Biden’s ‘kids in cages’ prove his hypocrisy on immigration.

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    His press secretary said they "revamped" the facility. I guess that makes it OK then. Don't forget we are dealing with the hypocritical left
    Kids in cages for thee but not for me!
     
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    Of course it makes it okay!
     
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    Really? Actually, I was under the impression that we are dealing with the totally NON-hypocritical left! :roflol:
     
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    Why, yes. Biden's "summer camps for kids" are totally humanitarian and don't resemble Trump's "interment camps". Not. at. all.

    LOL

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    Look, it really is VERY simple! The media criticised Trump for putting "kids in cages." Do you acknowledge that?

    That doesn't mean that Trump deliberately didn't deport criminals. It could be that there was more of them under Obama, therefore more of them to deport. There could have been a backlog.

    What's the relevance of COVID?

    And the media said nothing under Obama. What does that tell you?

    Are you referring to ALL illegal entries, or just those claiming asylum?
     
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    This is std politics. Hasn't changed since politics was invented.
    About half of the world would designate themselves as 'refugees'
    if it meant living in the west. Let's not forget that.
     
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    After all, the WEST is the BEST!
     
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    1. Nothing about our immigration policies is simple. Of course the media critized the Trump administration's separation policy! Geebus, Chris, it was draconian, it was cruel, and they even admitted that the cruelty was the point of the policy. They saw it as a deterrent, even though it deterred very few, if any.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/the-cruelty-is-the-point/572104/

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...ut-family-separation-worse-column/4244461001/

    "The administration crafted a “zero-tolerance” policy, which would knowingly rip children from their parents before prosecuting them, all as a means of frightening adults from coming to the country. Most troubling was the fact that, according to the report, senior Justice Department officials still barreled ahead in spite of warnings that the government was well aware of the likely tragic fallout of the policy."

    2. If there were more criminally bent illegals under Obama, doesn't that mean that Trump's fearmongering was more rhetoric than fact? You aren't making sense on that one. My point was that the Obama administration was more effective in handling illegals and deporting those with criminal backgrounds. Since Trump hated them more than Obama, why is that? You would think that Trump would be busing tens of thousands back to the border every few months.

    3. The relevance of COVID is that fewer people were showing up at the border. The strife they were fleeing was at a low, because even cartel thugs want to survive this common ordeal.

    4. The media said plenty about detainees and deportations under Obama, the pressure of which got him to create DACA. Look it up for yourself, if you care to.

    5. Yes, I was referring to all illegals.
     
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    Well this is sure a pivot from the open borders talking point.
     
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    Do we know if Biden's administration is separating children from their parents the way trump did?
     
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    What does that have to do with conditions for the kids in those facilities?
     
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    ahhhhhhhhhhhh, a lot.
     
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    Like .......... what?
     
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    My question wasn't are children being detained. My question was are the children being separated from their parents. I consider that a big difference.
     
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    The difference is The Trump administration arrested the parents and then deported them. Children couldn't be held in an adult detention center so they wound up in the holding facilities left by the previous administration. Biden doesn't arrest parents, he just turns them all loose. The kids in detention are unaccompanied. Why doesn't he just turn them loose too, they made it all the way here on their own, wink, wink.
     
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    The pedo should be impeached
     
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    Guess we can also say now "they were ripped from their mothers arms"!
     
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    From what I have heard most are unaccompanied minors, They were separated before they got here. Return 'em. It's the only humane thing to do.
     
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    Well actually, my understanding is that these current kids came into the country unaccompanied.
     
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    It's not, but it's still "kids in cages" isn't it?
     
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    You didn't answer the question. Again, The media criticised Trump for putting "kids in cages." Do you acknowledge that?

    How could the senior Justice Department officials have NOT barreled ahead? They were ordered to do it weren't they?

    Did Trump say that there were more criminals aliens coming in under him than Obama?
    Wasn't Trump's basic immigration rhetoric, it was a disaster under Obama with lots of criminals. There will be alot less under me?

    Well there wasn't ZERO being deported under Trump was there? As for why there was less? Well again, it could be that there
    was more of them under Obama, therefore more of them to deport. There could have been a backlog.

    So then why do you suppose the same people who criticised Obama, didn't give Trump credit for deporting less people than Obama?

    The problem is, that the source which you provided, was specific to asylum seekers:
    This was in support of your comment:


     
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    If you and I live in cages I'd have to say yes, it's kids in cages.
     
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    Where do you keep them till the next bus goes out to return them?
     

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