Biden received a mandate that he must follow

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Pork actualy is infrastructure. Unfortinately the bill is in the main expensive green boondoggles that in the end won't accomish anything other than making everyone's life shorter, poorer, and more desperate. What they've done for the 'hood they seem intent on doing to the entire country.
     
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    He does! He has the bully pulpit. Just like Trump did. Except Trump used it only to get himself protection from Congress for his crimes. That's the reason why Trump has NO legacy. Biden needs to use it more wisely. And the list I gave is what he needs to be using it with. As I told another poster, he only needs those 2 or 3 lawmakers to accomplish his goals in respect to AGW and healthcare. The $3 trillion package would suffice. The rest he can accomplish without Congress. But he does need to be a strong leader. I'll give him till his last day in office to accomplish them. But if he doesn't, he will have failed us.
     
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    Me too, but it doesn't matter why you or I voted for him. We must not allow Trump to set the bar. Over 50% of the vote is a mandate. Biden has to use it. If he doesn't, this administration will have failed. And, for all intents and purposes, Trump will have set the bar for all future administrations.
     
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    In all honesty, I think this is the single biggest mandate. People wanted Trump out, and really didn't care for Biden or pay much attention to any of his promises.
     
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    Democrats are increasingly intimidated by what they fear will be a Republican wave election in 2022. It is becoming "every man or woman for himself or herself."
     
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    Bingo. I voted for Biden to rid the WH of Trump. But the fact that I despise Trump does not require me to admire his opponents.
     
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    Manchin and Sinema will not get reelected if Biden uses his power. The bully pulpit gives Biden enough power to get the goals I listed done. The only question is if he's a strong enough a leader to use it or not.

    If they want to get reelected, they damn well better not undermine the President's core agenda.
     
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    Thats because you on the left can't seem to differentiate between president and God incarnate.
     
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    Yep, Joe better get real serious and fast.
     
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    Biden has the law on his side and the power to appoint independent justices to uphold it. It would be the last resort, but there is no excuse no to do it.

    And Biden can ruin theirs. This will tell us which of them is the stronger leader.
     
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    But you don't decide. In a Democracy, the majority of voters do. And over half the voters voted for Biden's agenda. That constitutes a mandate. And he damn well better fulfill it!
     
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    I'll agree tRump being president would be worse. But, if he had been successful in hijacking our election, you can't honestly believe he would have stopped there.

    He most certainly would have attempted to throw our Constitution away and supplant Government BY the People with an Autocracy of government by him.

    We would have lost ALL Constitutional protections we hold dear. How long before he threw out Habeus Corpus, Freedom of Speech, how safe would your guns be then.

    That is his goal, and if he's reelected that's what he'll try for. Why else would all the Republican Leadership go along with his Big Lie. They want a seat at that table.
     
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    It makes absolutely no difference WHY they voted for him. Biden received a mandate (i.e., over 50% of the votes.) Trump does not get to set the parameter for governing. Voters do, and they did.

    RBG would never have even dreamed that Roe v Wade NEEDED to be protected. Even now, I don't think it needs to be protected. I think even Trump appointed justices will act independently. But, if they don't, Biden is very much justified to bring in more independent justices to counter the partisan ones.

    No! The law already protects Democracy. The Voting Rights Act simply needs to be enforced. And, again, if Biden does not have the leadership skills to protect Democracy... not only this administration... the whole American Republic experiment... will have failed.

    Wrong! This is all part of the $3 trillion package. Congress just needs to pass it. And Biden needs to use the bully pulpit to help them.

    My thread on the topic shows plenty of evidence that there is, and ZERO to prove the contrary.

    I wish to get Trump and his minions in prison for his PROVEN crimes. If Trump does not end in an orange jumpsuit, this Administration will have failed, and we will no longer be living in a nation of laws. Laws will cease to exist for anybody who is high enough in power. And not only will this administration have failed, but it will be complicit to those crimes.
     
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    Exactly! And Roe v Wade will come before the Supreme Court. And that's when we will see if this one does put personal opinions in a box. If they do, great! If they don't, then Biden needs to take action.

    Nobody has seriously questioned that.

    Fixing healthcare means they WON'T take home less.

    The right to own weapons exists because SCOTUS willed it. But that's a different topic which I addressed in the appropriate forum.

    They HAVE been proven. Enough, in many cases (like Trump's) to put them away for the rest of their lives. The evidence for many of them is quite public. I'm pretty sure evidence exists for many more.
     
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    Over 50% of the vote is a mandate. Trump does not get to set the goals for this administration. Biden does. And he received a mandate that he must fulfill.
     
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    Sure. Compromise away. But get the issues you ran on done! If you don't, you fail.
     
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    They're from red States that couldn't care less about President Biden, and if he opposed Manchin or Sinema it would probably GAIN them votes.
     
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    You really think Donald Trump of all people has actually thought that far ahead or in that great detail.?
     
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    Sometimes I wonder if this isn't simply the games they are all playing.
     
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    What makes you say that?
     
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    Likely not Trump himself (now, he likely knows however), but surely Steve Bannon and the mercers have.
     
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    I don't think he has a grand plan, but, yes he certainly has an end game in mind.

    Our only hope is his propensity to "just wing it".
     
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    Man, facts can be brutal. :)
     
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    Not hard to vote for a President when he buys off over a quarter of the population with free stuff and citizenship for friends and illegal family. They could give a damn about his agenda. Just give them what he promised, which so far he hasn't.
     
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    Sure you're not overrating Bannon?
     

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