Because some on the board still deny it..........

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Russian election meddling meant to help Trump, hurt Clinton, Senate Intelligence Committee finds

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/16/rus...d-to-help-trump-hurt-clinton-senate-says.html
    • Senate Intelligence Committee leader Mark Warner says Russia's election meddling efforts were ordered "for the purpose of helping Donald Trump and hurting Hillary Clinton."
    • GOP chairman Sen. Richard Burr said, "We see no reason to dispute the conclusions. There is no doubt that Russia undertook an unprecedented effort to interfere with our 2016 elections."
    • The House Intelligence Committee had taken exception to the intelligence community's judgment that Putin favored Trump in a summary released prior to its final report.


    It's heartening to know at least one of the intel committees in Congress wasn't completely compromised by Repub partisan hacks like Nunes.


     
  2. Hoosier8

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    Yet...still no collusion.

    They helped Bernie too but TDS will not allow considering that.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Except the liberal press promised us Hillary would win, every poll told us so. Unless of course the media are idiots or the pollsters are frauds, the Russians were simply attempting to sully Clinton's campaign prior to her victory. It really had nothing to do with Trump actually winning, because nobody outside of Team Trump saw him winning. Unless the Russians are more credible in polling Americans than the liberal media...
     
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    You DO realize that Republican chairman Burr saying "we see no reason to dispute the conclusions", is NOT in reference to Democrat Senator Warner claiming that "meddling efforts were ordered "for the purpose of helping Donald Trump and hurting Hillary Clinton."....do you not? Burr was referring to the conclusion that Russia meddled, and he specifically said as much.

    As far as Russian meddling?.....of course we know that occurred.
     
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    Well it looks like Russia made a **** decision then, because all they've gotten is an armed Ukraine, missiles into their bases, and dead mercenary companies to show for it.

    I bet he wishes he could go back to paying Bill and Hillary for their "speeches", buying up uranium, and having Obama ignore Syria.
     
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  7. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope.

    From the article (don't you guys ever read?).

    **Russia intended to help Donald Trump secure the presidency when it meddled in the 2016 election, Senate Intelligence Committee leaders said after a closed hearing Wednesday.

    Committee heads Mark Warner, D-Va., and Richard Burr, R-N.C. arrived at the conclusion after completing its review of the U.S. intelligence community's analysis of the Kremlin's interference in the election.

    "After a thorough review, our staff concluded that the [Intelligence Community Assessment] conclusions were accurate and on point," said Warner, the committee's vice chairman. "The Russian effort was extensive, sophisticated, and ordered by President [Vladimir] Putinhimself for the purpose of helping Donald Trump and hurting Hillary Clinton."



    Burr said in the statement: "We see no reason to dispute the conclusions. There is no doubt that Russia undertook an unprecedented effort to interfere with our 2016 elections."**
     
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    Sorry, but this doesnt change one iota what I said. You ( the article) are merely taking the words of the Democrat ( Warner) on the committee and masquerading that as the finding of the actual report. What the article says and what their quotes say are NOT the same conclusion. The article is purposefully and misleadingly conflating them to be the same. The actual report found that Russia meddled in the election and didnt address the notion of whom it was intended to help.

    It is a meaningless point to begin with, but their slight of hand is not accidental. Since Russia organized activities that hurt both sides, it is obvious that they were just trying to create havoc. With a report thats main purpose is to announce that they found no collusion, the left is trying the "hey look a squirrel" approach to change the subject with a play on words regarding an irrelevant tangent.
     
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    Senate Committee declares that "1+1=2" .
     
  10. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's somewhat murky as to whether accepting an offer to conspire with the Russian government to obtain compromising material on Hillary (which Donnie J clearly did) constitutes a violation of law. Opinions differ.
     
  11. Lee Atwater

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    Committee heads Mark Warner, D-Va., and Richard Burr, R-N.C. arrived at the conclusion after completing its review of the U.S. intelligence community's analysis of the Kremlin's interference in the election.

    Perhaps English is your second language?

    As I said, some on the board are still in denial.
     
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    Is the Russian collusion in the room with you right now?

    Sad how people just cant believe someone had different opinions than them and just didn't want to elect Hillary as POTUS.
     
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    And yet using a fake dossier to drum up a FISA search warrant is perfectly "ok" by those trying to claim, but cant prove, Russia helped to get actual dirt on Hillary.
     
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    So, russians meddled by using social media. But did they actually affect outcome? No evidence of that. And they are known to meddle, by using propaganda, just as we do. And yet, it never mattered until this last election, and most americans had no idea of previous meddling. No doubt some of us will think that only in 16 has russia tried to meddle. For that serves the trump/putin collusion ruse/narrative.

    And so we found out that russia meddles in elections, just as we do, and we also found out, but not mentioned by that committee that this is common behavior from the russians, just as it is from us. They didn't start just in 2016, as some would prefer that you believe. So that committee found out what many people already knew. They could have told us that without investigating. ha ha.

    Did the house committee come to the conclusion that russia in no way meddled? Or just like the senate, that no illegal collusion was found between trump and putin, just some meddling?

    Not sure why this is some kind of victory for the author of this thread.
     
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    Indications are around that it was a setup.
     
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    They arrived at the same conclusion? Since this wasnt part of the official report....did they speak in unison? If so thats strange, because they showed actual quotes from the two men and they both said completely different things.

    The only conclusion that they BOTH arrived at was that Russia meddled and that they found no evidence of collusion. A senate report comes out dispelling the myth of collusion and you are chasing a squirrel on some irrelevant tangent. You are a useful dupe.
     
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    Always left out is that no evidence is ever offered. Just anti-Trump politicians saying "believe me!"
     
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    Are they referring to the same intel report, that on page 13 included the caveat of their conclusions not being based upon evidence? So the senate agreed with the report even when it was not based upon actual evidence, but just their "feelings"? ha ha ha. So based upon the senators "feelings" they felt that the "feelings" of those 3 cherry pick intel analysts, that was not based upon evidence was the right "feeling? Now while this looks like some joke, some parody, it isn't a joke or a parody, even if that is exactly where it belongs. ha ha ha
     
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    Haven't you and your posts been discredited enough already?

    I mean, look at your total messages in the 6 months you've been here at PF. You've averaged about a 1000 messages per month and have nothing to show for it as the democrat party falls out of favor with the American PEOPLE.

    Steve
     
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    Not a fake dossier, not used as the primary source for the FISA warrants.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, I suppose when you can't refute anything I write all that's left is pointing out I post a lot.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like I said, some on the board are still in denial.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really? Another unfounded conspiracy theory.
     
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    And I really thought this was the one, even when it had click bait written all over it :)
     
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    Like the collusion?
     
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