Biden admin ‘pauses’ controversial Disinformation Governance Board: report

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Pauses as in governmentspeak "kills". As the article reports the Minister of Truth has her letter of resignation already written. So how about the person who came up with this idea in the first place they have no business being in government.

    "The Biden administration has reportedly paused its controversial plans for a Disinformation Governance Board after facing criticism from free speech advocates and conservatives.

    The Homeland Security board was set to be led by director Nina Jankowicz and had a mandate to fight the spread of “disinformation” that “can affect border security, Americans’ safety during disasters, and public trust in our democratic institutions.”

    But following a backlash from Republicans and some liberals, who likened the board to an Orwellian “ministry of truth,” the Washington Post reported on Wednesday that the initiative has been put on hold.

    The DHS decided to shut down the board on Monday and Jankowicz had written a resignation letter by Tuesday, according to the report. DHS officials then reportedly gave Jankowicz the opportunity to stay on and she is currently evaluating her options, the Washington Post reported. "
    https://nypost.com/2022/05/18/biden-admin-pauses-disinformation-governance-board-report/
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look, lets be clear here, this all started when conservatives wanted to get rid of the fairness doctrine. YES, this was a bad idea to start a "disinformation governance board" for the very reason that everyone stated when it was announced. But the fairness doctrine had value in that it stopped exactly what is happening today in our society

    SOMETHING has to be done here to somehow quell the levels of disinformation that is being spread, especially by the talking heads. It used to be the talking heads were seen as just that, "talking heads" with an agenda, but in the last 10 years, their messages are being amplified by their entire networks, not just the political shows, , under the guise of the trust of "its a network, they are telling some truths". The lies get told, then they get told over and over by everyone on that specific network, and then somehow they just become fact. We literally have networks today that are purpose built to push a political message. Fox News, or MSNBC do not exists if there is a fairness doctrine.

    And with the growth of social media, the lies get amplified to a level of farce, but the low information masses eat it up like Soylent green. Social media gives everyone a voice, but the real problem is that everyone believes those voices. As a society we are doomed because all we really consume anymore is a formulated message designed to create a pre-determined outcome.

    YES, we need a something to stop the disinformation, but Joes board isnt it
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm guessing Biden & Co got really embarrassed when Jancowica's history came out and that was the final straw. They know she's a far out nutty loon but can't admit it because that would be an admission they didn't do their homework.
     
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    No let's be fair about this has nothing to do with the fairness doctrine which does not even apply to social media or print or cable TV. This is about leftist who can't compete in the realm of political discourse and want to ensure their propaganda is protected. The government has no business here and ESPECIALLY the person they were putting in charge. Good riddence to both.
     
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    And the question will remain is whoever came up with this absurd idea still feeding at the taxpayer trough?
     
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    And she will be given some useless, no-show job in order to retain the salary
     
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    I don’t think it’s a bad idea, but they had to know how it was gonna look and be spun. There isn’t enough faith in govt for this sort of idea. Just do it quietly.
     
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    I'm not seeing all the complainers about this giving credit to the Biden administration for reacting to the wishes of the American people, even if they were misguided.
    So, you criticize when they do something you don't like, but criticize when they correct it. No win situation for the politicians.
    Kind to like that erroneous tweet sent out the other day from the White House staff, but corrected in hours. Haters gonna hate, I guess.
     
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    I don't think they did. Otherwise, why did they do it? They just wanted to end up with egg on their face? The Biden administration is generally incompetent. This whole episode has done nothing but reinforce that conviction.
     
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    bahahahahahahaha

    What does lying and calling it news have to do with right/left or "political discourse" ?
     
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    The government has NPR it can use to get the message out and they are very one sided.
     
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    You don't get credit for doing damage control.
     
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    NPR is all Democrat all the time
     
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    Not nearly enough! Homeland Security needs eliminated. We don’t need it, never needed it. Over reaction by a well intended leader, but an over reaction!
     
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    What makes you think they didn't do their homework? This administration has pushed far left extremism in almost all of its nominees and well, if the D's lose the House/Senate they'll be less able to push the more extreme candidates to the front of our judiciary or the executive branch.
     
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    Doing it quietly is worse. Imagine, one day a post is removed due to 'disinformation', it will be then be like a Chinese-controlled Internet. This ministry board was an arguably unconstitutional idea and would be opposed 80/20 as only a few extremists among us want a Chinese-oriented government. This was the only possible outcome.
     
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    NPR isn’t effective at responding to foreign disinformation.
     
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    Yet you don’t want out govt to combat Chinese misinformation
     
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    What happened to 'Government Transparency'?

    Of course people have no trust in the government, and rightly so. They have not proven themselves, as individuals or a group, to be trustworthy.
     
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    Our government shouldn't be in the field or 'combating' misinformation. The point is, our first amendment is what makes us different from every other country in the world. Wanna know how you combat misinformation?(which is subjective in many occasions.) You combat it with the truth, and to keep relentlessly telling the truth.

    Sure, some people will never believe the truth but that can't be your problem or your obsession.(That's the problem with today's Democratic Party. They focus on irrelevant ****, and so the gas crisis, etc and stuff like that remain unattended to.)
     
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    As arrogant and bizarre as some of Trumps tweets were, what you request here is not applied across the board.
     
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    Fair point. But they have an obligation to counter foreign disinfo don’t they?
     
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    So if trump wins and China uses bots and paid media to claim he cheated, he shouldn’t respond or do anything to counter that narrative?
     
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    In a logical world, that would be the case. Unfortunately, that doesn't work for many, as they want to believe only what reinforces their already formed ideas.
    And I agree it shouldn't be an obsession, but what if it's a harmful lie? The 2020 election is a perfect example. Millions of people believe the 2020 election was stolen by Biden/Dems, but have actually no proof of it.
    But, that isn't what this proposed Board was intended for, it was to fight disinformation being spread to influence immigrants into the US, for example:
    "borders open! Bring the whole family, everyone is welcome to enter the US and there are jobs waiting!"
    Why would someone do that? Coyotes, for one, to make money from these people hoping for a better life. But it increases illegal immigration, so they wanted to try to cut down on that kind of stuff.
     
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    Yes, if they can prove that the actual information contains no basis in truth and emanates outside of the US.
     
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