You are off topic, discussing posters not the post , defending a vile sick statement. You: """Would you approve an abortion when you dearly love the female?"" The "female"? THAT is how you refer to women? Like they're animals? The "female"??? Since I believe they are human I will call them women and say that women do NOT need anyone's approval to get an abortion.. You: """While any argument can show some inconsistencies, the one consistent thing from him is he defends the not yet born. He sees them as little moms or little dads. They to him are quite valuable. """ So valuable he calls them animals if they don't meet his approval??? Would you call someone who thinks women are animals Pro-LIFE ?
I will be happy to admit I am wrong about you. How many of these precious humans have you opened your home to? If you are passionate about your cause, what are you doing other than posting on forums? Disclaimer: This is aimed at those who believe that abortion should not be a choice.
Oh, stop it....the meaning is obvious.... """"""""If they get pregnant through their own negligence and have an abortion, they ARE ANIMALS. """ It was NOT meant as a compliment so why don't you quit trying to defend the indefensible......
I am spreading the message given to me by a very delightful woman whose job is on TV as a reporter. She told us her story of her life saved when her mom suddenly changed her mind and gave birth. Most, nay ... not most, all of the Democrats hate the story. I am told it is off topic. Abortion is a topic but her story of evading abortion seems never to be the topic. I wish she had time to show up to post her story.
You just posted to this one .......but it's obvious you really have no defense for that vulgar , disgusting statement and just don't want to admit it .... - - - Updated - - - What if she did? It wouldn't change science or law or the Constitution or the rights of women.....
I guess you must show me where I claimed to change science or law or the constituiton. Matter of fact, give me the precise words in the constitution you claim that says abortion? Show me the science behind the cold blooded execution of the helpless? You have this shuck and jive tale that I must spend my day defending a Poster over his views. He is the professional. He has laid out his case. But he gets called a liar. And you consider that debate?
No, her little story will NOT change science or law or the Constitution (which upholds our rights , did you miss how the Supreme Court Justices slammed dunked an anti-Abortion law in Texas ? ) No one is a professional psychologist who refers to women as animals.....ethical professionals and DECENT people do not refer to women as animals... You don't know debate....that's where brave people answer questions. You consider THIS statement debate????: """""If they get pregnant through their own negligence and have an abortion, they ARE ANIMALS. """
That no doubt is your admission that abortion is not in the constitution. Not a single word that mentions abortion. Look, keep harassing other posters.
She did not and could not "Evade" an abortion....Her mother made a CHOICE not to have one, after she made a CHOICE to have one. Do you understand HOW this works?
Well, I think its a great story and agree that abortion should be avoided. The best part was when she changed her mind. Its her body, her mind, and her decision. Democrats need to stay our of our pockets and Republicans need to stay out of uteri.
WE both do. Evaded an abortion is a better description than your common thinking word choice. Choice about abortion is to condone murder. Choice should not be considered in the issue what so even. Tell it like it is, abortion kills and innocent human, not a dog, not a cat, but a human, and that is gross and when women do it without a bonafide medical reason they are nothing but animals. Some redeem themselves by recognizing what they have done, and express regret for their act. Humanists recognize the value of atonement, and those don't are just biological ANIMALS. If you don't like it, tough, time for you to atone for your support of murder.
I haven't made any claims about being a subject matter expert. I allow the content of my posts to stand on their own merits. When I make a statement of fact I am always willing to back it up if called upon to do so in the event that I don't supply the link alongside the original statement. As far as being able to discern being who is factual and who is BS'ing a good rule of thumb is to do your own homework to see if it checks out. Usually it takes about 3 or 4 posts and it becomes clear where someone stands. Finally a fetus is neither guilty nor innocent since it has no legal standing upon which to make that determination. Until it is granted legal standing that statement is nothing more than emotive drivel.
Sorry to butt in, but you could save some of these lives by offering to raise a few of these unwanted babies. There are already too many unwanted children that will never see the inside of a loving home. Knowing that no one will love or care for the child makes abortion the only other option. Now, If you were to step up and give them another option, they may just take you up on your offer. That is, of course, if you are sincere about preventing this "murder".
The do when they murder innocent children in the womb for convenience and are not regretful. Those women are animals without a conscience. And if there is a hell, I hope they rot there. Your whines are nothing but trying to make a mountain about a mole hill. And I am a good psychologist and when women come to be with that regret and emotional issues derived from post abortion syndrome, they get gentle empathetic counseling. The rest, I wouldn't touch with a 100 ft pole. You don't know debate....that's where brave people answer questions. You consider THIS statement debate????: """""If they get pregnant through their own negligence and have an abortion, they ARE ANIMALS. """ [/QUOTE]
Well there you have it folks...and some people say there is a war against women!! LOL - - - Updated - - - Well we do have the fact that it is legal in every civilized country in the world. So there's that.....lol
I HAVE told you like it is. The primary issue here is that YOU cannot for some reason grasp it. I have stated quite clearly a fetus is both Human and alive. I have also explained it is not a murder under our laws or by definition. Your little emotional outburst and calling a woman the animals you state the fetus is not do not sway anyone to your case or make your opinions more valid....and opinions are all they are. Opinions on which you would like other adult humans to base their entire lives. You got one hell of an Ego problem going on there little man.
I would certainly approve of my wife getting an abortion if it there was any risk to her health, or if we would be condemning our potential child to a brief and painful life. In fact, if my wife found herself unexpectedly pregnant and she felt it was too much for her physically OR emotionally, I would approve of her getting an abortion because she is a real person, and real people have a higher priority than virtual people. Her happiness is more important to me than the personal joy I would have from getting a new child. I observe that you phrase your question in an interesting way: "Does her getting rid of your child mean much to you?" This implies (since I am pro-choice) I always want her to get an abortion, when I have shown no such inclination. What is important to me is the fact that she knew that she had the choice, and she chose to have a child with me. She did not bear a child because the law forced her to. She did that of her own free will.
We have done just that, to include support for the mother and the child through several different organizations, some church sponsored some secularly sponsored. It is obvious you don't understand the issues and will make any low blow possible to criticize pro lifers unreasonably. I don't dodge, I don't remember your query, probably because I get tired of reading such trash.
Because some people are ineducable, and its not me. - - - Updated - - - The deaf and ignorance are on the side of the pro murder in the womb group.
Laws are irrelevant, morality is king. I have shown that what we call PAS is one, being added to the DSM and it is a combination of several disorders I have listed with codes. Obviously you have a hard time reading and remembering. I never ever not answer a question I am asked if I see it. I only read a few pages at a time, and when I start the next day I go to the end and read a few pages in between. I am not here to read all the BS on the forum.
Your comments and erroneous factoids prove differently Lol how ironic, the claim of ignorance towards pro-choice by a person who is ignorant of what murder is and means
No morality has never been king, your morality gives you no right to force others to bend to your desires and wishes. PAS does not exist and there is no future intention of adding it to the DSM, you have listed disorders that you then assume are caused by abortion ie you are guilty of the fallacy of correlation = causation, every study you have cited has been blown apart for it's suspect methodology and exclusion of relevant data, the fact that you indulge in the ostrich syndrome of burying your head in the sand to anything that dares to question your fallacies shows only that you are not intellectually capable of discussing the issue without bias. Perhaps you should delete your own comments then as they are, for the most, BS
Guess it must be universally accepted by ALL conservatives that """""If they get pregnant through their own negligence and have an abortion, they ARE ANIMALS. """. Saying vile things about women seems to be acceptable to them.....
