BORDER BOMBSHELL: Brussels Orders EU Countries To SCRAP Internal Checks Within Six Months

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  1. Wehrwolfen

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    BORDER BOMBSHELL: Brussels orders EU countries to SCRAP internal checks within six months

    By Nick Gutteridge, Brussels Correspondent
    May 2, 2017

    BRUSSELS today ordered European countries to drop internal border checks originally introduced to bring the migrant crisis under control within the next six months.

    In an announcement tonight eurocrats said there was no justification for keeping police checkpoints at frontiers within the bloc and said they must be removed by the end of the year.
    The diktat means that Austria, Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Norway will all have to swiftly find alternative ways to police irregular movements of people across their borders.
    France, which has had checkpoints in place at its borders since the November 2015 terror attacks, is the only country to be exempted as it is still in a state of emergency.
    Announcing the measure tonight, the EU’s migration chief Dimitris Avramopoulos said the time had come to “return to a normal functioning of the Schengen area”.
    Border posts have been put up in five member states (file picture)Border posts have been put up in five member states (file picture)
    He added that the five member states, which have been given a final six month extension to get their border controls in order, had been made aware of what was expected of them.
    The Greek official said: “Schengen is one of the greatest achievements of the European project and the most tangible example of European integration.
    “We must do everything to safeguard protect and defend it. But the only way to do this is in a joint, European and coordinated way.
    “What we propose today is to gradually phase out temporary internal border controls whilst at the same time strengthening the usual, proportionate police checks across the territory of the member states.”
    Mr Avramopoulos warned:
    “These temporary border controls, and this goes for all internal border controls, should be exceptional, proportionate and as a last resort for a strict and a limited period.
    “This will be the last prolongation. No more than the next six months. They [member states] know that this is the last prolongation.”​
    However, the member states will not be granted any additional powers to police their borders above and beyond what was already in place two years ago when the migration crisis first began.
    Instead Mr Avramopoulos said national authorities should “make use of the existing police powers more effectively” and cited the example of increasing camera checks on motorway traffic.
    Eurocrats said the border controls could be lifted because the bloc’s external frontiers, which are not patrolled by a centralised Brussels coastguard, are more secure.

    Source: http://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...mber-states-drop-migrant-crisis-border-checks

    The EU has turned out to be a suicide pact. Absolutely irresponsible and insane.
    They’ve been infiltrated, just like France and Czechoslovakia at the start of WWII. Why else set up the playing field to make Sharia easy? On the other hand the new Fascist Germany...
    “France, which has had checkpoints in place at its borders since the November 2015 terror attacks, is the only country to be exempted as it is still in a state of emergency.”
    Funny how France for now is exempted, when it just happens to have an election where immigration is a major issue, in one day.
    This is unwise, of course. Europeans are so consumed with wanting to be seen as friendly that they are ready to waste it upon persons upon whom it is known to be wasted.
    I find it strangely prophetic, the Muslim hordes were stopped at the gates of Vienna and pushed back across the Mediterranean in the 16th Century at great loss of life. Today they have achieved much, much more without virtually firing a shot on the shores of Europe.
     
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    They might as well all get ready for more terrorist attacks now.

    England has done well to begin to extricate itself from this self-defeating, suicidal mess. I wonder how Muslim well being became so powerful in their governance?
     
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    Amazing to me how European nations have just handed over their sovereignty to Brussels. *shakes head*
     
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    No wonder the Brits had the good sense to get the hell out of this irresponsible insanity. But hey, the people of the Eurozone will get what they deserve, just as the American people got the oligarchy here that they deserved. For in democratic nations, their citizens will always get the gov't that they deserve. No one to blame but themselves.

    But I will say this. This will not end well. How can it? The west seems to be living under a new paradigm. Where at one time, governance meant managing a nation with the goal of not creating insolvable problems, by the use of wisdom, and common sense, which really has never been that common. But that is gone with the wind. It is the certain insanity of the modern age, where ideas no longer need be connected to reality and what reality will deal out, inevitably. To be able to foresee where policies will lead, what they will cause, and then to create policy very carefully to eliminate as much as possible negative consequences is totally lacking today. Not only in Europe, but even here in the US. We live in an age of incoherence, where what it took thousands of years to learn, by trial and error, has been thrown out and ignored. All of the mistakes of the past, which generally served as a teacher, no longer have relevance. We now repeat the same actions, that history taught ended in problems and failures, thinking that this time these actions will work. Or repeating the same actions while expecting different results. Humanity, in the west has developed a dangerous amnesia, for to remember what the past taught us, is seen as regressive.

    If this follows what history shows us, time and time again, the idiots in control will end up hanging from oak trees and humanity has to purge the stupidity, the corruption, the schemes, thought up by a group of elites who live in a bubble, impervious and protected from the destruction they create. After all, there is only a very thin gossamer veneer that separates us, modern civilized people, from the barbarism of Mongol hordes. I saw this personally once upon a time, long ago, and never forgot that lesson. Unlike so many people, I understand what our species is, and what we are capable of, and it isn't nice. All it has ever needed was a catalyst. Therefore it has always been 100 percent predictable.
     
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    The EU yet again bangs a few more nails into it's own coffin.
     
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    Maybe they think their SIS system can do a better job, since it searches the entire EU database as opposed to individual countries who do not have access to all the data.

    https://euobserver.com/justice/137530
     
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    This topic is comedy right? Typical american idiocy at its best.

    Do you know what those border checks look like? They check maybe evry 1000th car. They stop no one. Its idiotic to prolong this. What must be done is to block 3rd worlders outside europe. This is done sucessful in Spain, in Macedonia as well. Italy fails.

    We need to use lethal force there. Not just against 3rd worlders but also against NGO. Who happen to be american.
     
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    Border control is pretty much a data game, if your fingerprints and passport are not in the database to be flagged then it's highly unlikely you'll be stopped at an individual country's checkpoint.

    Also think this "internal check" scrap is perhaps to motivate countries to share information, if you withhold information you're placing yourself at risk because it means it's not in the EU database.
     
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    The EU will need to be fundamentally revised, because while it works as an economic zone, and a military alliance (NATO), from a political standpoint it is an abject failure, and there is no way these nations will comply with this order.
     
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    There will be resistance, I wonder what effect this will have on the French election.
     
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    IMO they will comply because it will save money and avoid responsibility.
     
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    Dereliction of duty, a government must protect its citizens. This will exacerbate the Euroskeptics.
     
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    It should because it was designed by the East German Stasi. Whoops I wasn't supposed to make that remark about Germany.
    My bad....
     
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    'Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.'? As One Mind said - we've got out just in time, although strictly speaking we're still subservient to the EU fiasco. But I can just imagine what our PM would say if the charlatans started chucking their weight around where the UK is concerned. As to the topic itself - it's so bizarre I can hardly believe it; it's like having a death wish.
     
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    So, England is out and France is exempted, both are old WW2 allies of the US.
    Does that ring a bell?
    The US is the ruling empire where plans and strategies are hatched.

    Dr. Mark Christian, an Egyptian-born former Muslim who served in the Egyptian military, told World Net Daily earlier this week the refugee crisis in Europe is an orchestrated event.
    “The media is making this out to be a spontaneous refugee crisis when this is actually a very organized event,” Christian said.

    https://www.infowars.com/refugee-crisis-planned-invasion-of-europe/

    Europe becomes the New Third World Country, especially Germany is targeted.
    2 WWs didn't kill the Germans, but the refugees will!
     
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    Well- the Federal system works reasonably well in the US.
     
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    You mean like the Israel system ? Bomb an area and then shoot whoever runs out of it .
     
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    I´m German. I´m responsible for the fate of one country: Germany.

    Spare me this bullshit. We have some Palis in Germany. Tehy behave like dirt. Organize in clans, live from drug deals and prostitute sales. They are plain and simple scum. Germany took them from Lebanon to help them. If this scum behaves like that in Germany, the country that gave them mercy...they show what kind of people they are.

    I´m not responsible for the world. We have the technology and power to protect ourself. If this needs lethal force so be it.
     
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    Not lethal force, I don't think, but certainly it would need to be enforced judicial repatriation. I wish I could say that you (and Sweden) have my sympathy, but I'm afraid you brought it upon yourselves because of your extreme liberalism.
     
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    My extreme Liberalism? Im eastern german. We hunted refugees out of our towns. Voted far right into regional parliaments and made ministers flee our cities with smoking wheels. We are The reason why Merkel changed her policies and now wants to Mass deport. Western germans are weaklings. We are powerful. In my hometown they Burned Down the building intended for migrants. Check your facts before insult us. Liberalism is your western bullshit. That Germany was once divided saved us. In east we are true Germans. In West are mostly americanized weaklings.
     
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    Without firing a shot.....
     
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    The correct, non suicidal answer to the diktat is found in one word...'no'.
     
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    Please don't generalize and stereotype. It's not ALL the U.S. It's just the progressive liberals not only in the U.S. but those who are rearing their ugly heads all over the EU as well such as Angela Merkel and Macron of France. And if I was to pick the real culprits at the bottom of this, my guess would be on those in the Middle East who before the 2016 election were buying Hillary off with billions to her bogus foundation. Therefore anyone with a brain would naturally assume these same benefactors would be doing likewise to all other EU nations. Why else would anyone with a clear mind harbor religious terrorist fanatics from other countries if not paid or blackmailed?
     
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    Sobo there lives there so he'd know that these checkpoints are really just in name only so he'd know right? .. accomplishing little from a safety standpoint.

    I also believe that posters who are thinking the removal of these checkpoints is a big deal are either uninformed OR operating on dated data.

    Since just January the people of Germany and many other countries in the EU have made it loud and clear that mass immigration or the the assistance to mass numbers of refugees is unacceptable.

    Merkel is racing all over even to Africa etc to stem the tide of refugees because she may be alot of things but stupid sure isn't one. Those far right poll numbers woke her up along with England's Brexit. The removal of these checkpoints is an attempt to show unity. I get it.

    January link

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/01/40-percent-germans-merkel-quit-refugees-160129090835192.html

    March link

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/03/core-germany-refugee-policy-170302073029337.html

    There's tons of links like that where Merkel and her cabinet are moving quickly to do things to try and deal with the situation

    The OP is fear mongering. Much ado about nothin
     
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