Avowed Neo-Nazi from Charlottesville is running for Senate in Florida

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, he is not running for a Senate seat as he is currently not eligible to. He issued a press release. That's nothing. Anyone can do that.
     
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    Human beings with stripes don't change 'em. Better?

    As a Republican, I agree with you. If we are discussing the KKK, neo nazis, white supremacists, who happen to be big time supporters of Trump, of course they engage in violent activity.
     
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    He is being paid as surely as Evan McMullin and David Duke are being paid for their efforts.
     
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    Again you equate 2 very lopsided groups. When was the last time a member of the KKK, neo Nazies, etc., ambushed and killed 5 cops and injured 9 other people? BLM did that in Dallas in 2016. Since BLM was formed in August 2014, BLM members have killed at least 11 cops and wounded 9.

    When was the last time - if ever - one of these KKK, neo-Nazi, white supremacist groups did anything even remotely similar to the BLM violence?
     
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    I can't speak to BLM. I don't know. But I do know how the nazis, KKK, white supremacists act, and that is not acceptable in our society.
    Funny how you are are a staunch defender of the nazis. The KKK have done a lot of killing and the nazis have announced that they
    would be doing some killing. And if the BLM has done what you said, then they are out in my book also. But the violence caused by
    the "loaded and cocked" nazis in Virginia is unacceptable.
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How many shots were fired by the "loaded and cocked nazis in Virginia?

    How many shots by loaded and cocked blacks murdering police have there been?

    Can you comprehend the difference? I doubt it.
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can't recall any "Nazi" murdering anyone in the USA. Can you?
     
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    Don't doubt me, because what happened due to the "protest" joke against removing the statue was a ploy to cover their true agenda.
    So it is ok to walk at a "peaceful" protest dressed for violence, carrying weapons, goading the opposition with racial slurs, and finally
    killing one and being responsible for two other deaths? They were well prepared and aching to explode at any time. Again, do you support the kkk, nazis, and white supremacists? They were looking for trouble, and any intelligent person knows it. An ex white supremest (Nocholas Pistolini) has stated that they have
    been committing murders for 100 years in the USA. Go figure.
     
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    I don't keep tabs on who murdered who.
     
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    Anthony Baumgartner
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Good last sentence. It is in the nature of nazis to be violent, for their disgusting ideology pretty much pre-programs violence into them. As we saw in Charlottesville, there appears to be a large intersection of the three where I take pause and ask, say, when referring to a White supremacist, where the KKKer in him ends and where the nazi in him begins.

    As to your first sentence, nicely formulated and yes, many human beings cannot "spring over their own shadow", as the Germans like to phrase it ("kann nicht über seinen eigenen Schatten springen"), but some indeed can. I would say that Robert Byrd's actions after he left the KKK, and he left it completely from what I have read and watched, speak for themselves. But should you have real evidence to the contrary, I would be willing to read/watch/listen to it.
     
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    Correct.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overland_Park_Jewish_Community_Center_shooting

    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/10/museum.shooting/

     
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    Since then — from Sept. 12, 2001, to Dec. 31, 2016 — there have been 85 attacks in the country by violent extremists resulting in 225 deaths. GAO reported citing data from the U.S. Extremist Crime Database.

    Of those 225 deaths:

    • 106 individuals were killed by far-right violent extremists in 62 separate incidents;

    • 119 individuals were killed by radical Islamist violent extremists in 23 separate incidents;

    • The number of people killed in a given year ranged from one to 49.

    GAO noted that 41 percent of the deaths caused by a radical Islamist during the reviewed period happened in one incident: the 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting. In June 2016, Omar Mateen, born in the United States to Afghan parents, killed 49 people at Pulse nightclub in Orlando.
     
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    I don't have any evidence to the contrary. I was trying to appease the bad guys.
     
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    So you are proposing your position while having no knowledge of the facts. In other words, you are unqualified to state an opinion.

    Look up the BLM and their violent activities. How could you miss the ambushing of the cops in Dallas? It was on every media outlet for weeks.

    Over one violent act in Virginia you would ban all the groups whether directly involved or through indirect association, but will give BLM and antifa and the rest of the "left" the benefit of the doubt?

    Prove it. Show exactly the post where I defended the Nazi's. Or are you just someone who throws salacious false accusations just to silence people you don't agree with? Wait, doesn't that sound just like BLM and antifa and the "progressives"? It sure does.
     
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    Not that it would bring teers to my eyes to see those unAmerican leftist thugs get what they deserve. But If he really is a Nazi, why do you say "he beat people" in Charlottesville, when it's just as likely, if not more so, that he was one of many who were beaten by anti American radical leftists. Do you have proof?
     
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    Hey that dude even looks like the perfect Nazi, from a ww2 film..right out of central casting!!

    And the anti first amendment antifa group could only happen after 8 years of Obama. But at least these KKK and neo Nazis are such a tiny part of our population while the anti first amendment fascists are exponentially much greater in numbers. And unlike the racists, actually might get some political influence, which is scary. This small group of racist KKK and neo Nazis are no where as dangerous to our rights as these fascist antifa nuts are. Yet all of the concern seems to be on a tiny group of racists. LOL Well, I guess their attire helps to make them more scary? They are beginning to look like people out of central casting, reminding me of the isis videos that showed isis as if they were out of central casting, with identical black arab attire, all with the same shoes, as if someone chose their wardrobe in order to make them look even more ominous. LOL Hollywood must be involved?
     
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    You didn't really read the OP, now did you? Hmmm???

    Sad....
     
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    LOL

    One does not appease the bad guys.

    One uses facts and logic to cause their small yet flaccid heads to spin.
     
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    Logic doesn't work, because their minds are made up no matter what.
     
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    I read your OP and your commentary, highlighted in bold that which i found to be grossly agenda driven in your commentary, and then quoted your entire post. To which I then responded. So tell me what you think that I missed.

    fwiw, I do not believe that a Nazi can faithfully serve his beliefs and any governmental capacity in any part of the USA at the same time.
     
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    Those damn sneaky Russian agents and sympathizers! The millions and millions of Russian agents and sympathizers in the United States seemed to have suddenly disappeared.

    Fortunately the MSM detected and has now exposed that they all have shifted loyally to becoming Nazis, KKK and white supremacists by the millions. Tens of millions of Nazis and KKK, they are everywhere! Fortunately the Democratic Party has answered the call to war against these millions of Russian Nazi KKK white supremacists and their sympathizers.

    President Trump should immediately declare martial law, mobilize the military and National Guard, and order the round-up of all foreigners as they may be Russian infiltrators and all the Nazis and KKK in the county before those Russia agents and sympathizers turn this into a bloody open 2nd civil war. Without a doubt, this warrants using martial law to suspend the Constitutional Bill of Rights just as Lincoln did during the Civil War.
     
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    You missed it by asking about "you guys". I am not "you guys". I am one individual. Sorry, in case you are too dense to not be able to understand that, then your mental insufficiencies are not my problem. So, instead of trying to act coyly, just be honest next time. It makes no sense for you to ask me a question about "you guys" because I am not "you guys" nor do I speak for anyone else but myself.

    Your last sentence is imo very spot on but we can cut to chase and say that the the nazi ideology is a completely ****ed-up ideology and nazis are not really Americans, for everything they stand for is completely antithethical to our constitution and system of governance.
     
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    You must have me confused with someone else. In neither of my two posts to you did I refer to you, to your post, to your values, or to your train of thought as, "you guys". So I will forgive you for calling me "dense", "mentally insufficient", and "dishonest".That said, I too agree with your last sentence.
     

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