Biden now wants to RESTART construction on Trump’s border wall to ‘plug gaps’ DHS head Mayorkas says

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  1. rkhames

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    That was the way President Trump had things set up. Asylum courts conducted in Mexico instead of allowing them in through Obama's catch and release program, and then hold courts in the US. More times then not, the so-called asylum seekers did not bother to show up for their court date. Why? Because they knew that they had no grounds to support their claims. They should have been rounded up and sent home, but that is not the liberal way.

    BTW, I am not missing anything about this issue. The system was working under the Trump Administration, and now it is not under the Biden Administration. This mess is Biden's fault, and anyone with at least half a brain knows it. Please, read my posts before claiming that I am missing something.
     
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    I think a lot of people missed a key point that sleep/creepy Joe said during his only press conference. He said that all those coming here illegally will be sent back. Of course he did not explain how he was going to do that after they disappear into our communities. Or how they are going to accomplish that when communities are giving them sanctuary.
     
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    Gov Abbott says? Where's the numbers to back up the claim. I won't take his biased word.

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    And after April 2020, the chart shows a steep ascent of immigrants. As I said, the uptrend started in 2020.
    And Feb, March, and April of 2020, Covid was taking hold on the world and all migrations of most every type took a huge downturn.

    Biden didn't implement any policies until late Jan 2021.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Send back they will not be, a path to citizenship offered they will. A dumbing down of Amerika continue must go on!
     
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    Typical liberal post. I brought you to the water, but you refused to drink. I provided you with a link to the numbers that prove what Abbott said, and you refused to read them. Now, your back to parroting the unsubstantiated claim of the Lamestream media. Do you really think that those from Central and South America want to trust in their third world medicine to protect them from Covid-19, or would they rather come to the US for help? The real deal is that they knew that they would never make it into the US while President Trump was President. The surge resumed in April (not September as you previously claimed) due to the fact that the Biden was well ahead in the DNC Delegate count, and President Trump had been impeached. It was clear to those in Central and South America that Biden would be the next President, and he had promised to remove all President Trump restrictions at the border.

    Here are the DNC Delegate numbers to support the real reason for the renewal of the surge:
    RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 — Democratic Delegate Count

    And here is the numbers that shows the surge of illegals at our southern borders:
    Southwest Land Border Encounters | U.S. Customs and Border Protection (cbp.gov)

    The facts are laid out before you. Will you look, or keep repeating the lamestream media?
     
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    Abbott gave no numbers in your link. If he did, I didn't see them.
    Why don't you show me in the link about how many people are being released into the country untested for covid.


    ...
    Election 2020 — Democratic Delegate Count
    Map | Dem Popular Vote | Latest 2020 Polls
    Your 1st link, what does this have to do with the topic of Abbott's statement about the amount of immigrants being released into the USA untested?

    From your 2nd link:
    For a breakdown of encounters by USBP Sector and OFO Field Office, visit Southwest Land Border Encounters (By Component), U.S. Border Patrol Southwest Border Apprehensions by Sector, and Southwest Border Inadmissibles by Field Office.
    ...

    What does that link prove about the number of immigrants being released into the USA untested?

    If the numbers you and Abbott are claiming are in there, point them out. I can't find them.
     
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    Yes, typical liberal response. Asking for proof of a claim. And never getting proof from those non liberals making a claim.

    Here are your words about illegals being released into the country spreading covid.
    So, what are the numbers being released untested?

    The link to Abbott you gave says this in the 1st 2 paragraphs.
    He makes a claim without substantiating it. And you are doing the same.
     
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    So, you did not even read the CNN article that I provided. If the DHS was trying to provide the Governor of Texas test kits and money to test and treat illegals that had been released in Texas Communities, then it stands to reason that they have not been tested. Abbott was further talking about the high numbers of illegals coming into this country. So, I provided you some accurate numbers to counter the lame BBC graph that you obviously can not read. In the first post that I responded to, you claimed that there was no dip in the surge, and that it picked up in September. In case you have not heard, September is past the middle of the year, and the lowest point on the BBC graph is before the middle of the year. So, your analysis of the graph is false. I have provided you with the facts. Now, try reading them.
     
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    I have provided you with the answers, and where they come from. If you call that not getting an answer, then the problem is not from the conservatives that respond to you. It is with yourself.
     
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    If by dodging and deflection is providing proof. Yes you did.

    But you never backed up yours and Abbotts claim about immigrants being released into USA untested for Covid.

    And I see you didn't bother yet again. So, it seems you both are making it up at this point.
     
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    Not read it?
    I provided the 1st 2 paragraphs to your link.

    No mention about how many immigrants are being released into the USA untested for Covid.

    It its there, I missed it. If I missed it and you seen it, you can quote the exact paragraph that is in your link so I and everyone else can see what your claim actually is.

    You've been acting all trumpian in all your claims.
    Maybe you'll provide the greatest numbers ever. Your working on them and they will be released in 2 weeks. Congrats trump supporter.
     
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    All you have to do is apply an ounce of common sense. Why would the DHS be offering Texas test kits and money to test and quarantine those illegals that arrive in their communities infected with Covid-19? If they were tested before being released, then why would they be need to be tested after being released? Answer to both Questions: They wouldn't. Governor Abbott stated that these illegals are being release without testing. The actions by the DHS proves that to be true. If you can't see that, I can't help you. I have brought you to the water, and the only thing you have done is prove that the horse is not the only animal that will not drink.
     
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    You have argued two separate points. One was about illegals being released in Texas without testing. For that I provided the CNN article. The other issue was actually the first one that I addressed of yours. That was your false claim that the surge did not end in 2019, and then renew in April 2020. You are the one that told me to see the BBC graph that you posted on page 4. That is why I provided the Southern Border Encounter numbers. That shows that your analysis of the BBC graph was completely false. Two separate topic. and two separate responses. Now your trying to claim that I am deflecting the issue when it is you that can not keep the issues separated in your mind.

    If this is the best you can do, don't bother responding. I am tired of making you look less then intelligent.
     
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    trumps wall worked for the drug cartels.
     
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    Nah, just posturing, and then the actions are different. Don't you know that politicians lie and make promises they don't intend to keep, for votes?
    You should know that. Your guy used to do it all the time. Has that check from the Mexican government paying for the wall, already cleared for the US Treasury?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Selective memory is a gift Democrats are blessed with.

    Federal judge indefinitely blocks Biden administration's 100-day moratorium on most deportations
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-deportation-moratorium-judge-bans-enforcement/
     
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    Come on.
    Your link didn't back up anything you claimed. I provided your quote for you to remember what you claimed.
    All you link did was show that Abbott said the same thing as you. But the article gave no numbers, in fact the article didn't believe Abbott, and neither have you or Abbott. Just made what is still a baseless claim.

    ...
    (CNN)Texas Gov. Greg Abbott is stalling efforts by the Biden administration to provide federal funds for Covid-19 tests for migrants released from custody, a senior Homeland Security official tells CNN.

    After relaxing state Covid restrictions this week, Abbott alleged, without evidence, that migrants coming into Texas are exposing the state's residents to the coronavirus.
    ... https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/04/politics/abbott-migrants-covid-testing/index.html

    Here again is your link. No numbers to the amount of people being released into the Country without being tested.

    I never claimed the surge did not end in 2019.
    I said the surge that is going on at this time, began in early 2020.
    [​IMG]
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56531187

    And the chart clearly shows this current surge started in 2020. How can you not see that.

    So have consistently made up things this entire discussion and provided links that didn't not address what you claimed and other links that actually deflected from anything being discussed.

    If making claims and false links to back up your claims, is the best you can do, do NOT respond.
    I am tired of you showing how unintelligent your posts actually are.

    All you keep showing is how accurate my posts have been.
     
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    Again, HOW MANY are being released without being tested?
    Make it even simpler for you. HOW MANY are being released in total?
    Neither you nor Abbott have give a number. So far then, that number is ZERO. Unless you can show different.
     
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    And immigrant smuggling business.
     
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    [QUOTE="dairyair, post: 1072560310, member: 52125"]I am not aware of people being released into the country and not being tested.
    Do you have a link?

    Biden did it a little late, but he also stated Don't Come.
    There was no dip in 2020, there appears to be a bit of a pause around Sept of 2020.[/QUOTE]

    Ok, so Illegal Crosser Aliens are being tested for Chinese virus and then released into Amerika.

    So much better! Thank you, Democrats! :wall:
     
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    1. I'm not a Democrat
    2. If you had clicked on my link in one of the answers I gave you up there in this very thread, you'd have known that this very thing you're now linking to, was already mentioned there. But you didn't, did you?
    3. That's exactly what I'm calling posturing. Biden gets this executive order (knowing it will be blocked) to appease the radical left, and then acts tough on the border (and now he can say, "not my fault, I tried but the big bad judge blocked it"). But you don't really notice these things, do you? You don't really know how politicians who are trying to navigate a wing of the party they don't really subscribe to, act, do you? Have you noticed that there are no far left radicals in Biden's cabinet? Have you noticed that Biden DEFEATED the far left in the primaries? You haven't, have you?

    I don't really have an interest in dialoguing with posters who don't get it. Good bye. Have a nice life. Keep chuckling. Over and out.
     
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    Unless a wall is manned it is useless.
     
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    Ok, so Illegal Crosser Aliens are being tested for Chinese virus and then released into Amerika.

    So much better! Thank you, Democrats! :wall:[/QUOTE]
    If you are unable to understand the topic at hand, it's best to not make a statement. Then you won't bang your head against an imaginary door.
     
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    Compared to...a virtual wall?

    Heh...
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you are unable to understand the topic at hand, it's best to not make a statement. Then you won't bang your head against an imaginary door.[/QUOTE]

    Ive created this topic. The topic is

    Biden now wants to RESTART construction on Trump’s border wall to ‘plug gaps’ DHS head Mayorkas says

    I understand the topic at hand.
     

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