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  1. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's exactly what Hitler did with Nazism. The relationship between National Socialism and Communism is poorly understood by many present-day communists and anti-communists alike. Because Hitler constantly spoke out against Marxism*, and indeed because the NSDAP was initially created to counter the post-WWI spread of Communism in Germany which threatened to divide society along class-based lines, a common misunderstanding has arisen that National Socialism was an antithesis to Communism. Often ignored is that the NSDAP recruited many of their early members from within the communist parties in Germany at the time. Both Nazis and Marxists sought support from the same pool, hence the rivalry.
     
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    Intresting info...Thanks. Hitler controlled the media and Goebbels was a master propagandist. Those who trust the media today should study Nazi Germany's media. Apparently it was convincing enough to hide the death camps and provide a false prediction of German victory.
     
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  3. dairyair

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    I don't snoop in FB. I already said that. FB privacy policies, I don't agree with. They keep track of every keystroke one does.
    If you got nothing credible so be it. We'll end the discussion. Which is what I figured. There is nothing but RW nut stories.

    And I've said, 3rd time now, it is suspicious the police haven't been more active in stopping the riots.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    You actually not showing where in the story you can point that out. What part of you make a claim, prove it. Not some story that skirts around your claim.
     
  5. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Josef Goebbels actually adopted his methods of media propaganda from Edward Bernays.
    Woodrow Wilson began one of the earliest uses of government propaganda, waging a campaign of intimidation and outright suppression against those ethnic and socialist papers that continued to oppose entering WW-1 Taken together, these wartime measures added up to an unprecedented assault on press freedom. By Executive order, Wilson created a new agency, The Committee on Public Information – which journalist Stephen Ponder called
    “the nation’s first ministry of information”.
    Edward L. Bernays, a nephew of Sigmund Freud and a pioneer in theorizing about human thoughts and emotions. Bernays volunteered for the CPI and threw himself into the work. His outlook – a mixture of idealism about the cause of spreading democracy and cynicism about the methods involved – was typical of many at the agency.
    “The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society,”
    Bernays wrote a few years after the war. “Propaganda is the executive arm of the invisible government.”
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    Propaganda by Edward Bernays (1928) - History Is A Weapon
    www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.htm
    In fact, the main one, Edward Bernays, ... The propaganda system of the first World War and this ... The media through which a political campaign may be brought home ...
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Edward Bernays - SourceWatch
    www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Edward_Bernays
    Oct 01, 2012 · ... American President Woodrow Wilson engaged ... of the first overt media acts for a president. Bernays used his ... Edward Bernays, Propaganda, ...
     
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    I never commented on the core topic of this thread. I'm only pointing out, yet again, your ridiculous demands that people go out do all the work for you, which is nothing more than a deflection. Again, go look at his FB page. If it says what others are claiming it will be rather difficult for you to deny the truth. That's the real reason you won't go look.
     
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    You quoted the Eisenhower incident which proves you wrong. He signed an executive order that overrode the Governor who had previously used the guard to block blacks from entering the school. Reading comprehension must not be your strong suit. You can go ahead and admit you were wrong now.
     
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    I only ask if one makes a claim, to back up the claim.
    And giving some link without what to look for in that link is worthless. I won't research through long articles trying to figure out what one is trying to convey.
    If one posts a link, show what in the link makes one's point.

    If one is to lazy to back up their claim, don't make the claim. It is no one's responsibility to back up a claim than the 1 making it.

    And your opinion about what I do on FB is meaningless.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    It said he sent in the 101st Airborn, if memory is correct. That's not the NG.

    Yep, he sent in the 101st.
    Federal duty[edit]
    Title 10 service means full-time duty in the active military service of the United States. The term used is federalized. Federalized National Guard forces have been ordered, by the President to active duty either in their reserve component status or by calling them into Federal service in their militia status.[24] There are several forms:

    • Voluntary Order to Active Duty.
    Federalized with the soldier's or airman's consent and the consent of their Governor.
    • Partial Mobilization.
    In time of national emergency declared by the President for any unit or any member for not more than 24 consecutive months.
    • Presidential Reserve Call Up.
    When the President determines that it is necessary to augment the active forces for any operational mission for any unit or any member for not more than 270 days.
    • Federal Aid for State Governments.
    Whenever an insurrection occurs in any state against its government, the President may, upon the request of its legislature or of its governor call into Federal service such of the militia of the other states. This is a statutory exception to the PCA
    • Use of Militia and Armed Forces to Enforce Federal Authority.
    Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, assemblages, or rebellion make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any state or territory, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any state. This is another statutory exception to the PCA.
    • Interference with State and Federal law.
    The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a state, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy.
    • Air and Army National Guard.
    Air and Army National Guard can specifically be called into Federal service in case of invasion, rebellion, or inability to execute Federal law with active forces.
    In the categories listed above, Army and Air National Guard units or individuals may also be mobilized for non-combat purposes such as the State Partnership Program, humanitarian missions, counter-drug operations, and peacekeeping or peace enforcement missions.[24]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natio...d_States#National_Guard_active_duty_character

    Yes, you were right. They can be federalized.
     
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    Your indoctrinated bias aside, you might be interested to know that fascism is defined as a system of government. A couple dozen anarchists tired of conservative made up crap hardly constitutes a system of government.
     
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    As a child during WW2, Berkley was not the way it today is. Berkeley once stank. The bay was loaded with feces. I used to joke with a girl i knew (we both were maybe 10 if that) by calling the smell of the Bay, "Jackie's perfume" It did not please her and i was too young to think of girls in that way. They were just kids to me.

    Berkeley as a college once was revered. It morphed over time to a Demmocrat fortress. If you accepted their ideas, you would not get beaten up. Ann Coulter learned the hard way you approach Berkeley as if it is San Quinton Prison, not some university. You enter dreading the clubs and fires.

    The city over time got ruined. Mind you this city does not have those lovely tract homes so common in areas to the east and north and south. These are WW1 types of house. I have appraised many of them so just accept the city is one few want to live in. They only have rent control due to the university.

    As a teen in high school, we got the assignment to ride the school bus and do the honor guard duty. I was then in the cadet corps and wore the normal Army uniform.

    I enjoyed the flag duty there. Saw one heck of a track meet. The university impressed me. I later revisited aiming to get into nuclear physics. My grades were not up to Cal's standards. i played around my early HS years. A Japanese lad wanted to teach me chess and he decided to make me into a good student. And i did a lot better. I finally was beating him at the game so i was learning too. More than my parent, he gets the credit for my much improved grades. But still Cal was not happy. I then went to CSM where they told us they were the equal of Cal. Well, sadly I ran out of money too soon to finish.
     
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    @dairyair

    I read how lousy Breitbart is.

    Pick out any article. I would love for you to explain to us how the Breitbart article is so bad you really come down on it.
     
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    Ok you bored people stop fencing with semantics gosh.

    Now as to the OP.. I guess because it's CA it's ok for a Mayor to be associated with an absolutely nutter left Extremist group like BAMN? I researched the Berkeley chapters leader and Holy moly... She is outright crazy. Certifiable. Engages in violence and then... Goes on national TV and advocates violence? And she is a middle school teacher.

    No I'm sorry look we all need to come to grips with the hard reality that California may well be lost to us as part of the Union.

    I'm not kidding don't they have a vote soon on leaving? Well maybe the states should ratify their decision if they decide to go... On the condition they take all the rest of the left wing terrorists with them.
     
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    KPIX, local TV news did not cover that.

    They did cover the students committing mayhem and how the Mayor talked trash against Milo Yiannopoulos.
    Some students objected and guess what? That was the big story for KPIX. The tweets and e mails was more than KPIX could stand so they reported it. But their sympathy clearly is for the mayor who needs to get fired.

    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...ath-threats-in-wake-of-yiannopoulos-violence/
     
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    Sticks and stones.

    Well you're out of touch with reality. There have been several Berkeley riots and they have all been antics of the left. And if you don't know what a fascist is, Google it.
     
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    I didn't donate either. I think it counts anyway...
     
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    I've though about that one too... just let them go. Or let KJU test his missiles on San Francisco.

    Seriously, they believe they are an economic force that we cannot get along without - and they certainly have been in the past. But this I swear - when you go to CA it is like a completely foreign country. People are chaotic, rude and contemptuous of procedures and laws. The foreigners outnumber the citizens - and they are not naturalized and bring their third world ways: bringing down all that used to be beautiful. I compare the state to a beautiful old building that instead of being kept up and restored, is being allowed to fall into a decrepit shame.

    You know why the 1%ers don't care? They are moving to other states and taking their wealth with them.
     
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    He hit "like" on a couple of facebook posts.

    Get over it
     
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    So hitting like on a couple of facebook posts from neo nazis is fine for a mayor of a large american community is fine by you.

    Good to know
     
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    You actually have a point for once.

    And yes...the neonazi Trumpers who were involved in that street brawl were every bit as bad as the Antifa types
     
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    I have seen one picture of a guy with his hand in the air.

    The people in that brawl were supporters of free speech and some were Trump supporters you have no evidence of neo nazis. They were also attacked by antifa which makes antifa guilty not the free speech supporters
     

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