Biden and election fraud

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Should Biden be disqualified or charged with election fraud

  1. Yes, disqualified and charged

  2. No, he was just kidding

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Today in NC, presidential candidate Biden told his followers to commit a federal crime by voting both by mail and in person:

    So let them send [mail in ballots] in and let them go vote, and if their system's as good as they say it is, then obviously they won't be able to vote. If it isn't tabulated, they'll be able to vote, If it's as good as they say it is, then obviously they won't be able to vote. If it isn't tabulated, they'll be able to vote. So that's the way it is. And that's what they should do”

    Voting twice is illegal.
     
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  2. GrayMan

    GrayMan Well-Known Member

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    Are you she he said that exactly or is this like when the news purposely misrepresents Trumps statements?
     
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  3. Rush_is_Right

    Rush_is_Right Well-Known Member

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    Wait, you argued with 21Bronco all day about Bidens mental faculties and then post this?
     
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    It was reported earlier that Trump made that statement to N.C. voters.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/02/us/politics/trump-people-vote-twice.html

     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He does sound like he is in serious mental decline — wouldn’t you agree?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh goodness, I appear to have made an error.

    Biden didn’t say this, trump did — if that changes your answer though... You are the opposite of a patriot
     
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    Rush_is_Right Well-Known Member

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    The posters here can decide for themselves if it is worth debating you.
     
  9. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The ones that initially read this and didn’t take two seconds to make a judgement because it confirmed their narrative, I have no desire to debate them — debate is a strong word for what they engage in however.

    I apologize for embarrassing you.
     
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    Kind of weird, I am not embarrassed. Should I be red faced, tuck my tail and run?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh that wasn’t what you did by asking me about my previous interaction with another poster, dodging the question I asked and saying posters will determine whether or not to “debate” me?

    Like I said, apologies — my beliefs are consistent.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so, so far, to delay counting votes, Trump has told foreign countries to send in fake ballots, tried to sabatoge the USPS and now tells people to vote twice

    what is next?
     
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    There is argument that the system should not let you vote again. It's better than putting people in jail but what are you supposed to do when you are voting by paper and mail?
    What really boggles my mind is how these old school methods are supported by progressives during the computer Era!

    There probably will be some unfortunate souls who will do what he is suggesting and end up going to jail for it...
     
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    I really cannot understand how he has any support — I guess the ends justify the means in their eyes.
    Even if I loved his policy I would be against this attempt to destroy our democracy.

    Washington predicted this disunion where party is placed over country.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most progressives that I have spoken with support a very secure multi-tiered electronic system but the difficulty is implementing it.

    Regressives are wholly against this however, or any advancement for that matter.
     
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    How many damn times does it have to be said, we don't live in a democracy!!???
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I completely agree with you.
    Congratulations.

    And yes, this is what I would call running — red faced even.
     
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    You really think it's an attempt to get more votes? I don't think so. I think he actually believes that this would test the integrity of the system and protect the voting process and doesn't understand that duplicate votes are reviewed and prosecuted after the fact. Aka ignorance
     
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    I do not pretend to know his intentions, it is however felony voter fraud as per NC 163-275 (7) It is a felony... For any person with intent to commit a fraud to register or vote at more than one precinct or more than one time, or to induce another to do so, in the same primary or election, or to vote illegally at any primary or election
     
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    Same but have you heard about Nancy's hair?????

    The right wing talk pundits are getting more pathetic every day lol
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have, it is more outrageous than 180,000 Americans!
     
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    Well based on my understanding of his Intent, as stated previously, he did not commit election fraud. As you stated, intent to commit fraud is a required component in the law. He is simply ignorant. If he intended to cheat the system and steal votes, I would not continue to support him but intent hasn't been proven. This is especially the case in this situation because the entire basis of his argument is to state his concern as to the integrity of the voting process and how it needs to be verified and addressed.
     
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    Glad I'm not the only one who sees it because I live in a deep red state and listening to them gives my flashbacks of my gaslighting ex wife lol
     
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    I like my States method, we put out votes on paper, then scan them into the system

    I think every state should have to count both manually and digitally and then verify the two separate counts match, if they do not, find out why

    can you imagine any bank only trusting digital and not bumping those number up against physical
     
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