Biden says private-sector COVID-19 vaccine mandate will take effect ‘soon’

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  1. Zorro

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    OLD AND BUSTED: The Hippocratic Oath.

    The New Hotness?

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    In other dispatches from the world of politicized health care:

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    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/479607/

    Smash-mouth haters, drunk with power, badly in need of a reality check in the upcoming elections.
     
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    that is what I do not get, Trump supporters are shooting themselves in the foot in swing States, it's like they don't care

    Biden could just say screw it, let them not take the vaccine, but he cares about the American people, regardless of party, Bidden is everyone's President

    next year when Biden gets this under control, the right will try to give Trump all the credit
     
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    This is becoming comedy. No way do you believe the things you type. Are you being paid? This can't be real.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Welcome to clown world.

    Sometimes all you can do is laugh.

     
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    Anyone other than Trump. Anyone.
     
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    First, you listed a good number of questions, but that's all they were: your personal concerns, but no smoking-gun indictments. This first of your charges, is a case in point: the Executive order for businesses of 100 or more employees, has already been announced, in principle; we have only been waiting for the lawyers to write it up nice & legal, for the challenges that are bound to follow it. That order will not mandate "vaccines, period." It mandates EITHER vaccines, OR weekly testing. So, based on the order, no one is being required to get a vaccine.

    While it may well become the reality that some businesses will not offer the testing option, & will themselves, then, require vaccines, that is their doing, not Biden's. You might call this a slippery kind of only not technically a lie, except for the fact that this type of tricky, non-lie, is common practice in politics, particularly so on the Republican side, and especially of late. And, unfortunately for your case, I am sure you have, on multiple occasions, supported Republicans as not lying, based on just such "technicalities," much less have you ever faulted politicians on your ideological side, for being so "clever," in their wording. If I am wrong about this, all you need do is produce your posts to correct me, and I will readdress this issue, with an altered perspective (no tricky semantics in there; I will reappraise the implications given by Biden's "promise," in the same way you show that you have treated Republican practitioners of linguistic legerdemain). In the absence of that, though, I respond only that Biden's order does keep his word and, as for you: those who live by the sword, die by the sword.
     
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    500,000 died under Trump and he actively stated vaccines and masks should be optional. Given the time it took for Biden to ramp up for he did a great job. By the way Killer Trump sill claims masks and vaccines should be optional.
     
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    I didn't know you could get paid, how much do you earn a week? do you get benefits? do you like your job?
     
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    Fake News.

    As of yesterday morning 309,506 Americans have died on Biden's watch.
    432,669 died on Trump's watch

    At Biden's current death rate he'll exceed Trump in death count by 12/22/21.

    Who cares what Trump thinks about vaccine and mask mandates? Biden's president and he has imposed neither. Biden is not turning in better record than Trump on COVID and Trump handed Biden 3 working vaccines.

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    Keep in mind and some of those counties in Alaska three covid cases could throw off the averages drastically. There is more barren land in Alaska than there is in the outback.
     
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    I see no courage to provide a source. I can't believe you're gloating over the current death rate in a joyful rage. . Most of the deaths currently are due to those who under Trumps spell think that vaccines should be optional. They are choosing not to take the vaccine although that's turning around and the death rate is dropping dramatically as more people are turning away from the death optional policies under Trump. They are seeing the necessity of the vaccine. . Trump constantly promoted mask and vaccines optional for his entire last term and had no problem with those who choose neither.. It's hard to convince the suspicious to do the right thing and avoid risky behavior but that is beginning to turn around. It's even more difficult when we have sick politicians in many states fighting to decrease the number of vaccines their citizens should be taking.
    This is idiotic”: Mayors defy Ron DeSantis’ threat to fine cities “millions” for vaccine mandates
    "We’re not going to let our own governor put our residents in danger," says Miami Beach Mayor Do
    https://www.salon.com/2021/09/14/th...to-fine-cities-millions-for-vaccine-mandates/

    As I've said as we slowly turn away from the "death optional" policies under Trump and other politicians of his ilk and as the natural suspicions people have toward vaccines abate we are seeing dramatic cuts in the the death rate. But thanks for the rage statistics.


    [​IMG] What save lives in my state? Are you kidding???

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    You want one, just ask. Did you notice that you didn't provide a source for your fake news number for Trump?

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-cases/
    Your claim is flamebait. You posted Fake News and I simply corrected it.
    No it isn't.

    Daily Death tolls are more than double what they were a year ago under Trump when there were NO vaccines.
    He only served one term. Biden's been President for going on ten months and there is no Federal Mask or Vaccine mandate, same as with Trump.
     
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    Once again in your raging propaganda piece you've forgotten the resistance people have been putting up against vaccines much of which was spurred on by Trumps death optional policies and the sick republican governors who are against widespread usage of vaccines. Your stats are B.S. but you take solace in the idea that the death rate is too high.

    his is idiotic”: Mayors defy Ron DeSantis’ threat to fine cities “millions” for vaccine mandates
    "We’re not going to let our own governor put our residents in danger," says Miami Beach Mayor Do
    https://www.salon.com/2021/09/14/th...to-fine-cities-millions-for-vaccine-mandates/

    As I've said as we slowly turn away from the "death optional" policies under Trump and other politicians of his ilk and as the natural suspicions people have toward vaccines abate we are seeing dramatic cuts in the the death rate. But thanks for the rage statistics.


    [​IMG] What save lives in my state? Are you kidding???

    Wrong! Cases are falling and will continue to fall as more and more people take the vaccine. Vaccine hesitancy is beginning to decline.

    COVID Cases Are Falling, but U.S. on the Brink of 700,000 Dead
    https://www.usnews.com/news/health-...ses-falling-but-hospitals-brace-for-next-wave

    A decline in COVID-19 cases across the United States over the past several weeks has given overwhelmed hospitals some relief.

    By Associated Press
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    Oct. 1, 2021, at 6:06 p.m.

     
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    I remember my mother did home cooking and there were two recipes. One where you made a meal from fresh/new ingredients and the other were meals designed from the left overs of old meals. Even old bread had the mould picked off and put into a Bread and Butter pudding. We walked up town three to four times a week to by ingredients that was served up in paper and milk was delivered. No fridge so everything was sat on the stone slab in the pantry and milk bottles in a bucket of water. No such thing as frozen food. So very little litter and very little energy use but people scream at me to change my car to save the planet.

    And as each day goes by, I find more and people who have had COVID, some vaxxed, many not and they're fine after a few days. A month or two when COVID first kicked off, I lost my taste for a few days, did I have COVID? I've been vaxxed because her indoors kept whining about it and I wrote to the doctors to take me off the booster jab list.

    One thing is for sure, this COVID business has highlighted that many are pathetic and whiny.
     
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    So when we were paying half of what we are paying now that was a bad thing?
     
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    So you love the inflation, higher costs, rampant illegal immigration, no more energy independence, begging big corporations for help, benefitting big pharma at the expense of far better and cheaper treatments, and leaving Americans behind to the Taliban? Fascinating.
     
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    The distrust of the government and the medical institutions is understandable. So at least I can see an antivaxxer's perspective. What is baffling is the other side, who are willing to starve their fellow citizens, or deny them life-saving surgery and a host of other things. The fact that a large chunk of our population is willing to do that is what sparks end of the world thoughts.
     
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    If their handlers started putting people in camps for non-compliance I think the rabid leftists would be tickled pink.

    There is nothing more oppressive than a leftist with power. See French and Russian Revolutions. This is what happens when they are unchecked. The Greatest Generation were the moral authority, now that they are gone we have no compass.
     
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    Of course, nothing like the flip flop of Biden on the vaccine mandate... I'm sure that a reasonable flip flop.

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    Biden is letting in millions of unvaccinated and symptomatic illegals and spreading them throughout the country and you’re complaining about masks which even liberals dont wear and Fauci said we’d never need.
     
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    He does it too. Maybe not as much, but he does it.

    If you say so.

    If cops refuse to do their jobs then response time will surely worsen. It will take time to get them replaced.
     
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    Flame-baiting. I simply refuted your fake news with properly sourced facts.
    Is due to their legitimate self-assessment of their own individual balancing risks.
    More groundless flame-baiting rather than reasonable sourced points.
    Fake News. Biden's current daily death toll, with three working vaccines, and over 80% of the adult population at least partially immune is more than double what Trump's was a year ago with NO vaccine immunity.
    It's not me raging against well sourced facts grounded in reality.
     
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    But Biden says those hatians that walked here from south America aren't planning to stay.
     
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