Best home defense weapon

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  1. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Plywood and some extra reinforcing wall beams if I remember correctly.

    No idea how must he spend however it did not look all that costly.

    I do remember teasing him over it when he was doing the work and yet he was right and I was wrong.
     
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    You might want to price it at Home Depot or Lowes.
     
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    No one 'wishes' to have a firefight in their home or around their children. But better that than the invaders just shooting you.
     
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    Or get you killed, the key to winning in home defense is stealth, the only sound and hopefully the last sound a criminal should hear, is the sound of the first round going off.
     
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    Yes, compromising a security system is not all that difficult to do.
     
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    Yes, when seconds count, the police are only minutes or sometimes hours away.
     
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    With many alarms it can be done with a device that can be had on e-bay for $75.

     
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    That's an old Nam myth, .22 doesn't tumble it will do a through and through on limbs unless it hits bone, it may not make it through the torso though due to a lack kinetic energy.
     
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    One major problem with .22 rim-fires is failing to fire, which is very rare in center-fire.

    Last thing one needs is to aim down on a bad guy the gun goes click, instead of bang.
     
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    I have 11 dogs and a 9mm for home defense..
     
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    They have a place in home defense if charged with the correct ammunition.

    Revolvers can jam when the operator is under a great deal of stress, commonly due to partial trigger pulls.

    bquote] Alternate a between ordinary ball and shedder/wadcutter/hollow point.[/quote]

    Not a good idea, mixing up the ammo can cause a loss of accuracy, always stay with the same type of ammo and train only with that ammo.

    [bquote]No handgun unless you have an instant-on laser grip such as a crimson trace. Most people can hide a cow at 20 feet in a panic. No laser grip, no pistol.[/quote]

    That doesn't make sense, a laser is not going to locate a target, a visual of the target must be obtained, then and only then shall a laser be illuminated to indicate where the round will hit.

    Also in a dark location a laser can give away the location of the good guy and get him killed.

    1911's are single action all the time, that is why they are carried round in chamber, with the hammer cocked, safety on.

    As for forgetting something, not quite sure what you mean?

    Nothing wring with a pump action if ready, that is to say pumped, round in chamber and safety on.

     
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    I have 11 9mm's and a dog.

    Actually, not long ago, I had a friend ask me my ideas on home defense. I told him my wife has a 9mm on her side of the bed. I have a 9mm on my side of the bed. I also have a 38 snub nose and an AR on my side of the bed and an 870 shotgun in the corner. My friend asked what I was afraid of. I told him not a damn thing.
     
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    But seriously, where I live, grabbing your phone and calling police won't accomplish much. In the 20-30 minutes it would take them to arrive the bad guys would already be dead.
     
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    I have a small pile of rocks, a cellphone and a dog.
     
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    After significant research on the matter, the conclusion reached is that the semi-automatic rifle, particularly a carbine, qualifies as the closest there is to a "best" firearm for home defense. Other firearms are close, but they are merely substitutes.
     
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    What about an AR15? For close quarters....
    https://radioviceonline.com/departm...rt-rifle-ar-15-suitable-for-personal-defense/
     
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    On my research on the issue, I've come to that same conclusion. That said, a shotgun or semi-automatic handgun is almost as good, followed by a revolver. None of those 4 choices are bad, IMHO. The AR type rifle in .223/5.56mm is the best choice, if loaded with highly frangible bullets. Why? a combination of ease in aiming, ease in maneuvering, less danger to other occupants of house, low recoil, and good magazine capacity.
     
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    I would also add, shotguns are great for home defense, but the idea of racking one to scare a invader is Hollywood pap, there are many criminals out there that would have no idea what that sound is, but doing so eliminates one of the best tools a homeowner has, stealth. Racking a shotgun, like a laser sight quickly identifies the location of the good guy to the bad guy and is a damm good way to take incoming fire and get killed.
     
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    Good points, however frangible bullets are not good for self defense, they are designed to breakup when hitting a backstop and will do a through and through on a body, plus they will not breakup going through drywall, as such they provide little down range safety, with poor stopping power ballistics.

    A much better choice would be to use something like Hornady TAP which was developed as law enforcement ammunition, it comes in two flavors. One which has a plastic tip is "law enforcement only" and a civilian version. The tipped version is designed to punch through drywall and stay reasonably intact delivering as much ballistic damage to the bad guy on the other side, the other is designed for a direct hit and the maximum amount ballistic damage.

    Both are designed to deliver as much energy into the target and if passed through be less than lethal downrange.
     
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    The best weapon is the one you are familiar with. I keep a Glock G19 handy. I want to install Truglo TFX night sights. It has a 15 rd capacity and is easy to hide or lock up if needed when my granddaughter is visiting. I can have it ready in 3-4 seconds from a dead sleep. I keep it under a bedside table with a magnet.

    I also have a Mossberg 500 with 7 + 1, but it's not as convenient to keep by the bed.

    I have a stripped AR lower and I'm considering building a pistol. I hear .300 Blackout and 9mm can use the same supressor and that would make them more fun to shoot and it might help save what hearing I have left.
     
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    The Hornady TAP is a frangible bullet.
     
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    I agree 100% that the "slide racking" causes instant surrender myth is silly. Laser sights, unless you are in a foggy environment, aren't going to identify your location (a flashlight will).
     
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    Lasers don't work in the fog that well along when it's raining.

    It's why we have laser weapons but have not been deployed on warships, they just don't work all of the time in an maritime environment.
     
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    Is there a difference of effectiveness in wet environments, compared to wet environments with a high sodium content?
     

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