bioethics of fetal experimentation in conjunction with abortion

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by kazenatsu, Oct 13, 2020.

  1. HonestJoe

    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not ownership but responsibility. A persons next-of-kin have the responsibility for making these kinds of decisions when the person isn't capable of making them. Parents are normally next-of-kin for their children even after they become adults until/unless they marry.
     
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    who else would make the choice when a parent's little child dies, it seems obvious to me that they should make the choice
     
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    Is that what this is all about , blaming women for something, anything ??

    :)
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    TRUE especially """your opening post is all over the place, so hard to tell what you're really asking""


    Notice you didn't get an answer to your question..
     
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    UH , WHEN are you going to show me how you will """blow a hole in some of the usual pro-choice arguments we typically hear"....

    I never did get an explanation for that but that IS the real point of your thread..
     
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    I would say it would also be unethical to prevent her from aborting a clone of Hitler that was growing inside her
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But she has created a situation where it would be unethical for us to interfere with her choice in that situation.

    So because she created that situation, she did bad.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    explained in post #7
     
  9. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    UH , WHEN are you going to show me how you will """blow a hole in some of the usual pro-choice arguments we typically hear"....



    NO, this is what you said in post #7:


    ""If it is true that a woman should be denied choice, in certain situations.
    If it is true that her choice can be clearly ethically/morally wrong, in certain situations.
    If it is true that a woman should not have freedom over "her body" (and by that I am including her developing offspring).

    If it is true that it is a human being, which, while it might not have the right not to be aborted, has the right not to be genetically manipulated and experimented upon.

    To state what should be COMPLETELY obvious, these are all types of reasoning you would need to be able to justify a scenario like this as wrong.

    Although with you, FoxHastings, judging by your past radical abortion views you have expressed, maybe you don't think any of this is wrong?""""




    WHERE did you "blow a hole in a Pro-Choice argument" ? You said " if " a lot...you didn't show any facts...


    And I asked you what you meant by "radical abortion views" and AS USUAL YOU COULD NOT ANSWER.
     
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    :) LOL, Yes, "Woman bad" , Naughty Bad Woman!"
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay, so you approve of this woman scientist's "choice" in the story?
     
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    Uh, you seem desperate....I never said that.

    Twisting what others post to fit your agenda....??? Desperation move.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then you don't approve of this woman's choice?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You either do or you don't, and either way, it won't look good to your side of the argument.

    Which is why you don't want to answer.
     
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    Twisting what others post to fit your agenda....??? Desperation move.



    When I said sarcastically

    "FoxHastings said:
    :) LOL, Yes, "Woman bad" , Naughty Bad Woman!"

    I was making fun of your :

    ""kazenatsu said:
    But she has created a situation where it would be unethical for us to interfere with her choice in that situation.

    So because she created that situation, she did bad. ""

    (Bolding above , mine)

    Anyone can see it wasn't a comment on your OP... but a comment on your attitude towards women..

    I haven't paid any attention to what the woman did in your fantasy world OP.....it doesn't matter...
     
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  16. FoxHastings

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    I keep asking you how this affects "my side of the argument" and you NEVER answer....you can't seem to show any connection at all.

    You can't seem to show your fantasy OP has a point at all and it certainly doesn't "prove" anything about Pro-Choice....it doesn't further the cause of Anti-Choicers to take away women's human rights..

    Why don't you want to answer?
     
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