Biden says private-sector COVID-19 vaccine mandate will take effect ‘soon’

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  1. Zorro

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    I already gave you the link and it's not from DeSantis.

    Your claim that Florida has the highest death rate is fake news. All of these states have higher death rates than FL.

    MS 3349 0.33%
    NJ 3128 0.31%
    AL 3123 0.31%
    LA 3103 0.31%
    NY 2911 0.29%
    AZ 2847 0.28%
    MA 2738 0.27%
    RI 2708 0.27%
    FL 2707 0.27%
    Now you are making words up.

    Now you are admitting that the facts support DeSantis' exemplary job. Your problem with the facts is that they don't support your "messaging."
    A Blog, eh?
    More Fake News. John Hopkins has their positivity rate at 3.83%

    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/testing-positivity
    More fake news. Their daily death average is just over half your wild claim.

    Here is a breakdown of average daily COVID-19 deaths and COVID-19 deaths per 100,000 people over the last seven days in all 50 U.S. states and Washington, D.C. 28% of the States have higher death rates than FL

    Wyoming
    Deaths per 100,000: 1.7
    Daily average deaths: 9.9

    Montana
    Deaths per 100,000: 1.62
    Daily average deaths: 17.3

    Alaska
    Deaths per 100,000: 1.52
    Daily average deaths: 11.1

    West Virginia
    Deaths per 100,000: 1.51
    Daily average deaths: 27.1

    Idaho
    Deaths per 100,000: 1.26
    Daily average deaths: 22.6

    Georgia
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.99
    Daily average deaths: 106

    Kentucky
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.93
    Daily average deaths: 41.4

    South Carolina
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.83
    Daily average deaths: 42.6

    North Dakota
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.77
    Daily average deaths: 5.9

    Ohio
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.73
    Daily average deaths: 85

    Tennessee
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.7
    Daily average deaths: 47.9

    Texas
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.65
    Daily average deaths: 188.1

    Alabama
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.64
    Daily average deaths: 31.3

    Arizona
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.63
    Daily average deaths: 45.7

    Florida
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.6
    Daily average deaths: 128.1

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/us-coronavirus-deaths-by-state-july-1.html (last updated Oct. 22)
     
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    Lol your facts about DeSantas in Florida is not grounded in Reality at least no on this Planet

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    FLORIDA’S NEWSPAPERS KNOW THAT FLORIDA IS CHEATING ON IT’S COVID-19 DEATHCOUNT

    https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs...-undercounting-covid-19-deaths-per-new-report

    "Florida is undercounting COVID-19 deaths, per new report'
    Posted By Alex Galbraith on Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 11:28 am

    "In Florida, the picture is considerably more grim, with 4,924 deaths seemingly missing from our idea of the death toll. Given the state's somewhat dodgy history around reporting the numbers — where potential whistleblowers were harassed by police and the state suppressed reports from medical examiners — we can't say we're surprised."

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/corona...0201014-tfho3kvw7jaabmlv2d7gwndgii-story.html
    South Florida Sun Sentinel |
    Oct 14, 2020 at 5:40 PM
    Florida puts a positive spin on COVID-19 data, misleading the public on pandemic
    While Florida has publicized that its “positivity rate” has regularly fallen below 5%, other health organizations are publishing data that shows the rate may be dramatically higher.
    Independent experts, including Johns Hopkins University, consistently list Florida’s positivity rate at 10% or higher, twice the recommended level for widespread reopening.
    Florida itself calculates another version of the rate — not widely publicized — that shows the pandemic is worse than state officials have championed. Those figures show that the rate has never fallen to the 5% threshold, the South Florida Sun Sentinel discovered.

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/corona...0200715-cpwwngaefzdnpitbs7buh7zsei-story.html
    Florida’s hidden data skews COVID-19 test results”
    South Florida Sun Sentinel |
    Jul 15, 2020 at 5:32 PM
    "A person who tests positive is counted only once, but negative tests can be counted repeatedly if the same person got more than one test.
    In addition, just as the pandemic raced out of control this month, the state changed the formula. It now mixes two different types of tests, including one that produces more false negative results.
    The upshot of both factors is that the rate of positive tests, as quoted by the state, could make the situation look significantly better than it is, experts say.
    How much the rate would change, if calculated differently, is impossible to know because the state refuses to release key pieces of raw data.
    “There is a peculiar odor around the data in Florida and there has been for some time,” said Dr. William Hanage, associate professor of epidemiology at Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of...
    COVID-19 cases in Florida continue to dive but deaths continue to pile up
    October 21, 2021
    "Florida is very close to a low point in weekly counts of new COVID-19 cases not seen since before the delta variant emerged but deaths from the summer surge continue to pile up in numbers rarely seen before the summer of 2021.
    Florida’s latest COVID-19 Weekly Situation Report, released late Friday, records a seven-day increase of just 18,807 new cases statewide in the week ending Thursday.
    That total is in the range Florida was tabulating each week in late May, June, and the first report in July, back when Florida’s coronavirus crisis appeared to be over.
    Then came Florida’s summer surge, fueled by the delta variant, which began emerging by July 9. By July 30 Florida was reporting more than 100,000 new cases each week. Those case numbers began falling again in late August."
    https://wusf.org/floridas-covid-19-deaths-are-still-among-the-highest-in-the-nation-2/
    Leda Alvim
    October 14, 2021 06:10 PM
    Florida’s COVID-19 deaths are still among the highest in the nation
    Although Florida has reported lower COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations over the past few weeks, the state’s death rate is still among the highest in the nation.
    An analysis from the New York Times finds that the number of COVID-19 deaths in Florida per 100,000 is the third highest in the country over the past seven days. And the state’s daily death average of 239.7 is higher than any other state.
    Democratic Senator Janet Cruz questioned a representative from the Florida Department of Health on Wednesday about the state’s priorities when it comes to COVID-19 during a committee hearing in Tallahassee.
    https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs...d-19-data-at-height-of-pandemic-moves-forward
    Orlando Weekly
    Lawsuit accusing Florida of withholding COVID-19 data at height of pandemic moves forward
    Posted By News Service of Florida on Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 10:09 AM
    "A Leon County circuit judge has scheduled a two-day hearing next month in a lawsuit alleging the Florida Department of Health has violated public-records laws by refusing to provide detailed data about the COVID-19 pandemic.
    Judge John Cooper issued an order this week scheduling the hearing on Nov. 9 and Nov. 10. State Rep. Carlos Guillermo Smith, D-Orlando, and the Florida Center for Government Accountability filed the lawsuit in August after the Department of Health rebuffed requests for daily information about COVID-19 cases, positivity rates, hospitalizations, deaths and vaccinations."
    https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs...tors-lawsuit-against-state-over-covid-19-data
    "Major newspapers join Orlando legislator's lawsuit against state of Florida over COVID-19 data
    Posted By Alex Galbraith on Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 11:48 AM"

    'Smith countered that the information was previously offered to the public without incident. He also noted that the data was pulled just as the pandemic reached its worst level seen so far, while Governor Ron DeSantis was pushing a narrative of a reopened and safe Florida.
    The reality is that they made this COVID data available every day for over a year on the public dashboard — and then decided that right now those same records should not be available to Floridians even though the delta variant made COVID-19 worse in the last three months than at any point previously in the pandemic.”
     
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    Please show me a quote where I've said that but you can't because you're statement is a fiction about me. You are putting words in my mouth that I have never said. Don't take it out on me that you are quoting false Desantis statistics. Florida Newspapers and public officials will testify the Desantis cooked his numbers and I have irrrefutable proof from half a dozen Florida newspapers below.

    If you had read the way Desantas' cooks numbers you'll never know for sure will you?

    You mean your totally fictional Desantis driven statistics


    As I've told you before you claims are based on Fake Stats from Florida. You have failed in your claims to prove Florida is doing better than other states since time after time the stats they give to others is B.S. I've already given the proof that FLORIDIAN Newspapers and public figures are aware of how Deadly Desantis cooks the numbers.
    ALL YOUR STATS COME FROM DESANTIS. WHY ARE YOU REPEATING HIS B.S. WITHOUT QUESTION/. YOU HAVE FAILED TO PROVE ANYTHING ABOUT FLORIDA

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/s...e-public-on-the-covid-19-pandemic/ar-BB1bDm7j

    Sun Sentinal

    Secrecy and spin: How Florida's governor misled the public on the COVID-19 pandemic

    By Mario Ariza, David Fleshler and Cindy Krischer Goodman, Sun Sentinel 12/4/2020

    FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. — Throughout the COVID-19 crisis in Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis’ administration engaged in a pattern of spin and concealment that misled the public on the gravest health threat the state has ever faced, a South Florida Sun Sentinel investigation has found. The DeSantis administration refused to reveal details about the first suspected cases in Florida, then denied the virus was spreading from person to person — despite mounting evidence that it was.
    State officials withheld information about infections in schools, prisons, hospitals and nursing homes, relenting only under pressure or legal action from family members, advocacy groups and journalists. Piccolo did not respond to questions on why the administration shut out mainstream scientists, or denied that person-to-person spread was taking place or resisted the release of COVID-19 information on nursing homes, schools and prisons. As the disease spread through Florida, state agencies refused to release information about how many people were sick at individual nursing homes, prisons, hospitals or schools. Florida’s wealth of university-affiliated experts on infectious diseases have largely watched from the sidelines as the governor consulted coronavirus advisers who would back his policies.



    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-slow-down-testing-coronavirus-i-dont-kid/

    Trump says he wasn't joking about testing slowdown: "I don't kid"





    All of your stats coming from DeSantas are pure B.S. but you keep huffing and puffing delivering DeSanintis' poisoned goods completely oblivious to the truth.


    FLORIDA’S NEWSPAPERS KNOW THAT FLORIDA IS CHEATING ON IT’S COVID-19 DEATH COUNT.

    https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs...-undercounting-covid-19-deaths-per-new-report

    Florida is undercounting COVID-19 deaths, per new report

    Posted By Alex Galbraith on Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 11:28 am

    In Florida, the picture is considerably more grim, with 4,924 deaths seemingly missing from our idea of the death toll. Given the state's somewhat dodgy history around reporting the numbers — where potential whistleblowers were harassed by police and the state suppressed reports from medical examiners — we can't say we're surprised.


    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/corona...0201014-tfho3kvw7jaabmlv2d7gwndgii-story.html

    South Florida Sun Sentinel

    Oct 14, 2020 at 5:40 PM

    Florida puts a positive spin on COVID-19 data, misleading the public on pandemic

    While Florida has publicized that its “positivity rate” has regularly fallen below 5%, other health organizations are publishing data that shows the rate may be dramatically higher.

    Independent experts, including Johns Hopkins University, consistently list Florida’s positivity rate at 10% or higher, twice the recommended level for widespread reopening.

    Florida itself calculates another version of the rate — not widely publicized — that shows the pandemic is worse than state officials have championed. Those figures show that the rate has never fallen to the 5% threshold, the South Florida Sun Sentinel discovered.


    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/corona...0200715-cpwwngaefzdnpitbs7buh7zsei-story.html

    “Florida’s hidden data skews COVID-19 test results”

    South Florida Sun Sentinel |

    Jul 15, 2020 at 5:32 PM

    A person who tests positive is counted only once, but negative tests can be counted repeatedly if the same person got more than one test.

    In addition, just as the pandemic raced out of control this month, the state changed the formula. It now mixes two different types of tests, including one that produces more false negative results.

    The upshot of both factors is that the rate of positive tests, as quoted by the state, could make the situation look significantly better than it is, experts say.

    How much the rate would change, if calculated differently, is impossible to know because the state refuses to release key pieces of raw data.

    “There is a peculiar odor around the data in Florida and there has been for some time,” said Dr. William Hanage, associate professor of epidemiology at Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of



    https://wusf.org/floridas-covid-19-deaths-are-still-among-the-highest-in-the-nation-2/
    WUDF
    COVID-19 cases in Florida continue to dive but deaths continue to pile up

    October 21, 2021
    Florida is very close to a low point in weekly counts of new COVID-19 cases not seen since before the delta variant emerged but deaths from the summer surge continue to pile up in numbers rarely seen before the summer of 2021.


    Florida’s latest COVID-19 Weekly Situation Report, released late Friday, records a seven-day increase of just 18,807 new cases statewide in the week ending Thursday.

    That total is in the range Florida was tabulating each week in late May, June, and the first report in July, back when Florida’s coronavirus crisis appeared to be over.

    Then came Florida’s summer surge, fueled by the delta variant, which began emerging by July 9. By July 30 Florida was reporting more than 100,000 new cases each week. Those case numbers began falling again in late August.


    https://wusf.org/floridas-covid-19-deaths-are-still-among-the-highest-in-the-nation-2/

    Florida’s COVID-19 deaths are still among the highest in the nation

    October 14, 2021 06:10 PM

    Although Florida has reported lower COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations over the past few weeks, the state’s death rate is still among the highest in the nation.

    An analysis from the New York Times finds that the number of COVID-19 deaths in Florida per 100,000 is the third highest in the country over the past seven days. And the state’s daily death average of 239.7 is higher than any other state.

    Democratic Senator Janet Cruz questioned a representative from the Florida Department of Health on Wednesday about the state’s priorities when it comes to COVID-19 during a committee hearing in Tallahassee.

    ALL YOUR STATS COME FROM DESANTIS. WHY ARE YOU REPEATING HIS B.S. WITHOUT QUESTION/. YOU HAVE FAILED TO PROVE ANYTHING ON FLORIDA BECAUSE EVERYTHING COMES FROM DESANTIS!
     
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    Fake News. You yourself described John Hopkins as a reliable source, yet when I cite them to falsify the the data you falsely claim is FL's performance, you now claim them to be "extraterrestrial"? That's a rather incoherent flip flop. Then you cite a blog?
    Then a 7 month old "post"?
    You really need better and more current sources.
    That's fake news via a secondary fake news source. As I already showed you, and furnished you the supporting link, if you go directly to John Hopkins they show FL at 3.03%.

    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/testing-positivity

    Do your credibility a favor and go DIRECTLY to the John Hopkins cite for first hand up to date data.
    More Fake News. The pandemic is "not racing out of control this month" in FL.
    More Fake News. Florida's 7 day average of daily deaths is at its lowest level since March 2020.
    More fake news and 'sourced' to a blog.

    Do your credibility a favor and get real first hand data from reputable sources. States ranked by COVID-19 death rates: Updated Oct. 22. https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/us-coronavirus-deaths-by-state-july-1.html

    FL's death rate isn't 3rd highest, it's 15th highest, and it's not 239.7, it's nearly half that, at 128.1.

    Wyoming
    Deaths per 100,000: 1.7
    Daily average deaths: 9.9

    Montana
    Deaths per 100,000: 1.62
    Daily average deaths: 17.3

    Alaska
    Deaths per 100,000: 1.52
    Daily average deaths: 11.1

    West Virginia
    Deaths per 100,000: 1.51
    Daily average deaths: 27.1

    Idaho
    Deaths per 100,000: 1.26
    Daily average deaths: 22.6

    Georgia
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.99
    Daily average deaths: 106

    Kentucky
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.93
    Daily average deaths: 41.4

    South Carolina
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.83
    Daily average deaths: 42.6

    North Dakota
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.77
    Daily average deaths: 5.9

    Ohio
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.73
    Daily average deaths: 85

    Tennessee
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.7
    Daily average deaths: 47.9

    Texas
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.65
    Daily average deaths: 188.1

    Alabama
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.64
    Daily average deaths: 31.3

    Arizona
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.63
    Daily average deaths: 45.7

    Florida
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.6
    Daily average deaths: 128.1

    Delaware
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.59
    Daily average deaths: 5.7[/quote]
    You're welcome!
     
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    You don't get it. These posts show that Florida has been cheating on it's numbers for months. So far all your numbers are B.S. DeSantis' numbers which renders all your posts useless. Your numbers have no credibility and you think that by repeating the same old falsehoods repetition makes them the truth.

    Why should I all may stats are perfect for the time period they were taken. Do yourself a favor and find Statistics that don't come from a completely lying B.S. Covid regime.
    At the time these statistics came out all of these things were true the only question is where did Desantis bury the bodies.



    OK

    False wrong B.S and Fake DeSantis statistics. .

    Lol The Florida stats came directly from the false DeSantis' statistics and you insist on repeating them over and over. DeSantis kept changing the way Florida took statistics and no one knows exactly what the true statistics are but given DeSantis' proclivity to constantly change the way statistics were taken you can't be guaranteed . They are false. Even with all the lying that DeSantis did regarding covid-19 deaths his state was still in the top 10 in overal Covid deaths per capita..What would the real ranking be with honest numbers.
    • U.S. COVID-19 death rate by state | Statista

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    After she was fired Monday, Jones told CBS12 News in West Palm Beach, Fla., that it was because she refused to "manually change data to drum up support for the plan to reopen."
    https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...governor-defends-firing-of-top-data-scientist
    Last week, Jones notified public health researchers in an email that she'd been removed from the project. "As a word of caution," she wrote, "I would not expect the new team to continue the same level of accessibility and transparency that I made central to the process during the first two months. After all, my commitment to both is largely (arguably entirely) the reason I am no longer managing it."
     
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    Fake News. I get it perfectly.
    More fake news, NONE of my numbers are "DeSantis numbers" which you know full well as I have supplied links to the primary up to date sources
    For May, have you looked at the calendar lately?
    Wild, ungrounded, evidence free Blue-anon conspiracy theories.
    Fake News. I cited John Hopkins, the same source you used as your "source" for the wildly inflated claims you were trying to foist on us. Now you were citing a secondary source who cited John Hopkins, so perhaps the dishonesty was on their part, but, you asserted John Hopkins to lend your claims credibility. Then when I cite John Hopkins numbers to show that your claims are wildly inflated, suddenly John Hopkins numbers are dismissed as "DeSantis' numbers." You've completely walled yourself off from outside information.
    Well that's progress, previously you claimed Florida was the "worst" and now you admit that 7 states are worse, including max mandate states which undercuts your claim that FL could have reduce their death rates with more oppressive mandates. Does anyone have more oppressive mandates than New York? Yet NY's death rates are 6% higher than Freedom and Liberty Desantis'.

    Leon County COVID cases fall 25.8%; Florida cases plummet 32.5%
    Florida reported far fewer coronavirus cases in the week ending Sunday

    USA TODAY NETWORK

    https://www.tallahassee.com/story/n...sed-tallahassee-florida-coronavirus/49267047/

    That DeSantis is doing one HELL of a job!

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    Lol he's been doing one hellish job.

    Are you kidding? You keep swallowing Statistics that originate from Florida before they're reported nationally. It's hard to have a discussion with the unenlightened. And are you kidding! Florida has been known for the past 2 years for sky-rocketing positivity rates.

    https://www.local10.com/news/florid...9-positivity-increases-for-9th-straight-week/
    Florida COVID-19 positivity increases for 9th straight week
    State averaging 21,000+ cases per day on average as hospitalizations also surge
    "FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. – Florida reported 150,118 new COVID-19 cases in the past week, a slight decrease from the 151,468 new cases in the state a week earlier.
    August 20, 2021 5:40 pm
    Updated: August 20, 2021 6:33 pm

    Tags: Coronavirus, Florida, Broward Coun
    It snaps a streak of eight consecutive weeks with an increase in new cases, but the statewide new-case positivity rate rose for a ninth straight week, reaching 19.8%."


    Florida has been hiding hundreds upon hundreds of covid-19 deaths in the last 2 years in their statistics and my past posts show this to be absolutely true. No state has been questioned by it's news reporters and public figures about covid-19 statistics as has Florida and I've shown dozens of reports showing the Governor cheats on raw statistics before they are sent out publicly. A concept you don't seem to be able to grasp. Don't you know that all publicly reported statistics start at the local level???!!?? Your arguments have been crushed,

    Even with all of it's false statistics and hidden covid death numbers Florida is in the top ten when it comes to deaths per capita. What would the real numbers be if DeathSantis wasn't such a bald faced liar for political purposes.


    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/
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    You Keep ignoring this and the dozen or so newspaper articles I've posted that show DeathSantis' numbers per month for the last 2 years were phony.

    This is one of a dozen newspapper articles I've sent you keep ignoring them that's how you work right?
    https://www.palmbeachpost.com/opini...g-crucial-data-on-covid-19-deaths-from-public

    THE PALM BEACH POST May 13, 2020 at 6:15 AM

    As fatalities from th

    The state of Florida is hiding information about coronavirus deaths from citizens. Under the direction of Gov. Ron DeSantis and the Florida Department of Health (DOH), the state has consistently refused to inform the public about deaths and infections in Florida nursing homes, prisons and now, coronavirus deaths as documented by public medical examiners.



    As fatalities from the virus continue to increase daily, never in recent historical memory has there been a more unsettling display of Florida government’s dark impulses to conceal the truth from its own citizens. These citizens should be outraged.

    https://www.mediamatters.org/corona...hy-desantis-should-not-be-covid-19-role-model
    Some national news outlets, including the right-wing propaganda outlet Fox News, have recently been gushing over Florida’s handling of the COVID-19 pandemic. But Florida-based media are telling a different story, reporting on numerous cover-ups, scandals, and instances of manipulated data from Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis and his administration, as well as repeated cases of DeSantis and a spokesperson personally pushing COVID-19 misinformation.

    Axios reported on March 15 that DeSantis’ handling of the pandemic in Florida is getting “a second look from the national media,” referencing a Sunday New York Times article titled “‘I’d much rather be in Florida.” The Associated Press joined in on this trend with a March 13 article republished by numerous news organizations titled “Virus tolls similar despite governors’ contrasting actions.










     
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    Lol This high mind boggling positivity rate is from august 2020.You really don't know what you're saying do you?// Your lack of comprehension is mind boggling. Did you read the date that I put on this. No wonder you're so gullible regarding DeSantas' statistics. But these high positivity rates reflect higher death rates that have a cumulative value over time so the death rate per 100,000 for the last 2 years are completely false from Florida and don't reflect the cumulative numbers of death over 2 years. .

    https://www.local10.com/news/florid...9-positivity-increases-for-9th-straight-week/
    Florida COVID-19 positivity increases for 9th straight week
    State averaging 21,000+ cases per day on average as hospitalizations also surge
    "FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. – Florida reported 150,118 new COVID-19 cases in the past week, a slight decrease from the 151,468 new cases in the state a week earlier.
    August 20, 2021 5:40 pm
    Updated: August 20, 2021 6:33 pm
    It snaps a streak of eight consecutive weeks with an increase in new cases, but the statewide new-case positivity rate rose for a ninth straight week, reaching 19.8%."

    Month after Month after Month for aprox 2 years Fla either miscounted covid-19 death numbers or buried them using other reasons for death even though Covid-19 was part of a co-morbid state that should have included covid-19 as the cause of death. Personally I don't think you can understand what I'm saying or the terms I'm using. Too bad.

    See if you can understand this article but normally you ignore the articles I post or just don't understand them.
    This is one of dozens I have posted.

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/flo...ew-scrutiny-090058319.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall

    "Florida COVID numbers face new scrutiny"
    In the case of Florida, the researchers say, 4,924 excess deaths should have been counted as resulting from COVID-19 but for the most part were ruled as having been caused by something else, thus lowering Florida’s coronavirus fatality count. That’s possible because people who die from COVID-19 often have comorbidities, such as diabetes and asthma. That leaves some discretion for medical examiners, who have sometimes struggled with conflicting science and been subject to political pressures during the pandemic.
    In Florida, the state’s 25 district medical examiners are directly appointed by the governor. "Last spring, the DeSantis administration was accused of trying to keep those medical examiners from releasing complete coronavirus data. (In August, the state said coronavirus deaths no longer required certification from a medical examiner.) "


    Do you really believe that DeSantis hand picked medical examiners are going to be transparent while at the same time under DeSantis control? Or are you going to ignore this like you have other things in the past.

    You keep swallowing the monthly false numbers from DeSantis over the past years or you don't have what it takes to grasp what he's doing. Look up comorbidity. I've use the term several times and it just glances over you like water over a duck or you choose to ignore it for the sake of Deantis' false numbers.

    We don't know how many hundreds of thousands have died because Florida buried or hid the covid-19 reason for death and simply called it pneumonia even though the patient died from both(comorbidity) and DeSantis' hand picked medical examiners chose only pneumonia as the cause of death.


    https://www.mediamatters.org/corona...hy-desantis-should-not-be-covid-19-role-model
    "DeSantis and his administration have been covering up and hiding information about the pandemic from the Florida public in so many instances and for so long that, honestly, it’s difficult to summarize. This timeline of “Florida’s pattern of secrecy about COVID-19” that the South Florida Sun Sentinel published in December barely scratches the surface:"
    " February 2020: Florida health agencies refused to release information about the amount of people being monitored or tested for coronavirus, and their locations, until March."


    In March, Florida’s Agency for Health Care Administration refused for weeks to release the names of elder-care facilities which had reported infections, or the number of infections.


    In April, news organizations were forced to file a lawsuit when the state refused to provide the number of COVID-19 deaths at these facilities. It took over a month for Florida to begin releasing this information.


    At the same time, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement “refused requests to release the name, age, ethnicity and other information about the people who died of COVID-19,” prompting more legal pressure from local news outlets.


    In May, the Florida Department of Corrections refused to publicly disclose inmates’ test results, or which prisons had COVID-19 deaths.


    In July, Florida still had not been releasing daily COVID-19 hospitalization numbers. The Sun Sentinel reported that “Florida was one of the last three states to release that information” when it finally began to do so.


    In August and September, DeSantis’ administration “refused to make public a report that showed the number of infections in counties that had resumed in-person classes.” Florida published the report at the end of the month, but then removed it the next day. According to the Sun Sentinel, “It took a full month and prodding by parents, teachers, educational organizations and the media for health officials to release the school report on Sept. 29.”


    In October, the Sun Sentinel reported, local news organizations’ lawyers “made repeated requests for information about cases in day-care centers.” Florida’s Department of Health responded in mid-November that “it does not intend to publish any day-care COVID numbers.”


    And in November, according to the Sun Sentinel, DeSantis’ office refused to provide that month’s White House Coronavirus Task Force reports to local news organizations that requested them. The White House had said they could be made public but left the decision to the states.




    There are many, many more Florida media stories detailing how DeSantis and his administration covered up the true scale of the pandemic in the state. Some of them are included below."







     
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    Where does Biden get the authority to order such a mandate? Must be his head and handlers' minds, because it is certainly not the Constitution which to Biden and the vast majority of Democrats is just more toilet paper.

    I think Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, et al ad infinitum love these mandates because it is one giant advance to help their insatiable desire for a totalitarian government under their exclusive control.
     
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    Fake news, and you know it because I included the link. Kind of hard to miss the bold print right on the page: This page was last updated on Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 06:00 AM EDT. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/testing-positivity

    Florida's positively rate, as of 6 am this morning is 3.08%, more than 38% below WHO recommended criteria, and they are one of only 14 states meeting the WHO's recommended threshold.
    You are the one trying to claim that this mornings information is 14 months old.
    You are the one who cited John Hopkins as a reliable source, yet when I cite them to show that your claims are wildly inflated, then suddenly you call them "'DeSantas' (spl) statistics"
    More fake news. Not only are Florida's positivity rates in the top 14 lowest in the nation, but their current average death rate over the last 7 days is 128, not the ridiculous number you were claiming that was nearly twice that.
    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/us-coronavirus-deaths-by-state-july-1.html - updated Oct 22, 2021
    That's even more ridiculous than your last claim. Their current average daily deaths for the last 7 days is a mere 128. Your wild assertion is over 167 TIMES the actual number.

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/us-coronavirus-deaths-by-state-july-1.html - updated Oct 22, 2021
    Why are you trying to pass off old information as "current" when current first hand information by trusted industry sources is right at your fingertips?
    Fake news, it's been consistently dropping and the new-case positivity rate is 3.08%, your wild claim is inflated by over 6 TIMES.

    This page was last updated on Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 06:00 AM EDT. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/testing-positivity.

    Since you have a real problem recognising current information, I have helpfully put the update date in red and bold. You're welcome. Our hero, Ron DeSantis, personally dove into the swamp and wrestled this COVID alligator, and at the moment is soundly kicking it's ass, but, this COVID is a tricky bastard, let down your guard for one second and it comes roaring back. DeSantis, having an actual brain, is well aware of that and stands ready to deliver yet another asskicking to the virus should that be necessary. It's so nice to have an executive with an actual brain.

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    Biden Blows The CNN Town Hall Meeting.​
     
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    This Data which originally came from Florida is False. Dozens of notices from the Florida Press and Florida health officials show that DeSantis has been cheating and hiding the number of Hospitalizations and Deaths in Florida for or the last 2 years.


    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/flo...ew-scrutiny-090058319.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    "Florida COVID numbers face new scrutiny
    "In the case of Florida, the researchers say, 4,924 excess deaths should have been counted as resulting from COVID-19 but for the most part were ruled as having been caused by something else, thus lowering Florida’s coronavirus fatality count. That’s possible because people who die from COVID-19 often have comorbidities, such as diabetes and asthma. That leaves some discretion for medical examiners, who have sometimes struggled with conflicting science and been subject to political pressures during the pandemic.

    In Florida, the state’s 25 district medical examiners are directly appointed by the governor. Last spring, the DeSantis administration was accused of trying to keep those medical examiners from releasing complete coronavirus data. (In August, the state said coronavirus deaths no longer required certification from a medical examiner.)"

    You like the fact that there is no transparency in Florida. All Medical examiners were handpicked by DeSantis and are under his control. Once again we have a Soviet style goverment control in Fla which you have no problem with.

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/flo...ew-scrutiny-090058319.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
    Florida COVID numbers face new scrutiny

    In the case of Florida, the researchers say, 4,924 excess deaths should have been counted as resulting from COVID-19 but for the most part were ruled as having been caused by something else, thus lowering Florida’s coronavirus fatality count. That’s possible because people who die from COVID-19 often have comorbidities, such as diabetes and asthma. That leaves some discretion for medical examiners, who have sometimes struggled with conflicting science and been subject to political pressures during the pandemic.

    DeSantis and his administration have been covering up and hiding information about the pandemic from the Florida public in so many instances and for so long that, honestly, it’s difficult to summarize. This timeline of “Florida’s pattern of secrecy about COVID-19” that the South Florida Sun Sentinel published in December barely scratches the surface:

    February 2020: Florida health agencies refused to release information about the amount of people being monitored or tested for coronavirus, and their locations, until March.


    In March, Florida’s Agency for Health Care Administration refused for weeks to release the names of elder-care facilities which had reported infections, or the number of infections.


    In April, news organizations were forced to file a lawsuit when the state refused to provide the number of COVID-19 deaths at these facilities. It took over a month for Florida to begin releasing this information.


    At the same time, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement “refused requests to release the name, age, ethnicity and other information about the people who died of COVID-19,” prompting more legal pressure from local news outlets.


    In May, the Florida Department of Corrections refused to publicly disclose inmates’ test results, or which prisons had COVID-19 deaths.


    In July, Florida still had not been releasing daily COVID-19 hospitalization numbers. The Sun Sentinel reported that “Florida was one of the last three states to release that information” when it finally began to do so.


    In August and September, DeSantis’ administration “refused to make public a report that showed the number of infections in counties that had resumed in-person classes.” Florida published the report at the end of the month, but then removed it the next day. According to the Sun Sentinel, “It took a full month and prodding by parents, teachers, educational organizations and the media for health officials to release the school report on Sept. 29.”


    In October, the Sun Sentinel reported, local news organizations’ lawyers “made repeated requests for information about cases in day-care centers.” Florida’s Department of Health responded in mid-November that “it does not intend to publish any day-care COVID numbers.”


    And in November, according to the Sun Sentinel, DeSantis’ office refused to provide that month’s White House Coronavirus Task Force reports to local news organizations that requested them. The White House had said they could be made public but left the decision to the states.


    There are many, many more Florida media stories detailing how DeSantis and his administration covered up the true scale of the pandemic in the state. Some of them are included below.




    In Florida, the state’s 25 district medical examiners are directly appointed by the governor. Last spring, the DeSantis administration was accused of trying to keep those medical examiners from releasing complete coronavirus data. (In August, the state said coronavirus deaths no longer required certification from a medical examiner.)"





     
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    upload_2021-10-24_18-39-39.png 10-22-21https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/
    Fla is 273 per capita on the death chart. Remember Desantis tightly controls his medical examiners and many of his supporters like that fact or are not complaining.

    Florida is in the top 10 in the U.S. for number of Covid deaths and that's after hiding a thousand or more covid deaths. What would the real rate per capita be if DeSantis hadn't hidden the true covid-19 death count in Florida.
     
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    Biden's pretty much lights out when it comes high level brain function. Notice everyone ignoring him while he screams like a lunatic. This isn't the first time they've seen it.

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    Joe and the folks "advising" him are wholly ignorant regarding the scope of the powers the President. Courts are constantly reversing because he keeps attempting to act illegitimately and he and his 'advisers' are painfully slow learners, if they are capable of learning at all.
    Not a good look for Dems.
    She's a liar.
    He's trying to "workaround" the constitution, and openly admits it, which every judge that learns of this, takes note of the deliberate attempt to circumvent the constitution he took an oath to uphold.

    https://t.co/5GYfIWeSqc
     
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    Follow the Science? No. Follow the money.

    HE FIX WAS IN: Biden HHS officials told to factor teacher union talks into reopening guidance.

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    Untrustworthy Political Hack.​
    Then they cloak their political considerations with the mantle of "science".
     
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