Biden administration releases intelligence on Wuhan lab

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  1. Sleep Monster

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    Last March, House Republicans passed a law requiring that the Biden administration seek answer to the question of whether the COVID virus came from an animal host, or escaped from the Wuhan lab.

    Their findings: zilch. They still have no definitive proof either way.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/23/biden-administration-intelligence-wuhan-lab-00103523

    "... all agencies of the government “continue to assess that both a natural and laboratory-associated origin remain plausible hypotheses to explain the first human infection.”

    "The report also confirms the disagreement among U.S. agencies, with the National Intelligence Council and other intelligence agencies favoring the natural origin theory, while the FBI and Energy Department favor the lab leak hypothesis. The CIA has not taken a position."

    Of course not. ;-)

    The article includes a link to the 10-page report in PDF format.
     
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    So it looks like the WIV workers who got sick with cold/flu-like symptoms in November 2019, were not hospitalized, unlike the recent "bombshell" reports in the media indicated. Also, it seems that some of their symptoms were not typical for covid. Not surprising, though, the media always tries to muddy the waters for more clicks.

    Overall, however, I have to admit that this report is pretty weak. It doesn't contain much detail at all, especially on the genetic origin of the virus. The furin cleavage site has always been suspicious, being the same sequence as in the epithelial sodium channel ENaC, although recent work seems to indicate that it was unlikely to have been engineered:

    https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2211107119

    That leaves the possibility of natural evolution, but in the absence of close relatives, the origin is still unknown.
     
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    Biden should just ask China, then be like Trump

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/16/trump-putin-meeting-election-meddling-722424

    “My people came to me, [Director of National Intelligence] Dan Coats came to me and some others saying they think it’s Russia. I have President Putin, he just said it’s not Russia,” Trump said. “I will say this, I don’t see any reason why it would be.”

    "“I have great confidence in my intelligence people but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today,” Trump said."
     
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    Anyone denying this came from the lab are science deniers at this point. I mean we now know the first cases were lab workers for the love of god.
     
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    Yeah, the government would never lie. Right?
     
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    Biden ordered this lie to be told so he can protect his Chinese masters.
     
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    that was Trump, they were masters of, how many times did Trump praise their handling of Covid?

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    Trump didn't get paid by China.
     
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    Actually we don't. That is discussed in the report.
     
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    It's covered up by the report, you mean?...lol
     
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    Former US National Intelligence director John Ratcliffe, who had access to all intelligence during the rise of COVID-19, has said “My informed assessment as a person with as much access as anyone to our government’s intelligence . . . has been and continues to be that a lab leak is the only explanation credibly supported by our intelligence, by science and by common sense.”
     
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    Even if China wasn’t involved the US and all modern democracies should move away from purchasing goods and materials from that nation.
     
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    ya sure about that, his daughter got Trademarks, not sure if any cash traded hands
     
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    ......
     
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    No "we" don't. Even 'your' source did not say that
     
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    they wanted it released, now it's been released, now they are not happy it was released

    reminds me of the "memo", republicans went on and on about it, then it was released, and it was a nothing burger
     
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    Or just not political partisans believing only what a certain party tells them to believe.
     
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    Has he released this intelligence and science?
    So it can be determined if he used common sense.
     
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    Should have never opened up that much business there in the 1st place.
    Not sure what Nixon was thinking opening relations back in the 70s.
     
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    That isn't a bribe
     
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    Sure he did.
     
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    We do, you just don’t. Probably not covered in RW media.
     

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