Biden endorses Wall and rages against illegal immigration in 2006

Makes one wonder what he truly believes. In the video, he is against illegal immigration and voted for 700 feet of wall. Now, is he truly against a wall and for illegal immigration or is he following the extreme left doctrine? I think the latter.

Because, as Biden says: “Folks, I voted for a fence,” Biden can be heard saying, referencing his backing of the Secure Fence Act. “I voted, unlike most Democrats ― and some of you won’t like it ― I voted for 700 miles of fence. But, let me tell you, we can build a fence 40 stories high ― unless you change the dynamic in Mexico and ― and you will not like this, and ― punish American employers who knowingly violate the law when, in fact, they hire illegals.

 

A lot of Democrats favored the wall and stopping illegal immigration in the 1990s and early 2000s. But that was before they discovered there could be many potential Democrat voters there, and before Trump favored the wall.

 

This highlights that the dems only took their flip flop stance because trump was for it.

 

Notice that one can be tough on illegal immigration without the bigoted rhetoric of the KKK endorsed Narcissistic Sociopath Donnie, the worst president ever.

 

It's illegal for illegal citizens to vote in federal elections

 

It is also illegal to be an illegal.

 

Did you come up with that all by yourself?

 

How stupid do you conservatives think everybody who's not you is? You can't vote in elections without being registered to vote and you can't register to vote unless the Board of Election Supervisors, a local board, approves you. Do you honestly expect us to believe they are ALL in the pay of George Soros and the Illuminati and NOBODY has ever been caught at it?

Conservatives are truly beyond belief.

 

So we should pretend that the legal Mexican citizens arent going to vote for the party that let's their family and friends in?

 

It does not always seem that obvious when you read a lot of the posts.

It is not that hard to get fake IDs which allows you to get a US citizen drivers license and a drivers license which shows you to be a US citizen will allow you to register to vote.

 

That’s probably a new issue. Not like illegals have been coming into the US for decades. Amright???

 

Oh fer....

How often do you suppose that happens? How often do you think illegal immigrants go to all that trouble and take all that risk for virtually nothing?

Contrary to what you seem to think illegal immigrants come here because they are desperate to find work and/or a safe environment. The last thing they want to do is risk incarceration and then deportation just to be able to illegally vote.

 

But then they're going to vote for the party that kicks their relatives out?

Or are you saying that now we should kick out American citizens with Mexican relatives too? Finally, an honest Trumper. Blacks back to Africa next then on to the Papists right?

 

Or wait, maybe you're not a Trumper. I apologize if that's the case. There are so many here, I just assume.

 

So what?

That was 14 years ago.

Maybe his opinion changed?

 

Most likely his party changed and he "had" to get with the program. Typical flip flopping like Hillary. I may not like Trump as a person, but his views haven't changed in the last 30 years. He sticks to what he believes in.

 

Are you guaranteeing that it never happens?

 

Why should I have to? Some elections are very close, yes, but elections that are determined by hundreds are relative rarities even for very small and local offices.

Again, WHY would anyone do what you're suggesting? Why do you think someone would take considerable risk of really substantial legal penalties even if they're NOT an illegal immigrant to begin with? I can't help but think that anyone who would do that to cast ONE vote has serious mental problems

Republican voter suppression OTOH, affects literally thousands of people.

 

You were the one making the claim.

 

Can you provide verifiable factual data showing how many illegals have obtained a fake ID then used that fake ID to register to vote then actually voted in a federal election?

 

No. For the simple reason that it is nearly illegal to conduct a large scale investigation to determine whether such things do exist. We really don't know.

 

It's illegal to crack down on fake IDs?

 

No. In order to do an extensive investigation of voter fraud, you have to do an investigation of the voter rolls and then you have to verify whether the person on those voter rolls who showed up at the polls is the person who legally registered. It requires considerable investigation which is an invasion of privacy. In short, we do not know whether considerable voter fraud exists.

 

And yet that doesn't stop certain people from believing considerable fraud does exist. Go figure

 

My point earlier was that it is not that hard to get a phony ID and vote. It does not involve that much risk because the cross checking required to verify whether there is voter fraud does not exist. It would be similar to leaving the bank doors open, stopping all accounting of funds, remove all the cameras and then claim the bank was not robbed because there was no evidence of a robbery.