Biden Weighs Deploying Thousands of Troops to Eastern Europe and Baltics

Here's your answer, Bill -- Biden can do anything that NATO (i.e., the European Central Bank and the IMF) wants done in Ukraine, practicing the same logic and methods used when France gulled Obama into overthrowing the legitimate government of Libya in 2011! It's easy!

All any NATO member-nation has to do is call for the others to take action against some other country which it doesn't like, and -- if that country is comparatively weak, as Libya was, then the government of that country gets attacked. So, Gaddafi, who was very tough on Islamo-Nazi factions that were raising hell in Libya, was overthrown. The rest is history.

I've had this argument a dozen times with those who defended Obama's deliberately breaking our law, the War Powers Act, to do France's bidding, and that's always the excuse they provide... if the action is taken under the guise and 'auspices' of NATO, then it's perfectly OK....

. "Yeah, it was easy for Obama to pull that on a country with no air force...."

 

Because Trump was anti-NATO and indirectly served Russian interests by weakening Ukraine's position.

That's why.

 

Hence why they do everything in their power to rewrite it.

 

In addition, Trump weakened America's influence and trashed NATO, Vlad likely planned this for Trump's second term regardless and delayed it when his election 'help' was thwarted this time. it's not so much weakening Ukraine (they were weak to begin with) but he weakened NATO.

 

Yup, because the real history is not friendly or kind to them

 

Well looks like the T-Rail is in full swing in this thread..

 

Let's be honest, shall we?! Trump was never "anti-NATO" but was Anti "not pulling your weight" as the US was funding the vast majority of NATO while always contributing the most in regards to collateral damage.

The Russian narrative you all keep spinning is getting weaker and weaker each and every time. The US destablized Ukraine in 2014 then allowed Russia to invade Donbas and allowed the take over Crimeria under Obama. Now under Biden, they are pretty much going to allow for Russia to get the band back together as Ukraine is the breadbasket of Eastern Europe. Lots of dollars to be made for the "Big guy" and Hunter.

 

Reflective post.

 

And why we focus on Ukraine, China is quietly building up forces near Taiwan. They surely know they are dealing with the weakest administration to ever hold office.

China sends 39 warplanes toward Taiwan, largest in new year

 

Let me rephrase that.

Trump has not been a unifier among NATO allies.

He criticized them, he even despised some of them, the MAGA applauded because they thought it was a show of strength of character but the results are appalling.... like almost all of Trump's foreign policy.

And I'm not talking about blackmailing Zelensky to get information on Biden for military aid.

So much so that Putin thought he could install a pro-Russian puppet in Ukraine with the blessing of the US.

Fortunately, there is a new sheriff in town and the real interests of the US are back on the agenda.

How ?

 

Taiwan is another concern and Biden has been very clear on the issue.

It's a matter of protecting democracy.

What did Trump do when there were anti-China demonstrations in Hong Kong?

Cricket....

 

Hey man, didn't you get the memo? NATO is only 'defensive'. That's what they all say. The former country of Yugoslavia, destroyed by NATO, would beg to differ.

NATO is a ****ing scam. NATO also has no authority to enter Ukraine but we both know it's all bullshit. The war mongers love their corruption and if a few young men and women have to die for them to get richer to 'defend' an armpit like Ukraine, then so be it.

 

Well, you are right about what NATO did to Yugoslavia, and it's very obvious that French president, Sarkozy, leveraged Obama and NATO to destroy the anti-Islamo-terrorist government that existed in Libya.

But, I'm of two minds -- if we and our 'partners' in NATO are going to have a war with Russia, it may be better to do so NOW than to wait. Why? Because as we, the once-great-and-powerful-United States, crumble down into being an ever-deepening pile of divided, dispirited, disorganized pile of sh*t, the Russians and the Chinese are growing far more powerful and effective throughout the entire Eastern Hemisphere in everything they do. And, at the rate things are going, by the end of Biden's term in office, it will be too late for us to turn things around.

By contrast, our opponents, Russia and China have been greatly relieved to see a dangerously unpredictable, mercurial president like Trump booted out and a mentally-vacant machine politician like Biden come in.

What's probably coming in the next few years? Ever seen one of those "DP" porn videos where two guys are having lots of fun at opposite ends of the same woman...? In my parody example, 'her' name is the United States of America, and I think you can guess who 'the two guys' are....

 

Cuck-in-Chief Biden is not deploying U.S. troops to Ukraine, nor will he deploy U.S. troops to Ukraine.

Putin knows that the POTUS before him is a cuck (unlike the one before him) and Putin learned this while Biden was Obama's hand-picked "foreign policy expert" (lol) and they want sucking up to Putin with their little plastic "reset" buttons, scrapped Mean Man Bush's missile defense plan in Eastern Europe, let Bashar al-Assad cross their red lines in Syria, did nothing to halt Putin's Anschluss Campaign in Ukraine in 2014 and refused to sell lethal weapons to the Ukrainians. To make matters worse, Biden reminded Vlad the Invader that he was a cuck when he took orders from the Taliban in Afghanistan and canceled the routine deployment of two destroyers to the Black Sea last year for fear it might upset Putin and his siloviki mafia in the Kremlin.

Which, thankfully, his predecessor did.

'Trump is having an impact': NATO head credits president's tough talk for $100B boost
William Cummings
USA TODAY
Jan. 27, 2019
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/01/27/nato-chief-credits-trump/2695799002/

Donald Trump Era Left NATO Stronger, Baltic Allies Say
BY DAVID BRENNAN ON 10/15/21 AT 7:05 AM EDT
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-nato-baltic-allies-stronger-1639290

Lefties cried because Trump shamed the deadbeats across The Pond, but America got the results it wanted and NATO got the results it needed.

Biden has done just that, and if Putin wants a land bridge to the Crimean peninsula the Cuck-in-Chief won't stop him.

Fortunately, I think that's where Putin's territorial ambitions end.

 

Congratulations. You got that precisely ass backwards.

The U.S. was a superpower before NATO even existed. The U.S. made NATO the alliance it is today.

Perhaps, perhaps not.

What we do know is that without the U.S. NATO is nothing. It is a pipsqueak that can't even sustain a bombing campaign against a Third World pushover like Libya.

 

Yes, I do have a thought.

WHY is Biden much more concerned about securing Ukraine's border than he is about securing OUR OWN border??

 

First, you're Mr NATO and now you are dismissive of Germany? [/quote]I invite you to read what France and UK think about Putin's intentions.

I will repeat myself...[/quote]
That's your problem, not mine.

Gee, back to Mr NATO. Did you already forget what you said about Germany?

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You're lost again. You do not live in a Military Dictatorship. If you want Americans to die in order to secure the borders of Ukraine, you first have to make a positive case to Congress and the American People laying out a case of overwhelming strength, explaining why our family member, our blood and treasure, should be sacrificed to secure the borders of Ukraine.

Now you are back to being Mr. NATO. Did you already forget what you said about Germany?

If there are nations nearer to Ukraine that wish to sacrifice their blood and treasure to secure the borders of Ukraine, they are free to do so. Ukraine is not in the NATO alliance. And of course, we are free to operate militarily, outside of the alliance, so make your case.

 

He ye forgets.

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Follow the money. I've never understood why Podesta, and Vindman, and all these US political operatives, on both sides of the isle are so involved in Ukraine. This all came out during the Trump Hoax impeachment and has yet to be explained, but, I see no evidence that it's because OUR interests are stake, rather, there is a group of of self-styled elitists that I suspect are up to no good. Well, they are welcome to spend their OWN blood and treasure on military adventurism. If they want ours, they need to make a convincing case to Congress and the American People. After all it's not US that filibustered opening Nordstream II, it was the Democrats. It was not us that shut down the pipeline from Canada and now has increase US oil imports from Russia, it was Biden.

It's not us that is stopping Israel from supplying Europe with Natural Gas so that they are less dependent on Putin gas, it's the Biden Administration. It was not our son who had a No Show Multi Million dollar job with Ukraine energy producers, it was Joe Biden's and Nancy Pelosi's. I don't know what the hell is up between the Deep State, Russia and Ukraine, but, they have some explaining to do if they want the US to go to war to secure the borders of Ukraine.

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Bingo. You hit the nail on the head there... Kinda interesting how a number of prominent politicians have their grubby hands in Ukraine, eh??

 

@Arkanis where did you go man?

 

I can explain it.

Democrats and their corrupt pals have a LONG history of sleazing around and enriching themselves in the former Soviet republics going back to the Clinton Administration. The sick part is that their greed has cost us the good will of the Russian people and paved Vladimir Putin's path to power, and Biden & Co. may wind up poisoning our relations with the Ukrainian people in the same fashion.

This is a somewhat long article but it's worth the effort, and you'll note that the Left's favorite billionaire, George Soros, makes a special appearance:

The Harvard Boys Do Russia
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/harvard-boys-do-russia/

 

Well, Biden didn't hesitate to end our efforts at building a democracy in Afghanistan.

Trump, unlike a whole lot of other Presidents in a row, did not get us into a new military conflict I know that you see that a bug, but, the American People see it as a feature.

You are more than welcome to spend your blood and treasure securing the borders of the Ukraine, but, if you want US blood and treasure, you have to make the case to the American People and to Congress, an overwhelming case for why now, especially since Obama/Biden did not see the need when Russia took Crimea or Donbass, but, after Ukrainian Oligarchs shovel $Millions to Paul Pelosi, Hunter Biden and Tony Podesta, now its suddenly worth war to secure Ukraine's borders?

Perhaps, I await the proponents case explaining that to Congress and the American People.

 

Correct.

Biden is seen here negotiating with the Taliban about that.

Obama did not start a war, no.

In fact, no Democrat POTUS has ever done so.... for 55 years.

Economic crises and war are the Republicans' specialty.

The pressure is mounting but it isn't yet war.

I have and I repeat, not stopping Putin would be repeating the same mistakes that led to WW2.

If Ukraine falls under Russia's rule, Putin will take advantage of the weakness of the NATO allies and invade all these neighbors.

But maybe that's what the MAGA wants, considering how sympathetic you are to Vladimir.

 

I am here.

You think I'm running away from you?

You're comparing Trump's blackmail of Zelensky with Biden's pressure to fire the corrupt Ukrainian prosecutor.

The two have absolutely no connection.

That's my answer.