Boffins quietly cheering the possible discovery of sterile neutrinos

How's this for condescension, WillReadmore . . .

"Astronomers watch a black hole eating a star"

Do you believe it?

https://news.sky.com/story/astronomers-watch-a-black-hole-eating-a-star-11405573

 

Edge of the universe!

I’m not sure you have any concept of the scale involved. The edge of the universe is around 46 billion light years away.

Mars is 12.5 light minutes away. To put that into perspective, if you scale 1 light year to a mile Mars would be 1.5 inches away and the edge of the universe 46 billion miles. So when we say closest it’s really close.

J

 

It what way is that condescending? You seem to be equating condescending to things you don’t accept.

J

 

Mars is right next to us. Since we can't travel faster than the speed of light and since the universe is expanding at faster than the speed of light, no human object could EVER reach the farthest stars we see. Ever. It's hard to believe how big the emptiness is out there.

As an adult, we can pick our sources such that they are factual and not insulting.

 

That's just a factual statement. In includes zero condescension.

 

Just as I thought - you simply don't perceive it. Also, without any proof whatsoever, you even believe the universe is expanding merely because NASA says it is.

 

Another NASA disciple! I find it difficult to believe adults can be so gullible and unquestioning.

 

I accept that criticism - maybe patronizing would be more accurate -

"patronize, ˈpatronise (ˈpӕ-) , ((American) ˈpei-) verb
1. to behave towards (someone) in a way which is kind and friendly but which nevertheless shows that one thinks oneself to be more important, clever etc than that person."

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/patronising

I couldn't have put it better myself.

 

Hopefully negative mass particles, so we can go ftl

 

Not sure why your focused on NASA, unless you’re grouping all scientists under the same umbrella.

As for no proof, why do you think there is no proof? Have you even looked into this in any way? I’d love to see your proof that Mars is at the edge of the universe

If you’d like to give it a go, I suggest you read about parallax and the size of the solar system as a starter.

Parallax is something you can test and measure yourself at small scales where you can physically check your results. The website below has examples and experiments you can do in your own home.

https://eaae-astronomy.org/WG3-SS/WorkShops/Triangulation.html


J

 

"When you hold out a finger and view it only with your left eye, then with your right eye, your finger seems to shift relative to the distant background. This is the phenomenon of parallax."

Yes, I found that out for myself when I was a kid. But it's a bit different measuring the spatial area between a couple of trees (the schematic in the link) and the sheer vastness of deep space, don't you think? It doesn't surprise me that the 'scientists' have latched onto the theory though. Don't believe everything you read - especially NASA's and other space agencies' reports in the multiplicity of space magazines, which pay big bucks to fill their pages with hyperbolic nonsense to increase the circulation numbers.

 

Though I realize I might get dinged for stating this truth by the staff here, I feel it must be said for your benefit and my own peace of mind.

You sir, are a complete nincompoop and unworthy of serious consideration in any discussion that involves rational thought or verifiable data rendering any and all contributions presented little more than dwindling entertainment bordering on trollish idiocy.

 

The principle doesn’t stop working just because you don’t want to believe something, please explain why it doesn’t apply and it’s dfferent. They haven’t “latched” on to anything they have applied a proven theory, it’s been used to measure distances in the solar system and confirmed with radar astronomy.

You seem to be the one spouting option as fact, claims of nonsense and lies by anyone who doesn’t agree with no facts presented. If you don’t agree with something back up your claims.


J

 

There was ZERO condescension in that statement.

There are astrophysicists working at many if not most of our 4 year colleges and universities. There are private organizations. And, there are astrophysicists working in pretty much every first world nation.

You most certainly do NOT have to accept NASA's word on ANYTHING. The do very little that is unique. And, everything they do is reviewed as is all science.

 

Look, WillReadmore, I don't know whether you've missed it, but we're living in an era of fake news, government lies, and official dissembling, so why do you soak it all in without question? Actually I firmly believe NASA began fooling the masses with this nonsense-speak 2 decades ago, and other agencies have now joined in. Our government lies all the time, as do other western governments. Astrophysicists are the charlatans of science, the same as psychiatrists are the charlatans of medicine - they make their lucrative livings by issuing rhetorical nonsense because they know nobody can possibly dispute it.

 

See mine to WillReadmore above.

 

If you are going to claim this is all fake news just because you don't believe it or can't understand it you'll need to go back a lot further than a couple of decades.

Try 1838 when Bessel was the first to use parallax to calculate stellar distances, or Thomas Henderson who used parallax to measure the distance to Alpha Centauri in 1839, the use of parallax really advanced in 1908.

If you would like to read the history around this try

http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/history/HistTopics/Size_Universe.html

or

http://www.bbc.co.uk/earth/story/20160610-it-took-centuries-but-we-now-know-the-size-of-the-universe

This rhetorical nonsense you keep shouting about are experimental results that are repeatable and have undergone peer review since 1800's

J

 

Noted.

 

I don't "soak it all in without question".

I watch multiple sources and follow review by experts in the field across a wide range of sources of that review. That is what we need to get good at doing so we can sift the truth from the noise. It's easier in science than in politics, of course, as with science there is an actual truth and a process for finding it.

NASA could not possibly pull off what you suggest. There are many nations, numerous colleges and universities, and major private scientific and engineering organizations.

Let's remember that the fame of science goes to those who disrupt current thought. We revere Einstein, as he (along with a few others) trashed a major segment of the physics of the day. We know Darwin, because he (along with a few others) countered the leading theories on the source of the enormous number of species we find. If someone wanted to be famous, they would demonstrate the HOLE in current thought. There is very little reward for those who do no more than perpetuate it.

Today, most of those with doctor's degrees in physics don't actually become working scientists in physics. There aren't a lot of openings and most of those opportunities don't pay that well compared to other fields. They go into fields where their applied math skills are so strong - areas such as financial analysis. If they are astrophysicists it is because they are seriously interested - NOT because it's so lucrative.

You keep trying to dump on America. Why? What's your agenda here?

 

Yes, and they've all got one thing in common . . . self-interest, and undemanding jobs for life? Alright, two things in common! lol

Believe me I have no agenda, least of all an anti-America one, other than my need to retaliate when I'm taken for a gullible fool. I might be many things, but being credulous isn't one of them.

 

The evidence is overwhelming it is expanding. They don't know why.

Once again you appear to have no grasp of the science. Your ignorance then becomes a conspiracy. It's easy to understand how they know if you bother to read it.

 

You spout conspiracy because you haven't bothered to read the science. That astounds people.

 

Not 'conspiracy' but bullshit!! You believe it, I don't.