Border Patrol agents overwhelmingly support Trump's wall in new survey

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    Or even a BETTER Question:

    Where exactly is this NEW Survey?

    The one referenced in the OP is about a YEAR OLD.

    Where is the NEW Survey?

    (And also, why did someone post an article dated April 2, 2018 in "Current Events"?)
     
  2. superbadbrutha

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    How much already has fencing, roughly 700 miles. He is proposing 1000 miles. 1000+700=1700, so close to 2000miles.
     
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    Must be due to the NBPC calling for investigation into a Report Put out by your Congressional Democrats. Wherein the NBPC thinks your Congressional Democrats made up **** and lied. You know the usual from your kind.


    About NBPC | National Border Patrol Council
    https://bpunion.org/about-npbc
    The National Border Patrol Council (NBPC) is the exclusive representative of approximately 18,000 Border Patrol Agents and support personnel assigned to the U.S. Border Patrol. The U.S. Border Patrol falls under the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

    Ask the OP why they put it up in current events. Then start policing your own kinds threads. You know that which you fail to do.

    Oh and no there is no better question than going after the Lame Stream Media and displaying them as like Lil Kim's propaganda machine.
     
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    Show the poll that says they don't just support a wall in "strategic locations" but a $25 billion wall. I would say that I also support the notion presented in the poll, but that doesn't mean I support the current $25 billion project that the federal government is proposing
     
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    So exactly where does Trump want to build the wall? What locations? Are those the locations where most aliens are crossing? Or just where the Federal Government owns the land? What will the wall look like? Will it be effective in the areas it is built?

    Both parties have funded barriers in the past. If Trump or anyone else came with an actual reasoned argument and said, "we need another 80 miles of barrier here, and 20 here, and 34 miles there", and justified it and showed how the money was going to be spent, he would have a pretty good shot of getting it.

    But he hasn't done that. He hasn't identified the areas that require a barrier, how many people are crossing there, and whether a barrier is the most cost-effective way of securing the border.
     
  6. Josephwalker

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    Your claim that it contained wall funding was just as wrong as your assertion that trump didn't sign it due to talk radio. When are you going to realize you are getting bad information from these leftist news sites?
     
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    That would be an excellent position for democrats to take and an excellent position for trump to respond to if they were not opposing funding the wall based on politics alone as part of the resistance movement. In the real world though Nancy is saying she will give Trump one dollar for wall funding so she is obviously not open to this type of honest negotiation you are proposing. In the meantime border agents say there are places they need the wall and that is the places it will go. Having said that Trump probably should identify specific areas so that he could force democrats to say those spots don't need a wall even though border guards say they do. Good idea!
     
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    Most illegal immigrants in the country entered through a legal visa, and then simply overstayed their visa. All one really needs to get into the country is a tourist visa. The notion of the wall being effective enough to the point of saving enough money to cover it's $25 billion expense plus maintenance seems unlikely. Especially when you consider the ways in which one can get by a wall. Really, all that is needed is a rope, and a ladder
     
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    Yea because you are well informed because you listen to right wing radio and Fox news. Is it the same as Trump now claiming he never said Mexico was going to pay for the wall. Smfh.
     
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    We all know that Walls Work. That's why Open Borders Democrats ae willing to shutdown the government rather than secure the border.

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    We also know that walls/fences are only needed in strategic areas and Pres Trump said he was responsible for the Shutdown and proud of it.
     
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    $5.7B in additional security, 0.1% of the Federal Budget, is all it takes to reopen the Government!

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    Actually I'm well informed because I listen to multiple sources from all spectrums of the political rainbow. In that way it's possible to tell who is giving you half truths and who's giving you the whole story and to separate spin from facts. It's like piecing together a jig saw puzzle of information to complete an accurate picture. It's unfortunate there is no single news source that gives you all the unadulterated facts and you have to go to such efforts but that's just the way it is I guess.
     
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    I'm sensing a shift on this from the left in that they are admitting walls work and are necessary in strategic locations. Chuck and Nancy with their no way Jose attitude may soon be going it alone.
     
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    You mean like this.

    https://i1.wp.com/memecollection.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/6bd91233-that-was-******-in-one-see-ywu-in-cwurt-trumpertantrum.gif?w=900
     
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    When you let the man in your AM radio do you thinking for you, this is what you get.

    No, the deal that Trump told McConnell he would agree to did no contain funding for a wall.

    He knew that. He was told that.

    He agreed to that and told McConnell to get it done.

    Then he turned his AM radio on.

    And then, he went back on his word to McConnell and left him hanging.

    Now, McConnell won't move anything Trump won't publicly agree to, because he's tired of doing the clown prince's bidding only to be left holding the bag when the imbicile betrays him and changes his mind.

    Trump lost this battle on December 11th, live and on national television.

    The right wing blogs and pundits who do your thinking for you have been working overtime ever since.
     
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    Good synopses of left wing reporting on this issue. Polly wanna cracker?
     
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    The very existance of this thread refutes any suggestion that you are "well informed", with all due respect.

    First of all, anyone with even the most basic understanding of the timeline of the Russia probe would have instantly recognized the fact that the Moonie Times headline is flagrantly false.

    Since you can't refute it, your empty attempt to dismiss the facts is all the confirmation I need. You right wingers dismiss the facts every time a trash blog feeds you a line like this one.

    My timeline is accurate, and you know it.

    Other posters on this thread have actually read the link you posted and didn't read and pointed out that your "poll" is nine months old.

    "Well informed" people don't post dishonest memes from trashy right wing sources will long histories of misleading their audiences with cheap tricks like these.


    But Trump supporters fall for this every time. And they come right back to the same sourcefor more, every time.

    No wonder Trump knows he can lie to you. He knows from years of watching right wing media and the way the audience reacts to it that he can lie to you with absolute impunity and that you'll be back tomorrow for more, every time!

    So much for well informed.
     
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    If you can find a source stating the reverse or anywhere close to it that border agents overwhelmingly reject a border wall feel free to present it to stand in juxtaposition. Until then all you have is the usual boring leftist tactics of denigrating the source and ad hom attacks of the individual who you are responding to.
     
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    Sorry, but your right wing trash blog mislead you into believing that this support poll is current, and you fell for it. Not for the first time either!

    Since the context in wh, ich the question was first asked has changed completely, and since you parroted the claim without actually looking at it first, it's on you to back up your claim.

    Not that it matters. There will be no wall. Trump blew it up on December 11th.

    The clown has always craved being the center of attention. And, for most of his career, it didn't matter whether the news was bad or good. He always had his daddy's money to pay for the bad parts, and the good parts were always celebrity gossip.

    Now he's got his wish, and it has him.
     
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    As I suspected you have no contradictory evidence to present and are reduced to a response containing nothing but hyperbole and ad hom attacks
     
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    No, actually, I didn't particularly care. Nor does anyone else.

    I was just pointing out that you parroted a deliberately misleading claim from a right wing trash blog.........again.
     
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    Prove it's misleading.
     
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    You deliberately posted from an article that was nine months old, and which does not reflect the current manufactured crisis at all.
     

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