#BLM protesters in Washington DC set American flag on fire on the 4th of July

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  1. Gdawg007

    Gdawg007 Well-Known Member

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    How do you know they are Marxists? Start by telling me what your definition of a Marxist is because I doubt it's accurate. Don't use google please, your own words.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Racism is actions, not objects. Pro tip, when you go looking for "racism" everywhere you will find it.
     
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    Gdawg007 Well-Known Member

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    So...you guys really like flags? I don't know what to say. Loving a flag and yet supporting policies that oppress others doesn't make you a good person in case you were wondering.
    False. I went looking for racism among decent people and found none. I find it here all the time...

    As for your claim racism is actions not objects, then you should tell me what the Confederate battle flag stands for. Here are the Confederacy's own words, since you clearly have never read them. Below is article IV, section 3:

    https://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_csa.asp

    This was what they fought for under that flag. The only way you can use that flag is to...gosh...erase actual written history...
     
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    Nice rant. A flag means only what meaning you see in it. In reality, it's a piece of fabric. You know another thing decent people dont do? Judge others.
     
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    Thanks.

    So what does the Confederate battle flag mean to you then? Please, tell us how the Confederacy got it all wrong and this playful symbol is just something you put up before butchering the riff to Sweet Home Alabama because your parents are siblings. Go on. I genuinely want to hear this. In fact, I would love to hear a coherent, logical argument for the Confederate flag. It would honestly surprise and amaze me.
     
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    Since you want to insult me, stick it in your ear.
     
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    Good Lord! A man who would bow to no one, had his statue eradicated by the Mob that demands the world kneel to them.

    Do We Still Hold These Truths to Be Self-Evident?

    Taking the words of the Declaration together with the preamble to Constitution and Douglass rightly saw the ideas that would inevitably end slavery, as long as the republic endured long enough to see it. In 1852, as now, this was not ironclad. So, to the free man, the Fourth of July represented his guarantee. To those still enslaved, the Fourth of July represented hope of freedom to come. Frederick Douglass’ experience led him to see this more clearly than anyone else of his age and probably anyone since or now.​

    The storm, the whirlwind, and the earthquake Douglass spoke of came, in the form of a destructive civil war. America paid in blood and treasure as it never had before, and slavery was ended. Douglass lived through it as one of abolitionism’s most ardent, eloquent, passionate, and heard spokesman. He had risen from slavery to become a friend of presidents, as a citizen, though not yet in full. Few have the power of oration without experience, and Douglass had experienced it all. He had lived under unjust law. He had broken that law. And he also respected and served the higher law, the Constitution, which he respected as a means of reaching understanding and offering hope. He was a true American on July 4, 1852, more true than many others.​

    On July 4, 2020, people as yet unknown damaged and toppled the statue of Frederick Douglass in Rochester that marks his moment and his speech. The damage was so extensive that it cannot be salvaged.

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    Will Fight Back With Her Ballot
     
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    I didn't JUST insult you, snowflake. I also posted several cogent facts and conclusions you refused to address. In fact, if you started with facts and reasonable conclusions, there would be no reason to feel insulted by my words. But you didn't. You started with nothing and then told me to shut up.

    By all means, defend your little flag. I will read it with an open mind. And ear. Well, eyes.
     
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    The strident protestors and violent rioters want what is already guranteed by law and enforced across the board in every state in the union? Just like all citizens both want and get? Or do they want extra-Constitutional privileges due strictly to the color of their skin? Yeah . . . they want extra-Constitutional treatment.
     
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    Are these not YOUR words, hater?

    Thanks.

    So what does the Confederate battle flag mean to you then? Please, tell us how the Confederacy got it all wrong and this playful symbol is just something you put up before butchering the riff to Sweet Home Alabama because your parents are siblings. Go on. I genuinely want to hear this. In fact, I would love to hear a coherent, logical argument for the Confederate flag. It would honestly surprise and amaze me.


    I lol that you sit here and puff out your chest that you are against hate and display plenty of it yourself. How utterly hypocritical. And I did not tell you to "shut up", get it right. Stick it in your ear.
     
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    It's undeniable . . . especially since JUSTICE was already in motion when the crybabies took to the streets over Floyd. Months of Dem Party sanctioned and approved violence when justice was already in motion when they started.
     
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    Nice catch. Good call. Well done.
     
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    Umm . . . one of the leaders and founders of BLM bragged that they were trained Marxists. One presumes that she would know . . . since she was talking about herself.
     
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    So now every gathering of young black people is a BLM event?

    The 8 year old was victim of a
    Guaranteed by law . . . horse pucky. You can pass all the laws you want to mandate that minorities receive equal treatment, but you can't legislate what people feel, and what they do based on those feelings, legal or not. The fear and hate of those we don't understand is still there.
     
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    As long as they leave the one for George Jefferson alone.
     
  16. Gatewood

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    Yes, anyone with fundamental intelligence knows that you cannot legislate feelings; but you CAN legislate what people do based on those feelings; and it has already been done. It's called the laws of the land. So what all this protesting and violent rioting is really about is a sustained temper tantrum based on the desire for special treatment rather than equal treatment. Well that, and also simply the cynical Dem Party leadership playing murderous politics at the ongoing expense of this nation.
     
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    nope...he got a job, ran a successful business and moved on up....he’s just another uncle tom
     
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    First, then, don't claim you are for equal rights when you're clearly arguing otherwise. This is utter hypocrisy.

    Second, racism today should not be the solution to correct the racism of the past. Two wrongs do not make a right. And it is especially wrong to be racist against the relatively least-privileged whites (middle-class, working-class, and poor whites), who have been discriminated against since this country's founding, starting with being deprived of the franchise; who have fought all this country's wars; who have shed more blood than any other race and class for this country, including for the emancipation of blacks. And it is doubly wrong when the richest whites (rich in either financial or political clout, or simply well-connected, as in legacy admissions), the most privileged, do not have to carry the yoke of affirmative action, and instead leave it to the least-privileged whites; so they can virtue signal about how woke they are, so the mob does not come after them.

    Let me ask you this. If a black descendent of a black slave owner is competing with a white descendent of a white working-class abolitionist who died in the American Civil War for a seat at Harvard, what is the morality in given the seat to the black descendent of the slave owner?
     
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    #BLM protesters in Washington DC set American flag on fire on the 4th of July

    Certainly nobody is surprised about anti-American activity from an anti-American group.
     
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    Yes, but legislating and enforcing are two different things. You can't force everyone in the country to treat minorities fairly. That's been proven.

    https://www.urban.org/features/structural-racism-america

    https://www.businessinsider.com/us-...-their-representation-in-the-us-population-25
     
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    Yes you can. Whites are treated the same as Brown Hispanics and Blacks BY LAW. Welllllll . . . almost the same. True there is Affirmative Action, which unfairly favors minorities at the perpetual expense of White males and -- curiously enough -- Asians; but Omelet versus Egg, eh?
     
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    Whose "they?" The individual making the claim? Or does everyone who "signs up" swear a blood oath to be a Marxist? And if they are Marxists, they are terrible at it for the record. They have not established any control over economic production by the masses. But let's entertain this claim they are Marxists. So what? What is it you fear? It doesn't matter to me. I oppose racism and oppression in the US. I support equal opportunity. I'm sure some Marxists do too. Hell, some child rapists probably do too. Why does it matter?
     
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    I have a habit. I put Marxists and the defenders and advocates of Marxism on ignore.
     
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    Flag burning is just as much a case of free speech as my free speech would be to reply by putting his ass into the hospital, should I get close enough.

    I served that flag. I swore allegiance to that flag. That oath never expired, not ever.
    It is the "rag" giving these bowel-waste pieces of trash the freedom to say they want freedom. It is the international symbol of hope, however imperfect yet striving to become better. It is my country, not theirs. They can leave any time they like, and be damned glad we let them.
     
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    That was Patrisse Cullors. A bit more about her, she mentored under the avowed Marxist, communist and terrorist, Eric Mann, who was a member of the violent US domestic terror group, the Weather Underground, and other radical groups.

    Yup, those BLM people are pieces of **** anti-American Marxists, who want to tear down our nation.
     
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