Biden: End on-line sales of gun parts

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    From the BIden website:

    End the online sale of firearms and ammunitions. Biden will enact legislation to prohibit all online sales of firearms, ammunition, kits, and gun parts.
    https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/

    Someone...PLEASE... demonstrate the necessity for, and efficacy of, making it illegal for me to buy parts for my guns on line.

    PLEASE.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is where the slippery slope phenomena is headed. Once you cave in and say this should be banned, then you set a precedent for something else to be banned. And then once that's banned, it still leaves a "loophole" somewhere else that needs to be closed.

    Just one example of this is when they started banning guns to certain groups of people, it later started creating reason and impetus for new laws requiring gunowners to keep them locked up.
    When they required permits for carry of handguns (seemed a reasonable concession at the time), that then soon led to a required permit for carrying any type of gun.

    Or going further back in time, when a permit was only needed if that handgun was concealed. Why was that so bad, people asked. It was still possible to legally carry without a permit, and besides, most respectable people who had a gun had a car and no permit was needed to move around with as long as it was in the car. Well then you saw those "loopholes" quickly closed.
    When some gunowners started now openly carrying because that was the only way they could carry without a permit, it was seen as "scary", and they needed to put an end to that.

    All of these "compromises" are based on dishonest presuppositions. It was never about only a few "reasonable" restrictions.

    Each one of these laws then leads to a new situation that creates reason for more laws. It will not end.
    (In fact, even if all guns were completely banned, it won't even end there, as the situation in some other countries have demonstrated)
     
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    They deny what you just said is a slippery slope. They know they are full of it, but they deny it anyway. They rename what you just said as “necessary steps”, which is somehow not a slippery slope.

    Just a total rewrite of the definition of a slippery slope.
     
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    Seems like another loophole that needs to be closed if you can order gun parts without passing a background check.
     
  5. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Given your ignorance of the issue, this does not surprise me.
    Why should I need to pass a background check to buy a trigger?
    A bolt?
    A barrel?
    A firing pin?
    A stock?
     
  6. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Support your local gunsmith. Ain't the end of the world. He can order you the part.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Look at you, unable to meaningfully address the issue at hand.
    As usual.
     
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  8. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    The issue was buying guns and parts online - I gave you a viable alternative - you got snarky ... as usual.
     
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    How will such a restriction reduce crime?
     
  10. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    No one "needs" an alternative. Where will the gunsmith order the parts from? Online?

    Anyone who believes an all out ban is not the end goal is a - --- ----- --- - -- *opinion with held, I have enough infractions here.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What about tools that can be used to make the parts? BGC for those to?
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Yep - and you have failed to demonstrate the necessity for, and efficacy of, making it illegal for me to buy parts for my guns on line.
    You seem to support the idea, so tell us...
     
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  13. Daniel Light

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    No - I don't support the idea, I was just pointing out that your hair-on-fire response is a bit of an over-reaction. Were the
    people in the 1970's denied their basic 2nd Amendment rights because they couldn't buy online? I'm just pointing out there
    are other options, so your rights haven't been denied, just shifted back to a market that existed for the first 200 years of
    the existence of the 2nd Amendment.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Not in the slightest, as it is impossible to demonstrate the necessity for, and efficacy of, making it illegal for me to buy parts for my guns on line
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    "I'm sorry sir, you cant buy that grinder, welder, file or drill without a BGC from the FBI and NCIS" come back in 6 months.
     
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    A registered gun dealer can still buy, and order your parts. Why do you hate the small mom and pop gun dealers?

    Again, I don't support the ban (In fact, the only one who has signed a gun parts ban was The Donald) I'm just pointing out
    that the hair-on-fire freak out is a bit over the top since the parts are still available through other venues (except for the bump-stocks
    that The Donald outlawed).
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Oh wait, you cant use that internet device to type your post, we will need you to mail them in. After all, it wont be denying you your right to free speech.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    You saw that where? Or do you just assume that?

    Why do you beat your dog? Why do you hate someone who might need a screw or spring for great Grandpa's shotgun that may not be available within a 1,000 miles?

    You must support the ban, here you are defending it. But the good news is, it will never happen.

    Why do you love a dictator who would kill an industry and many thousands of jobs?
     
  19. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Many laws exist because of the possibility of people abusing privileges. It's what society decides is their limits. Just as we
    can't buy chemical weapons online because society had decided there is the possibility of threat. Those limits rise and
    fall with the length of time from the last mass shooting. Is what it is. Life isn't always fair, and democracy isn't
    a perfect concept.
     
  20. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    And again, I don't support the ban, I'm just pointing out the rationale behind it. I can understand things that I don't support.
    I'm sorry you can't figure that out - it's is beyond basic bumper-sticker logic, I know ... but tryyyyy.
     
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    You can stop right there bud, the second is a RIGHT....NOT a privilege.

    Society has not decided the online sale of parts is a threat, the Dictator yall voted for did that.
     
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    Go blow that smoke up someone else's ass. I understand a dictator when I see one, something you evidently cannot.
     
  23. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    The ONLY gun part restriction signed in the last 13 years was signed by the guy YOU voted for, dude. So don't
    get all pissy-pants with me.
     
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    Thank you for the confirmation that you cannot demonstrate the necessity for, and efficacy of, making it illegal for me to buy parts for my guns on line.
     
  25. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Since I don't support the ban, I guess that sort of explains why I didn't argue a necessity for it ... you really are having difficulties tonight
    with comprehension, aren't you?
     

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