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It's just as amazing that so many Westerners, left & right have been trained via Zionist dominated MSM to hate people they've never met and most likely never will meet.


“U.S. media coverage reveals a pro-Israel bias”

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2014/09/01/commentary/world-commentary/u-s-media-coverage-reveals-a-pro-israel-bias/#.WMLm5mafK_U
EXCERPT “Why does TV news look like a Netanyahu ad?” asked Chris McGreal of The Guardian on July 31, in his article on the “notoriously pro-Israel mainstream media in the U.S.”
In fact, three main dailies here from mid-July to mid-August easily gave the impression that U.S. President Barack Obama, not Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, was prosecuting a war against the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. The U.S. State Department continues to list the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) as a terrorist organization.
Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal dispelled any doubt about which side it was on. On Aug. 2-3, its Review section gave a two-page spread — “In Defense of Zionism” — against an oversize photo of a flag-raising ceremony in Israel, in 1948.”CONTINUED

 

And Muslims have been murdering innocent people all over the world, just like those in the photo, long before any invasion of Iraq.

The Lancet is a medical magazine and that report has been discredited numerous times. In fact it was Islamists killing the Iraqi people and, for example, threatening them if they dared vote in the elections. Had the Coalition wanted to kill the Iraqi people they could have done it in a few days.

 

So? Are you going to share your own wisdom on the subject with us?

 

How does this address the claims made in the post you responded to? If I was to go into a area and release 1000 tigers resulting in the death of thousands of people, whose fault is the deaths of those people?

 

Please show where The Lancet has been "discredited" and by whom.

Every thinking person recognizes that the various sanctions and wars against Iraq have been a tremendous bloody folly and a murderous disaster for the Iraqi people whose suffering you are oblivious to.

Perhaps this source will be more to your liking but your redundant Posts have only revealed a bigoted hatred toward people you've never met and countries you've never seen:

"ORB survey of Iraq War casualties"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORB_survey_of_Iraq_War_casualties
EXCERPT "On Friday, 14 September 2007, ORB International, an independent polling agency located in London, published estimates of the total war casualties in Iraq since the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.[1] At over 1.2 million deaths (1,220,580), this estimate is the highest number published so far. From the poll margin of error of +/-2.5% ORB calculated a range of 733,158 to 1,446,063 deaths."CONTINUED

 

I'll start with the fact that Wahhabism isn't some.ancient strand of Islam, but a modern one.

 

It seems you don't know that the Lancet is a medical journal not designed to do polling on war deaths. Those who have discredited this survey can be found by simple googling.

It's important to understand not just the casualties but who is doing the killing of innocent people and then, as now, it is Islamists who are the murderers. Do you not know the carnage ISIS and Al Qaeda, as well as several other Islamic groups, are committing throughout the world? Can you really blame this on the US, considering that Muslims were murdering innocent people long before the invasion of Iraq even occurred?

I'm certainly not oblivious to their suffering. What a stupid thing to say. The question really is who has contributed most to their suffering. Saddam Hussein before the Coalition invasion or the Muslim forces once the American forces left?

I've never met a Nazi either but am quite aware of the death and destruction they've committed. And of course you have no idea where I've traveled and who I've met. Another stupid remark.

Does it mentioned who was doing the killing? With a little more effort you'll discover it was Muslims.

 

Only in Islam can something which occurred several centuries ago be called "modern".

 

Right, The US military was comprised of only Muslims who did all the killing & continue to do all the killing.
Non Muslims never kill

 

The modern Era began in fits during the 16th century, with strands stretching back the Charlamagne.

Only to Americans is a few centuries a long time.

Wahhabism was a response to Western influence.

 

And only among Muslims can centuries old dogmas be relative today, enough to kill and to die for,

It really is too bad these backward people weren't more accepting of western influences.

 

Not true at all. Westerners retain their spot as most effective killers, a spot we've held for centuries. We just done it for democracy and secularism.

We've been the dominant warrior culture for a long time, and will continue to be.

Most of them have been. Hell, even Wahhabis. History is funny that way.

 

Look, educate yourself by watching Bitter Lake, then come back and apologise?

 

Apologize for what? You spoke of 7th century Wahhabis. I pointed out that this revealed a lack of understanding.

 

I'm afraid that you'll get nowhere trying to educate either paid Hasbara Trolls or untraveled, poorly educated Westerners whose only source of information is Zionist dominated MSM.
Since every conflict has 2 sides, I took the time & trouble to hitch-hike through the Islamic Mid East & learned, first hand about Muslim culture & customs. While I still have much to learn, for the entire 10 - 11 months I was in Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon etc I experienced only kind generosity and warm hospitality not found in the West.
Trying to explain these & other positive realities to MSM addicted, Barcalounger ensconced Islamophobes is as wasteful as it is frustrating.

One of the most frequently asked questions I encountered while in the Islamic Mid East was:"Why do Americans suddenly hate us?"
They were referring, of course, to America's relatively lopsided "Israel First" Policy that accounts for much of the recent anti American sentiment throughout not just the Mid East but much of the World.
I tried to explain the toxic influence of MSM on American minds as well as the equally toxic influence of AIPAC etc on US Government Policy but my Muslim hosts still couldn't understand how a people they admire (Americans) could be so easily manipulated & duped.

The American government's unconditional support of ANY Israeli War Crime, Human Rights violation, act of aggression & land theft has cost America, literally $ Trillions and thousands of American lives

A reality many other people have tried to explain to irredeemably dense Islamophobes is that: "They don't hate us for our freedoms etc, but they have come to hate us for what what we do and have done to them."

A peaceful Mid East is (or was) only as far away as an evenhanded US Mid-East Policy.

 

The United States has not supported any action the Israelis might take.

Given this fact, the Likud is following a path of self-destruction. The Israelis must recognize how weak their hand is, and how much weaker it's getting.

It would be foolish to pretend that American-Islamic relations hinge on Israel. Israel is important, but rarely central.

 

Only one of us is suffering from 'a lack of understanding' and it isn't me; the 7th century fundamentalist Wahhabis are today's jihadists, as you'll discover for yourself when (if??) you watch Bitter Lake?

 

Because is more unlikely ... you will go on and defend Trump for all BS he does further?

It says much, particularly that I see what they are when defending worst BS as correct as they do, eh?

 

Is your tiger analogy suggesting that Muslims are like crazed and murderous animals with little sense of self control?

 

None of this makes any sense. Post a coherent post and I'll respond.

 

Yea, like every country in the world, there are groups in the population who will kill to get power. That includes Muslims, Christians, far right, KKK, White supremacists. I have little doubt that if the US government, US army and US police were removed in one swipe, your country would also quickly become like Iraq with rival gangs racing to get into power. The seeds already exist in your country as evidenced by recent events

 

There were no Wahhabis in the 7th century.

 

Oh well, in that case how can I possibly argue with someone who was there.

 

What does this mean? Are the KKK, "White supremacists" Christians and 'the far right' really as great a threat as international Islamic terrorism? Perhaps you can give some real evidentiary examples of how any of these groups compare to Islamic terrorism.

 

What would happen in Houston right now if all police and law and order was removed in an instant? You already have curfews imposed and these curfews are having to be imposed by your police. There have been guns shot at the rescuers by looters. Gangs of looters are roaming and this is while you do have some law and order. You must be very naive to think that everything will be fine if the police, army and government was removed in an instant