Black Chairman of Proud Boys Speaks Out after Liars Joe Biden and Chris Wallace Call Them White Supr

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    Excuse for what? For the author of the African American mass incarceration law calling the author of prison reform a racist? I'll support Trump's accomplishment proudly. Will you support the author's law or his VP choice, the prosecutor who broke records enforcing mass incarceration, as proudly?
     
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    Timestamp 0:40.

    Trump asks for a name of "white supremacist groups". Biden and Wallace answer "Proud boys".

    Equally wrong. Only thing Trump says about them is "stand back and stand by". He pretty clearly doesn't know about the group, and never calls them anything.
     
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    Indeed, and you should have a good, long meditation on that statement.
     
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    Or just equate a mixed race group known as the "proud boys" with Timothy MCveigh and tie it all in to "white supremacist" and go "Boo, boogy man"!
    RW bahh baahhh baddddd! (dont forget to ignore and deflect rampant LW radical violence, nationwide)
     
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    Facts are facts sorry you refuse to see any that don't advance the left's lying narrative.
     
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    The Proud Boys know better, they are ecstatic.
     
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    I am not going to chase after mindless BS several times a day.
     
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    TRUMP: What do you want to call them? Give me a name. Give me a name.


    WALLACE: White supremacists — and right-wing militia.


    TRUMP: Go ahead. Who would you like me to condemn?


    BIDEN: White supremacists. The Proud Boys.


    Biden is being sued by Kyl Rittenhouse for calling him a white supremacist in a tweet the other day.
     
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    Trump refused to call out white supremacists in general and the Proud Boys in particular

    The Proud boys hate women
    Foreigners
    Muslims

    They claim not to hate blacks...but hang out with those that do

    They are a bunch of street brawlers. They are a right wing Fight Club

    They need to be ostracized...and Trump could not do that
     
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    Anyone initiating violence should be arrested and prosecuted. So far, every time 'Proud Boys' have been arrested, it was someone else throwing the first punch. We can argue whether they're hoping for a fight and whether thats 'moral' (they are and its not), but hoping for a fight isn't illegal unless you start one. They are just positioning themselves in places where they're likely to be attacked by others who initiate violence.

    If the initiators of violence were being properly addressed by LE, 'Proud Boys' wouldn't be getting the fights they enjoy.
     
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    What is the basis of your accusation that they are a "hate" group? Who do they hate? Where are you hearing they'are going to "plan on harassing voters on election day in minority neighborhoods?"
     
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    Answered two posts previous to your question
     
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    “Let’s not bullshit,” Brian Brathovd, aka Caeralus Rex, told his co-hosts on the antisemitic The Daily Shoah — one of the most popular alt-right podcasts. If the Proud Boys “were pressed on the issue, I guarantee you that like 90% of them would tell you something along the lines of ‘Hitler was right. Gas the Jews.’”

    Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville."

    Let's put your question in reverse, how the F could they not be a hate group??

    The "poll watcher" thing would take more googling than I feel like doing right now. I will tell you the consent degree has expired, and Republicans are planning to take advantage, and both state and local authorities in some states are getting ready for them.

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/proud-boys
     
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    You lie like a cheap toupee
    https://time.com/4899813/donald-trump-charlottes-ville-remarks-transcript/

    20% of Proud Boys are people of color. The international leader is black.

    So, the Democraps' internal polling is telling them that their racist candidate is bleeding black support, launching their/your offensive against the facts,
     
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    I asked what the basis of your accusation was, not simply that you've made an accusation. I'm sure that's good enough for you, but I assumed you were basing the "hate" on something real.
     
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    So if they were pressed on the issue, they would be pro-Hitler, but no one, in all these years, has actually asked them? Heh!

    "Let's put your question in reverse, how the F could they not be a hate group??"

    Huh?
     
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    You tell Proud Boy leader Enrique Tarrio to stop being a White Supremacist.
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    They have a narrative to run with and they dont intend to let pesky facts get in the way!
     
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    He did that for Chris Wallace in 2016: Racist Joe Biden is bleeding Black Support, media to the rescue

    WALLACE: Mr. Trump, Romney also talked about your position on race, and the controversy over your failure to denounce David Duke on Sunday. You have repeatedly disavowed him since then, but I’d like to go deeper than that. What are your views on the Klu Klux Klan, and white supremacists?


    TRUMP: I totally disavow the Klu Klux Klan. I totally disavow David Duke. I’ve been doing it now for two weeks, this is your — you’re probably about the 18th person that’s asked me the question. It was very clear, that question was also talked about in the form of groups. Groups, I want to know which groups are you talking about? You have to tell me which groups?


    Ultimately, he got to the Klu Klux Klan, which obviously I’m going to disavow. And, by the way, if you look on my Twitter account, almost immediately after the program they were disavowed again.


    You know, it’s amazing. When I do something on Twitter, everybody picks it up, goes all over the place. But, when I did this one nobody ever picks it up. Take a look at my Twitter account.


    WALLACE: Thank you, sir.





    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/04/...epublican-presidential-debate-in-detroit.html
     
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    "The Proud Boys, a far-right group with a history of violent confrontations, is gaining increased national scrutiny as academics and advocates have warned the group has ties to white supremacy.

    That's worrying to Amy Cooter, a Vanderbilt University senior lecturer who studies nationalism, race and ethnicity. Cooter told USA TODAY on Wednesday that the Proud Boys have a history of tolerating racism among their ranks, associating with overtly racist figures and are becoming increasingly armed as they mingle with other right-leaning groups."
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...tioned-debate-has-violent-history/5868406002/

    They public deny they are racist, but they also say they have rules against violence. So much for what they say...

    The extreme Right is almost always racist and anti-Semitic, and Proud Boys members have been known to say racist and anti-Semitic things.

    After the crazy Right got hit with lawsuits, most of them got coy about admitting what they were.

    But if you travel hundreds or thousands of miles, to bust heads at a BLM protest, the question can't be avoided.

    I wouldn't mind being wrong, but it really doesn't feel like that's going to happen this time.
     
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    Ignoring all the crime right next door at the same time, cause the people committing it are of the right skin color. LOL
    Its a BullS$%t ploy. They travel in the name of protection while there's crime right in their neighborhood. Then they are the ones actually damaging property..they were caught in a mass message remember.
     
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    Because they're not leftist and loathing Donald Trump?

    Where? Link please.

    And then the patented slippery-slope-they're-all-racists-just-believe-me....

    You read it here first, boys'n'girls! Hang out with right wingers and next thing you know you're wasting a kindergarten! Good grief, somebody's gotta STOP that Constitutional right to free assembly!

    Oh good, you got the new master plan from Evil Conservative HQ. I'm afraid my copy got lost with my ballot in the mail. Does it say when the big water cannon clean-out begins at the DNC headquarters?
     
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    Mass message! Is that like hitting COPY TO in the email setup?
     
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    You have to join their private Discord...I cant share my user name..but its official, They are a hate group.
    If you want proof just hang out for like 20 min.
     
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    Get with the times?
     

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