Attack Against Christendom

‘Creature’ is only one of thousands of very peculiar translations the Bible is riddled with.
Take for instance the ancient Greek arsenokoitis (1st Timothy.Ch1:V10.) which accoding to today’s scholars of the language had, judged by context, a meaning something like ‘one who uses personal relationships for material gain’ or more to the point ‘pimp'. Todays and earlier renditions give for arsenokoitis ’sodomite’, ‘pervert’ or 'homosexual’ . Of little consequence some may claim but they weren’t the ones burnt at the stake by the church.

 

Debunked here: https://mennoknight.wordpress.com/2015/06/09/responding-to-five-arguments-about-arsenokoites/

 

I'm not arguing for the idea of the papacy and Peter being the first pope, I'm saying we have historical documents that say he was in Rome, which even your link admits.

 

Millions more homosexuals have died of self-inflicted AIDS than from dying at the stake.

 

That argument fell on it’s face over a decade ago when we learnt the largest percent of AIDS cases acquired in Africa were by female heterosexuals. You may want to take into account that today, in most western nations, HIV is being acquired at a faster rate by young heterosexuals and junkies than gay men.
I’m reminded of an AIDS care team I was on. One night a group of Baptists from Exodus (look it up) arrived outside the bedroom of a man dying of HIV chanting ‘Repent or you’ll go to hell’, ‘Sodomites are Satan’s agents’ and other such cheerful phrases. What they didn’t know is the couple I was caring for inside were straight having acquired HIV from post car accident blood transfusions in Singapore. The man was semi delirious with AIDS dementia and actually believed God has sent angles to warn him of his fate. His last two days on earth consequently became a living hell as a result of that little ‘ministry’ outside his bedroom window.
As to your absurd attempt to somehow invent a balance sheet with ’self inflicted AIDS’ on one side and ’those dying at the stake’ on the other I have no idea what you’re trying to say. Maybe you don’t? Never, mind, you have the comforting delusion your sins are forgiven by a deity who tortured his son on the cross to redeem them.

 

Mike Pence is an American Catholic Christian. Here is Brother Pence visiting war refugees in an American concentration camp he helped to create.

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According to the CDC, 67% of new US AIDS cases are gay males, despite being about 3% of the population.

 

He was born Catholic, but is now an evangelical.

Another LW lie, did you say the same when Obama ran these places?

 

I have run across a number of cases where a church leader, or member is caught in the very acts they condemned others for doing. The self righteousness of the Christian right is really disgusting.

This is hypocrisy at its worst. "Hypocrisy" is derived from the Greek word "ὑπόκρισις" literally meaning "actor", but it also means, "orator's delivery" such as preaching.
... the playing a part on the stage, the actor's art, Arist.
2. [select] an orator's delivery, declamation, id=Arist.
3. [select] metaph. the playing a part, hypocrisy.

Rev. White exemplifies the characteristic of name-Christians that use religion to spread hate and prejudice. He was famous for being a ferocious preacher against sexual promiscuity and the LGBTC community. Heterosexuals commit most pedophilia crimes--take Jeff Epstein, Donald Trump various rape allegations, and Bill Clinton for example. Saint Augustine of Hippo once wrote, “Love God, and do as you wish,” as the guiding principle for Christian behavior. Child rape is not an act of love. The only thing Christian about this story is the LGBTC former coordinator’s response to the minister’s arrest.

 

I'm tired of these arguments that are false and would be absolutely meaningless even if they were true.

And, I find it disgusting to try to limit the numbers game to those burnt at the stake. You're downplaying the creativity of the murderers.

 

Swaggart is a con artist and Pence is a goblin. Pence is the MVP of the Trump team - the "Mandatory Vaginal Penetration" candidate. A piece of human garbage who hates the founding principles.

 

“In the universities, puppet rectors were appointed: not men who were obliged to defend the intrinsic value of science and the belief in truth of science, and the belief in truth but rather puppets of the propaganda minister, who were obliged to see that every scientific truth was distorted through the addition of a propaganda lie.”—Paul Tillich, 1943.

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As you can see in the video Jordan Peterson is criticizing a person who claims to be both a Marxist and a Christian. Peterson’ point is that holding such beliefs is contradictory. So he proudly proclaims himself a Christian and “anti-communist,” “anti-socialist,” and “anti-Leftist.” However, he has many friends that are “Alt-Right” which is a euphemism for fascist White Supremacists.

So what kind of Christian is Jordan Peterson? Well, one can determine that by listening to his theology. In the beginning of this video Peterson explains his view of religion in response to a question.

Jordan is asked to define what is "religious” and he said “Religious is what you act out. Everything you act out is predicated on your implicit axioms, and the system of implicit axioms that hold as primary is you religious belief system.”

Anti-Communist Jordan Peterson is using the very definition that the Christian Socialist and Theologian Paul Tillich made famous in his three volume work “Systematic Theology (1951)” in which he present a new theological hermeneutic known as “the method of correlation.”

Tillich further explains “There is a correlation in the sense of correspondence between religious symbols and that which is symbolized by them. There is a correlation in the logical sense between concepts denoting the human and those denoting the divine.”(Ibid., p. 60).

Consequently, Tillich re-interprets the meaning of “religion.” This was not done in secret, but is a more fully developed project of re-interpreting Christian Theology such as in Hegel’ Absolute Idealism, Friedrich Schleiermacher, which opened the way for Heidegger’s phenomenological de-mythologization of Christian ontology (Being). Tillich is carrying on this same de-mythologization/re-mythologization of Christian theology. I write more about Tillich’s Christian Socialism here in which he attempts to make theology relevant as “theology of culture” and Tillich does this by use the of concept “ultimate concern.”

Tillich expanded the concept of “religion” to mean “ultimate concern” because it is important to modern theological issues and was not meant as a marketing ploy to “trick” persons. This is a complete misunderstanding of what Tillich is getting at: “The object of theology is what concerns us ultimately. Only those propositions are theological which deal with their object in so far as it can become a matter of ultimate concern for us.” (Ibid., p. 12).

And again Tillich explains,”…like every human being, he [the philosopher] exists in the power of an ultimate concern, whether or not he is fully conscious of it, whether or not he admits it to himself and to others.”(Ibid., p. 24).

So my complaint is this: Peterson trashes “leftist radicals,” “liberals” as “communists,” and “socialists,” but here he is using a famous concept from a socialist who Peterson thinks could not possibly be a Christian and not giving any acknowledgement, or recognition to those he mimics with his religious apologetics. And I say “mimicking’ because Peterson is only using Christianity as a prop to present his gateway version of Christian Fascism.

 

Is there anything in your emotional rant you want a response to? Not only do you hate God, you hate His followers.

 

Is this where you try to smear Christianity by pointing out those that act contrary to Christian teaching?

No, or mosquitos either. Sorry the passage is so difficult for your to grasp.

 

My post is neither a rant nor emotionally charged - just a short and simple statement of fact. Since you can not deal with this reality you responded with an emotionally charged rant full of hate and demonization.

You have been tricked and drank the koolaid. Pence and Swaggart are not followers of God - they are followers of Satan.

Matt 7
15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you pretending to be sheep. But on the inside they are hungry wolves. 16 You can tell each tree by its fruit. Do people pick grapes from bushes? Do they pick figs from thorns? 17 In the same way, every good tree bears good fruit. But a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree can’t bear bad fruit. And a bad tree can’t bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down. It is thrown into the fire. 20 You can tell each tree by its fruit.

Did you think the greatest deceiver is going to show up with horns and in a red cape ? If you think these goblins are followers of the true God - you have been deceived somewhere along the way.

You should listen to Jesus and not these charlatans and purveyors of false doctrine. Jesus follows the previous passage - for those that did not understand the first time.

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven. Only those who do what my Father in heaven wants will enter. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord! Lord! Didn’t we prophesy in your name? Didn’t we drive out demons in your name? Didn’t we do many miracles in your name?’ 23 Then I will tell them clearly, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who do evil!’

This is just like Swaggart - running around crying "Lord Lord" and pretending to be a follower of Jesus for financial gain - Pence for Political gain.

Earlier on in the Jesus's sermon (Matt 6) he says

5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them

You have been tricked by the evil one - turn back from these false pretenders and start following Jesus.

 

It is delusional at best to think you know what others are thinking and motivated by.

 

No, there is intersubjectivity. It is not delusional, it is human rationality because it means we have "common meanings" and have a basis for community which is being relentlessly attacked today. Intersubjectivity provides a common language, and certain norms, a common world with significant actions, meaningful celebrations, and shared feelings. Welcome to human society!

 

is that your excuse for the church covering up for children that molest Children?

many good Christians out there, some bad ones too

 

You local Public Service Announcement.

 

In your previous post you did exactly what you are now accusing others of by stating "You hate God and God's followers"

The Psychological term for this is "Projection" Projection is a psychological defense mechanism in which individuals attribute characteristics they find unacceptable in themselves to another person.

You stand up for goblins like Pence and Swaggart - thinking that this is defending Christianity - defending Jesus, but then turn around and ignore/deny the teachings of Jesus I posted to you. How is this not delusional at best - "lying for Jesus" at worst ?

 

I think priests that molested kids should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and RCC leadership that covered up for them too. This is really a homosexual issue caused by the RCC unbiblical celibate clergy rule. Most of the perps and victims are male.

 

Fair enough, that is my opinion. Always interesting when those who say they don't believe in a personal God hate Him in a personal way.

I don't know enough about them to smear them, why are they goblins, whatever that is?

 

Religion attracts pedophiles, all religions, they have the trust of the parents and kids, and an open door because they have God's cell number.

 

I have never said I do not believe in God or a personal God - what ever your use of the term "personal God" even means I don't know. What is interesting - well rather disgusting actually - is those who claim to believe in Jesus but do the opposite of his teachings - Like Swaggart and Pence.

If you don't know enough about these goblins - then why are you pretending otherwise by getting mad when when they are called out for being Goblins. Get a grip.

 

True of every Christian who ever lived, including Jesus' hand picked disciples. None are perfect, just forgiven. Unlike false works-based religions, Christianity is based on the free gift of salvation by grace.

Back up, define goblins, and tell me why they are. All I get so far is you don't like them. For you to smear people I assume you have a reason.