    I knew I had to check the time. The clock was around the corner of the wall at the foot of my bed. I got up, and made my way to the foot of the bed and looked around the corner to see what time it was. The digital clock said it was 8:43. I then looked back to where I was sleeping and saw myself sleeping there! I immediately got scared and snapped back into my body. I woke up with a start, got out of bed and looked around the corner and the clock still read 8:43.
     
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    So does this mean that you think that ninety nine point nine percent of Royal Canadian Mounted Police are too dumb to
    understand the obvious implications to
    String Theory
    The Anthropic Principle
    The Cyclic Model of the universe / Multiverse
    Energy from Quantuum Vacuum
    and how these four topics related to the creation of an amazingly "green" future for Canada, the USA, Israel and Australia within merely decades.... and perhaps by 2035?


    After the Abraham Peace Accord turn deserts green...





    I suppose that it is best that we not even bring up an Alternative Theory on Stabilization of the climate that to my thinking can be tweaked to begin the process toward genuine Peace in the Middle East and a true Unified Field Theory of Modern World Problems that is centered in Israel.




    Wow!!!!!!

    I am guessing that your view of the level of intelligence / wisdom and understanding by members of the RCMP on philosophy / spirituality and philosophy would be much more positive than what edthecynic has!?

    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/


     
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    The only proved out of body experience is the one the undertaker has when unemployed.
     
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    I don’t think of it as an astral body leaving my physical form.

    At the time I was experiencing a lot of sleep issues including sleepwalking. One night I dreamed that I went out to the kitchen and made myself a coffee. The next day I woke up, hung out in my room and did whatever and then later came out to find that on my kitchen counter was a cup that was over flowing with sugar and a bunch of cereal and stuff all over the counter. That is when I remembered the dream and also that I didn’t have a coffee maker.

    Not that I am trying to negate your NDE experiences thing. It sounds interesting.
     
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    Maybe your spirit was not ready for the revelations a NDE would provide. Maybe you still have lessons to learn as an atheist before you are ready to learn of things from a spiritual perspective.
     
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    How would you know that if you have not had the experiences yourself?
     
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    I doubt it. If anything, thinking about reality from a “spiritual” perspective is limiting. Most of the time, when people think of things in terms of the supernatural it gives them a sense that they already know the answer to stuff. I think keeping an open mind is the most important thing.
     
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    Experiencing oxygen deprivation and the sensations and hallucinations it creates for yourself does not make you any more able to prove it is anything other than that.
     
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    Matthew 25:31 to end strongly suggests that you will find Christians in hell.
     
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    You have no idea what any of those terms mean!
     
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    Comments like that make me proud to share with outstanding forum members.
     
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    Tough to fool trained doctors and nurses.
     
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    Lets count down to your final instant of life. And you get a good look at those who believe and notice in a flash that if only you believed, you like them would live on, and on and on.
     

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