Biden Could Be Forced To Testify In Trump Senate Impeachment Trial

Let me know when Trump's vast investigative and criminal resources, with the help of Ukraine, and the help of of China, are able to contrive a pretext for issuing a single criminal indictment of Biden.

After years of Republican-led congressional hearings and Fake Don leading hysterical mobs in screeching "Lock her up! Lock her up!", Hillary Clinton is still waiting for the braying pifflewits to put up or shut up.

There is a time to stop whining and get off the pot.

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The senate sending out subpoenas for the Biden, the whislteblower and others would be an almost certainty. However, I'm guessing the repubs will tell the senate dems that unless they join them in dismissing the impeachment as a sham, then they will call those people to testify, as well as others.

Adam Schiff cannot be allowed to refuse the House repubs from calling their own witnesses, or prevent them from asking questions of witnesses. The president deserves to have representation, and defend himself from all the hearsay testimony, and the speculation, biased opinions and accusations made him.

 

Unlike Trump, Hilary was actually guilty of violating federal laws, many times over. The corrupt Obama DOJ just refused to prosecute their chosen candidate for the 2016 presidential election.

Trump does not have to show the crimes Biden committed, just show a justification for why they wanted to look into when "Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution."

 

Biden never committed a crime. He was never actually under investigation. The investigation that Trump claims was about Biden was actually about Burshima's President who was laundering money for the Russia and Armenian mobs. That investigation was started in 2012, before Biden was ever hired to Burshima's board of directors.

And Viktor Shokin, the Prosecutor-General who Trump claims was fired to cover up an investigation into Hunter Biden, was also under investigation for a number of years for corrupton. He was taking bribes from various executives from companies under investigation to stall or kill the investigations. He was fired because of these bribes, and calls for him to be fired for being made well before Hunter Biden was hired by Burshima.

 

I was not trying to pick a fight, i thought that it was common knowledge that Kennedy, FDR, LBJ etc.... had abused their office and used administrative agencies like the IRS, FBI etc... to go after political enemies.

We don't find about their corruption until decades after it's too late do do anything about it. So if Obama abused the office, we won't know until he's been dead for decades.

Shocking IRS Witch Hunt? Actually, It’s a Time-Honored Tradition

 

Just pointing out that parents doing things to help out their children, is personal, that's all

 

Seems like you are trying to suggest that Biden fired the prosecutor looking into Burisma because Joe didn't think he was doing a thorough enough job. So Biden wanted an even more detailed criminal investigation into corruption of the company his son was working for?

 

they will never talk under oath, they would take the 5th, same as Biden would

Trump and his admin already refused to testify under oath

Trump set the Precedent, no President will ever again have to talk under oath.... or his administration

 

I would never have doubted for a minute that LBJ, et al, would use the IRS and any other agency available to 'go after' political enemies... but honestly, I have not seen anything like that about John F. Kennedy.

I'm not trying to "lionize" JFK... in our society, lions live in zoos, but men rule over other men in many ways, fair and unfair. But, I had not heard anyone suggest that JFK had used illegal, strong-arm tactics on anyone -- with the possible exception of organized crime! He and his brother, Bobby, really were committed to wiping the crime-bosses out....

 

Unless, or until you can find evidence that the president committed a crime, then it's wrong to try and force him to testify. Trump has committed no crime.

And please, don't bother us if all you have are some people who hate Trump, professing their speculative opinions about what they think Trump might have done or said. the same goes for if they are claiming to to read his mind try to tell us what they think Trump's secret thoughts or motivations were.

 

and you can't indict a sitting President... thus like I said, Trump set a precedent that no future President will ever be required to speak under oath

 

1; Briden didn't fire him. You seem to think the VP has the authority to fire foreign officials.

2; Ukrainian officials were calling for him to be fired well before Hunter Biden was ever hired by Burshima, or Joe Biden ever became involved. As were human rights activists from all over the worlds, due to the fact that Viktor Shokin was sabotaging war crimes trials for Ukrainian soldiers from the 2014 revolution.

3; According to the Ukraining PG office, there was NEVER any investigation into Hunter Biden. He was NEVER a suspect or person of interest during ANY investigation by their office.

 

I'm happily retired now, but I've heard from some of my younger, former colleagues that the word is already out in a number of different corporations that if any of the current Democrat candidates takes over the White House in 2021, there will probably be substantial layoffs and even more jobs transferred overseas.... Looks like Adidas has already gotten an early start, transferring American and German operations to Vietnam and, (you guessed it) CHINA!

Consider: in less than three years, under Trump the Dow Jones stock market average has gone up EIGHT THOUSAND POINTS! Does that mean Trump is some kind of 'genius'...? Hell, no -- it means that starting in August 2007, the Federal Reserve central bank has pumped the stock market to insanely-high levels, making the entire market grotesquely overvalued! The process rolled merrily along, but now the Fed has been 'outed' as a 'one-trick pony', relying on the generation of enormous amounts of dollars thrown out on the world at near-zero interest rates.

Neither Wall Street, nor any of these central banks in major countries around the world want some weird, confiscatory socialist takeover of the economy -- central banks reserve their power of control of 'the West's' economies exclusively. So, after "PUMP" comes "DUMP", and whoever the Democrat president in 2021 is, the economy will undergo a 'shake-out' far, far worse than anything that happened in 2008. Wait and see.

 

Parrots have been trained to repeat this lie, and shriek "Lock her up! Lock her up!" at pep rallies, but we are still a civilized nation where the law is respected. The impotence of the Trump regime in contriving any indictable offenses underscores their phoniness.

Ukraine getting rid of the corrupt prosecutor was the policy of the United States, the EU, the World Bank, and democratic reformers within Ukraine. That undeniable reality gifts the crackpots with a vast conspiracy to whine about while smearing a political opponent - as they apparently feel is demanded.

 

Why? Saying it doesn't make it true, but that is how Trumpets think. They rarely explain what they say. They think whatever they make up suddenly becomes true.

It's a moot point any way. In the first place, a vice-president cannot hold up funds approved by Congress and signed off by the President. Not even the President can do that.

In the second place, firing the inept prosecutor was the official position of the U.S., E.U., and the IMF.

The charge against Biden is ludicrous. I hope he is called as a witness, but I doubt it. Republicans aren't stupid. They know the Bidens have done nothing wrong.

 

Facing Trump's obvious guilt, the White House is tearing itself apart. The messy skirmish could be on full display this week.

The Post reports, "Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney has urged aides not to comply with the inquiry and blocked any cooperation with congressional Democrats. Top political aides at the Office of Management and Budget, which Mulvaney once led, have fallen in line with his defiant stance, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity to talk freely about the behind the scenes developments.

"Mulvaney’s office blames White House counsel Pat Cipollone for not doing more to block other government officials from participating in the impeachment inquiry, as a number of State Department officials, diplomats, and an aide to Vice President Pence, have given sworn testimony to Congress.

"Cipollone, meanwhile, has fumed that Mulvaney has only made matters worse with his Oct. 17 news conference, when he publicly acknowledged a quid pro quo, essentially confirming Democrats’ accusations in front of television cameras and reporters, and Cipollone did not want Mulvaney to hold the news conference."

The Times writes, "Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, on Monday abruptly withdrew his effort to join a lawsuit over impeachment testimony after a sharp collision with his colleague, John R. Bolton, the former national security adviser.

"Mulvaney’s retreat came hours after a lawyer for Mr. Bolton argued in court papers that the acting chief of staff should not be allowed to jump into the existing lawsuit as a plaintiff because his interests are significantly different. The legal schism underscored a broader rift between Mulvaney, who facilitated Trump’s effort to pressure Ukraine, and Mr. Bolton, who tried to resist it."

Trump and his Republican defenders are feuding. Current and former state department officials will testify on camera this week, relaying their firsthand accounts claiming Trump withheld military aid to get Ukraine to investigate the Bidens. Trump's own chief of staff confirmed that fact. On Twitter Trump warned his party that they should not “be led into the fools trap of saying it was not perfect, but is not impeachable.” Trump insists the call was "perfect."

Trump refuses to face reality. He incriminated himself as is proven in the transcript provided by the White House. The President cannot face that reality.

 

Ukraine's oligarchs are, if anything, even more powerful in their own little world than the Russian oligarchs are in theirs.... One thing you can say for Biden -- ol' Joe played those corrupt bastards in Kiev like a piano, and enormously enriched his cocaine-huffing child (who had been thrown out of the Navy Reserves) at the same time!

But, too bad for poor, ol' Geriatric Joe. It's over. He'll decide to, uh, withdraw from the race, probably sometime next spring -- after the half-assed attempt to remove Trump from office falls flat on its face. But who will the Democrats replace him with? Some kind of synthesis of Bozo the Clown and Karl Marx...?!

. "Give billions away to worthless bums and illegal aliens!"

 

Yes the Legislation has to get to the floor but it never will because Pelosi and Dems don't want Trump to get any "wins". Something I don't think cares about. He is just trying to keep his promises.

 

Well, I guess if an anonymous internet expert deems her and Biden guilty, that’s it. However back in the real world, why hasn’t Trump’s DOJ done jackshit about it for almost 3 years? When Trump’s DOJ arrests Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, get back to me. Otherwise I and other literate people will be left with no other choice than to assume you are full of crap spoon fed to you by lying scumbags like Sean Hannity, Breitbart and Alex Jones.

 

I don't see you challenging the evidence against Trump. Why? Because it is overwhelming?

The Democrats are just telling the truth, and you can't question what they are saying in the impeachment inquiry.

You are not alone. In the thread entitled "To impeach or not to impeach, that is the question" Trump's fans are avoiding the evidence along with everything else. They find other things to talk about.

 

Biden, concerning whom no criminal evidence has been contrived by the Trump regime, Ukraine, or China, is another desperate attempt at diversion from the impeachment inquiry.

Worshipers of the P*ssy Grabber should be aiming their sh!t volley at the dedicated public servants who are about to testify under oath about what they know.

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You're too funny. How long did it take Mueller to come up with nuthin? The indictments should start getting served around the end of September or October of 2020.

 

Couldn't have said it better.

 

Years of Republican fake claims of heinous, blatant crimes by Clinton and then Biden, yet not a single indictment as Trump takes a dump on the basic American principle of jurisprudence: "Innocent until proven guilty."

Your media entertainers can rage in proclaiming the guilt of Fake Don's political enemies, and the parrots can continually shriek the same.

Not even a single indictment despite the entire law enforcement apparatus at Fake Don's command.

 

Obama's puppet AG's wouldn't cooperate. But there's a new Sheriff in town.