Blacks not responsible for most crime

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  1. fishinD

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    You mean like when the entire US police force of 500 thousand or so, are judged by the actions of a few, all we are seeing is ignorant prejudice and stereotyping? I concur!!!
     
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    It really bad thing. Race has nothing to do with it. High crime is always a bi-product of bad government.
    High crime in NYC was stopped quickly when Giuliana reformed policing in the city.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes, and a VERY small percentage of them have committed murder or robbery.

    its less than .001%

    therefore racial profiling is bigoted bullshit.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    cops are supposed to be the good guys and not act like criminals.

    when the police act like violent thugs, society is on the verge of collapse or fascism.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For obvious reasons, murder is the most serious of all crimes while property crimes like for example auto theft occupy far less importance. For a group that comprises only 12% of the population to produce 45% of the murders is an ENORMOUS number. Do you agree?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1,500 murders.

    45 million people.

    what percent of the population is that?

    .000033
     
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    Please tell me that you do not believe that there are only 1500 murders per year in this country? You are confused.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    by black people? yep.

    thats according to the FBI official data
     
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    And the number for white on white murder is similar.

    I guess white people are far more to worry about from other white people huh?
     
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    Ha. It's easier to post with an apology with a view to not being kicked off the board, than staying silent without offering an explanation in the higher probability that you will get booted.
     
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    You are confused. There are about 16k murders per year in this country and being close to 50% of that number would be far closer to 8k.

    Your link is for arrests specifically in suburban areas. Did you not know that? Bless your little heart.
     
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    So then you're ok with judging all the police based on the actions of a few bad apples.
    But not ok with doing the same on the black community.

    Hypocrisy noted.

    See, I prefer not to judge any large group, based on the actions of the few. But that's just me, I don't care about partisanship. I look at Everything rationally.
     
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    ~ And this is likely to be the reason "Conservatives seem to be a little shy about this thread. " ;)
    ~ What does Kenya have to do with crime statistics in the USA ..?
     
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    By the way, your link is not valid. It is only the suburban areas.
    Here is a better one. You may have to run more calculations.
    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/topic-pages/tables/table-43
    Highlighted a few for you:
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    On the subject of blacks, crime, and statistics-

    You know the popular understanding of serial killing as a "crazy white guy thing"?

    Turns out, that's a myth. Black men are actually OVER-REPRESENTED in the ranks of American serial killers.
    Some of the worst American serial killers have been black guys.

    https://www.ranker.com/list/black-serial-killers/ranker-crime

    "Household name" serial killers and their body counts- BTK(10), Zodiac(5), Boston Strangler(13),Ted Bundy(30). Charles Manson(0 by his own hand) All of them infamous killers.

    Okay, how about Samuel Little? Name doesn't ring a bell? That's weird, because he's America's most prolific serial killer. He killed more victims then all the killers I listed above combined.

    Oh, and he's black.

    https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/samuel-little-most-prolific-serial-killer-in-us-history-100619

    How about Carl Watts? Sound familiar? No?

    Coral Eugene Watts The Sunday Morning Slasher - ThoughtCo
    www.thoughtco.com › ... › Serial Killers

    Jan 19, 2019 - Carl Eugene Watts, dubbed “The Sunday Morning Slasher,” murdered 80 women in Texas, Michigan and Ontario, Canada, from 1974-1982.

    Carl targeted almost exclusively white women, and he would kidnap his victims, or break into their homes, and he would rape and torture them, sometimes for days on end.

    Compare Carl Watts to David Berkowitz(Son of Sam) who would sneak up on unsuspecting couples in their cars, shoot them, and then run away like a little sissy boy. He never so much as laid a hand on any of his victims- all six of them.

    Son of Sam killed half a dozen people by hit-and-run sneak attack, and he's a legend. Everybody knows his name.

    Carl Watts was a one-man plaque. A raping, torturing demon who racked up a huge body count. Ever heard of him?

    Of course you haven't- he was a black guy, and serial killing is a crazy white guy thing.
     
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    my link was 100% valid, it was only a year older.


    EDIT. oh **** you are right!!!!!!!

    now i have to add them up. ugggg
     
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    Funny how you avoid capita, really puts your data and post in a precarious light ;)
     
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    If blacks are responsible for one-third (33%) of the violent crime, yet they make up only 13% of the population, that would mean that they are disproportionately responsible for one-third of the violent crime, clearly undercutting your mythological, hagiographical conception of blacks that is fundamental to this thread's premise.
     
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    Indeed, Racism is very wrong.

    In USSR 1960s, many officials thought that few Jews should be admitted to Higher Education. It was argued that too many Jews are guilty of Treason in Cold War. Nikita Khrushev was 100% against discrimination. My parents were admitted to University prior to 1968, when Leonid Breznev instituted discrimination.

    Discrimination against African Americans in USA at that time was worse then discrimination of Jews in USSR. Some racism persits in USA 2020.
     
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    The data show that blacks are much more likely to be a violent criminal than people of any other race.

    The FBI homicide statistics are very telling. According to the US Census Bureau, blacks are 13.4% of the population. Yet they commit a whopping 45.3% of homicides.

    The rape statistics are notable too, because many argue that blacks are more likely to be criminals because of poverty. However, since there is no monetary gain from rape, the poverty excuse holds no water.

    Of course the two main reasons that young black males have such a higher propensity to commit violent crime are low IQ and high testosterone. It's a bad combination that is made worse by a thug culture that glorifies street violence.
     
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    Exactly right. I am not sure why the OP showed this statistical matrix, thinking it would back up his premise. The OP committed an ironic non sequitur, citing something that actually contradicts what he says, thinking it bolstered it.
     
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    You're only making it worse. Do you not understand the statistics you're giving up show 12% of the population accounts for 53.3% of the murders? In plain English, 12% of the population commits the majority of murders. And if you look at that chart, once again 12% of the population commit crimes at a percentage that far exceeds their population ratio.

    If you need further convincing, your latest chart shows white people, who vastly outnumber blacks, committing 44.1% of the murders, and that includes Hispanics.

    In head-to-head numbers, your chart shows whites/hispanics committing 3,953 murders while blacks committed 4,778. In this category alone, blacks commit the most murders regardless of how many of them there are.

    I love black people, why are you trying to make them look bad?
     
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    I am not sure why you are trying to minimize the reality that blacks represent 12% of the population yet they commit 53% of all of the murders which is an enormous percentage of all murders for such a small group. I am not exactly sure whom is advocating "fear of black people", but it would be wise for people to understand the percentages associated with violent crime.

    The reality is that if you and i were driving in a car that broke down in a bad neighborhood at night, and we had to get out and walk, the same people that we encountered that put me on edge would be the same people that put you on edge. The same people that made me feel comforted would be the same that would make you feel comforted. For that matter, that scenario could also involve a black man and he too would have the same instincts as you and I. When it really matters, our interpretation of danger wouldn't vary much from one individual to the next. You can rest assured, the 65 year old couple walking down the street would worry none of us. The 15-30 year olds that look like gang bangers ( no matter their race) walking down the street would worry all of us. Whom represents a higher likelihood of danger is truly not a mystery.
     
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