Biden not yet holding a formal news conference raises accountability questions

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  1. CenterField

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    I was, but then, I'm not a Democrat, so you do have a point. It was still wrong to do it only partially and without mandatory quarantine. 40,000 people came in from China and seeded the virus everywhere. A president shouldn't need the opposing party to ask for the right action. A president is the leader and he should be the one implement the right action. I'm sure the president of Uruguay and the Prime Minister of New Zealand didn't consult the US Democratic Party to implement their real bans.
     
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    Sure, but what it means is that it would have been no different under a Democrat. It's simple: your governments, state and federal, just don't like proper travel bans. Freedom of travel obviously means too much to you people to stop it completely. We in Australia even had internal travel bans between states! Each state was acting like a separate country.
     
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    Even though he did everything that his experts told him to do.
     
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    Trump held one SOLO press conference in a whole year, which is irrelevant. If Biden's first press conference was JOINT, it would not have mattered. And if he held a JOINT press conference before I started this thread, then the thread wouldn't have been started!
     
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    So it doesn't matter what the consequences are to someone taking responsibility and making a decision? Would it not have been better for Bush to NOT have invaded the wrong country?
     
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    That's going back a few years.
     
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    That would mean that he wouldn't have executed the '15 days to stop the spread' plan. He has previously said a number of times that his experts told him to not ban travel from China, but I think that's BS. I haven't seen any evidence of that. Who the hell knows with Trump. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him - which isn't very far. So no different to my position on all politicians.
     
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    What possible reason could they have had for not sharing the information they had?
     
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    True. Our love for freedom, which normally I praise, worked against us this time.
     
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    Not according to his own words
     
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    Of course it would have been. But at least he has the balls to take responsibility. How you can worship a guy that does not have that boggles my mind
     
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    Yep, it has been a while
     
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    Do you mean Bush took the blame, or he took responsibility by simply making the decision to go to war?

    There you go again, accusing me of Trump worship with no basis! Perhaps you missed what I said above, when I said that "I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him - which isn't very far."
     
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    His words, which for some reason you believe! :roflol:

    If he ignored everything which his experts told him to do, then why the hell did he execute the '15 days to stop the spread' plan and extend it?
     
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    He took responsibility for making the decision to go to war.

    And yet you have spent the last week defending him as if he were you own child...just weird.

    Even liars tell the truth some of the time. I believed him because those words matched his actions.

    Because even that was done in a half ass way and he was still downplaying it at the same time
     
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    And Trump took responsibility for making the decision to stop the spread. He also took responsibility for making all of the decisions which you supported throughout his Presidency. Yet you are forgetting about them and only focusing on COVID, even though he cannot be faulted other than his terrible rhetoric and messaging.

    So you only support people who you "worship?"

    Don't actions speak louder than words?
     
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    Yes, Trump took credit for something he did not do and said this about the deaths..."I take no responsibly at all".

    He took no responsibility any of the decisions throughout his Presidency. He blamed everyone and anyone and never once took responsibility for a single negative/wrong thing. This will be a shock to you, but he is not a god and he is not perfect

    They do, thus when Trump said he did the opposite of what his experts told him to do I believe him because his actions back up that claim. Though as much as you defend the man I am sure you will now tell me his experts told him to mock people for wearing a maks.

    I do not blindly and with such zeal defend anyone in the manner you do Trump. It is rather startling to watch, but we are all sort of used to it
     
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    Which is what?

    Yeah, because he's NOT responsible for the deaths! Is Biden responsible for the deaths which have occurred since January 21?

    And you're contrasting this to Bush making the wrong decision to go to war? Sorry, but you just aren't making any sense.

    Well THAT'S putting it lightly! He must be the most immoral President since Kennedy!

    Which actions back up that claim? I thought that your whole point is that he TOOK NO actions during COVID! So which is it? Did he act or did he not act?

    No, but did they specifically tell him to NOT mock people for wearing masks?

    Does the below sound like blindly defending with zeal to you?

    "I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him."
     
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    Both men made mistake, one had the balls to take responsibility for those mistakes while the other one did not.

    How is this confusing for you? Do I need to type slower?

    You say that but then defend the man to your dying breath. Your actions do not match those words.

    Not acting is an action. Holy **** dude. You are getting desperate here.

    I am done with this thread.

    Have a great day!
     
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    Except he DID take action! '15 days to stop the spread' plus extension! :roflol:
     
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    You already said that you're NOT talking about Bush taking the blame for making the decision to go to war.
     
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    How true. I hate to see people suggesting that we should employ authoritarianism because Uruguay and New Zealand do.
     
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    Taking blame/taking responsibility. Same basic thing.

    How pathetic that you are now resorting to silly semantic games.

    How soon till you tell me again you have proven your point and declare yourself the winner?
     
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    So you're for or against COVID travel bans?
     
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    You said, "he took responsibility for making the decision to go to war."
     

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