Becoming a victim

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  1. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

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    Last Night I was going back home in a small minivan loaded with tools, I had been doing remodeling work.

    I was very tired and very weak.

    I have a medical condition that leaves me quite weak if I work too hard and do not eat.

    My minivan has a defective fuel gage and I lost track of how much fuel I had, I was at an underpass, and called a freind for help by bringing me some gas.

    I was not armed as I had left my sidearm in the safe, and rushed out.

    A young fellow stopped, he looked 17 or 18, blond hair, blue eyes, 6 foot tall, stunningly handsome, he seemed more like a clothing or bathing suit model.

    He asked if I needed gas, he offered me his 5 gallons of lawn mower gas, and to come get it from his Ford E-350 conversion Van.

    So, away I went, when I reached for the gas can, I felt a sharp blow to my groin that almost knocked me unconsious, and I was vulnerable, unable to defend myself except maybe to draw the sidearm that I had left at home.

    The guy, had me by my neck and it hurt terribly, and he seemed about to re-enact a prison rape scene, and vulnerable, half pinned down and exposed, he had me by the privates and it hurt exceedingly, leaving me as weak as a puppy.

    He was remarkably strong and athletic and I was very weakened having not eaten anything all day.

    Lots of cars were passing and I had a freind on the way and told him so, he was already very nervous and pulled me out of his van and pushed me to the ground and I scraped my hands.

    This is horribly embarrassing to relate or admit, however, it is the last time I ever leave home unarmed.

    So pardon me if I want to cuss out people that say I need not be armed.

    And no, I did not call the Police and be further humiliated, as a Retired Police Officer, I will see him again one day as his purely Evil but handsome fawning young face is permanently etched in my memory.

    I will not call 911 until after.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sounds like revenge is on your mind.

    and that will land you in prison for a VERY long time.
     
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    Good.

    I will gladly go.
    If it had happened to you, and I hope it never does, as you get older, you might not want people to be so harsh to you.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL!!!

    doubtful.

    you got attacked, it happens, call the police and let the professionals deal with it.

    if you go to prison they will kill you, as you're an ex-cop.
     
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    Thankfully, the Police in Portland treated me as one of their own the last time I had to use my sidearm a year ago.
    This was just too embarrassing to report.
     
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    That sucks. I hope things work out for you.

    I’m currently on a 3 day road trip for work. One of my job sites is a military base and I had to leave my gun at home. It would be nice if they had a system to check it in and retrieve it when I leave. I’m disarmed all week for a 2 hour job on an army base.
     
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    I recommend locating a range or gun store near where you work and leave your gun there, being unarmed means being a potential victim.
     
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    Unfortunately, I don’t have time to find a place. I’m already working 12-14 hour days. I do field service all over the US. I guess I could keep my hotel room an extra day and keep it there, but it’s hard to justify spending an extra $100 to store my gun and work wouldn’t pay for it. Technically, I’m not supposed to have a gun in the company vehicle, but since they forced me into a company car and I know that most of my management also carry, I’ll ignore the policy and not push the issue with them. I’m not breaking the law, just company policy.
     
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    At one point I had a similar postion, and was using my personal vehicle, they at first did not check vehicles, later, they implied they might check personal vehicles at random.

    I helped change that policy.

    Truth is, often, where there is a will, there is always a way.
     
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    and if the bad guy gets you from behind, you can still be a victim even with a concealed gun.

    you had some bad luck, it happens
     
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    Who knew that PF could transcend into Penthouse Forums.... I just feel, icky....
     
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    That's life.
     
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    can social media posts be used as evidence in a court of law?
     
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    Anyone can be ambushed. It happened to me once, an unseen bad guy coming up from behind with a gun; I owned the gun he had for nearly 30 years. Anyone can be hit and killed by lightning (I have known personally of two). Anyone can die in a car accident. In any potentially dangerous activity no one can guarantee their safety 100% but they can improve their odds. I have done and still do activities that can be dangerous such as sky diving, several hundred drops (some into jungle canopy) and hang gliding. In the latter, the stats are 1 in 560 flights results in death and by that measure I should be long dead. Against bad guys you can increase your odds by developing situational awarness and rather than a profile of being a blissfully unaware victim in waiting. Even President’s surrounded by armed men can be killed. Jeff Cooper suggested a way of conceptualizing situational awareness. What’s your point?
     
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    I have a friend who was ambushed from behind by a bad guy.

    He was a man who knew what he was doing and had lots of street experience. He walked away from the ambush without a scratch. His assailant.... not so much.

    If you are willing to maintain the right mindset, you can and will prevail. Too many people actively choose to be sheep.
     
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    Bullish!t meter off the charts with that one
     
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    Some people just choose to have FOOD emblazoned on their back.
     
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    Boy it’s gettin deep in here. Might need hip waders soon.
     
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    It's amazing when people are categorically unable to accept facts contradictory to their preconceived notions.
     
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    Some people refuse to understand you have a better chance Armed than unarmed.
    Then resort to tauting and flame baiting and insults.

    I posted this account in the hope others might not fall into the same trap.

    The insults and comments vary little regardless if you are the victor or the victim.
     
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    unless the bad guy grabs your gun and shoots you with it
     
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    Only happens when distracted by a unicorn...
     
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    or when the CCW is afraid
     
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    Well now, there had been at least two threads that have been dedicated reports of those successful in actually defending themselves with a gun. Match those numbers with those where a criminal took away a gun and used it on a victim.... and you wonder why you aren’t taken serious?
     
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    Quod Erat Demonstrandum

     
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