Brain Surgeon Recalls His Near-Death Experience

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Do you think that Dr. Alexander is being honest about what he experienced during his NDE?

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  3. Perhaps, but that does not mean that he understands the most likely implications of his NDE.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In my opinion this is another level of near death experience account due to the qualifications that Dr. Eben Alexander has which allows him to explain his out of the body experience using words that you and I would not tend to know.

    I am impressed how the message from his ten year old son began the process of his consciousness returning to his body.


    Brain Surgeon Recalls His Near-Death Experience, Says He’s Been to a Heavenly Kingdom
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    You may even wish to watch his video:



    In the case of then three year and ten month old Colton Burpo it was the rather angry prayers of his dad that began the process of his returning to his body. Both Colton as well as Dr. Alexander report being able to hear what their loved ones are saying while they were in a coma.
     
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    Brain Surgeon Recalls His Near-Death Experience

    Two Words...Ben Carson.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I thought that you were kidding at first but you aren't.........
    but Dr. Carson's experience was more of a near death experience for the other guy..... than for himself?!


    Ben Carson Reveals the Death-Defying Moment He Truly Embraced God

     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Nikola_Tesla

    ― Nikola Tesla

    Tesla might have said it to Ralph Bergstresser in 1942:
    He was correct!

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/
     
  5. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At the 2:10:00 minute mark in this audio of her book........
    Anna Rountree gives a warning about a false Life Review......

    She thinks that Satan overplayed his hand.... by having her mom use her name Anna.....
    sincer her mom always called her Ann....... but I think that Satan was giving her a hint that this was
    not a real Life Review.......

    (Anna hears her dog barking and the sound of the car speeding that killed her dog and her mom
    asking her to assist the dog.... but she knows that the memory was false..... part of a manufactured Life Review....)....

     
  6. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Almost as compelling as Ben Carsons "Joseph built the Pyramids" commentary Dennis.....as in NOT.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True....... anybody who is anybody knows that it was really Joseph / Yosef's cousin Job - Iob the son of Issachar!!!!

    That is why Job - Iob got asked these questions:

    https://www.lds.org/scriptures/ot/job/38?lang=eng
    Job - Iob was an excellent engineer..... that is true... but not in the same league with YHWH - the G-d of Abraham!

    Genesis 46:
    13 ¶ And the sons of Issachar; Tola, and Phuvah, and Job, and Shimron."


    http://www.coghomeschool.org/site/cog_archives/booklets/who_built_the_great_pyramid.htm
     
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  8. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I cannot comment on that in a way conducive to civil discourse so instead.....Have A Nice Day:)
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    You have to stop pretending NDE's have any relevence to what happens after death. You have no evidence whatsover to support that conclusion. Why are you deluding yourself? Are you so afraid of dying you have to make up an afterlife?
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually..... one of the after effects of the near death experience is a lack of fear of death...... and reading these accounts has a similar effect on us.


    https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/...201803/aftereffects-the-near-death-experience

    Marilyn A. Mendoza Ph.D.
    Understanding Grief

    Aftereffects of the Near Death Experience
    Adapting to an “Exceptional Experience.”
    Posted Mar 12, 2018


    These near death experience accounts could be useful in assisting a friend or family member to avoid ending their lives if they have feelings in that direction.


    http://ebenalexander.com/suicide-epidemic-relates-to-spiritual-vacuum/

    SUICIDE EPIDEMIC RELATES TO SPIRITUAL VACUUM
     
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    Well of course bur religion is supposed to do the same thing. And rational thinking would say that ending existence should eliminate fear just as well. Be rational, if you die and it all ends what could there possibly be to fear. The only fear about death is the sick crap religion spews about hell and suffering in the afterlife. The real fear and evil is that spread by religion and in particular Christianity.
     
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    I find that NDE accounts are generally more encouraging and positive than the Jewish and Christian scriptures.

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/gay/christian-andreason.html#a04h
    I do hope that near death experience accounts are the fulfillment of this promise by Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus:

    John 16:25 "These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father."


    https://www.near-death.com/religion...death-experience-and-universal-salvation.html

    Chapter 10
    The Near-Death Experience and Universal Salvation
    by Dr. Ken R. Vincent

     
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    ....a fine, brilliant man.
     
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    Like Minds...….unfortunately.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Still no evidece that NDE's have any relevence to life after death.
     
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    If you do not belive there is any existance after death or to put it simply death is the end then there is no reason to fear death. Fearing death is the result of the Christian crap about hell and punishment in the afterlife.
     
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    Cerebral hypoxia seems the most likely explanation.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The evidence that exists that strongly indicates that our soul existed even before we were born may be the angle that eventually brings you and many others around to belief in an afterlife.

    https://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/research/ian-stevenson.html
     
  19. DennisTate

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    I absolutely agree.......
    and only an exceptionally sincere and altruistic person would be so candid about their emotional problems in their youth. He is obviously doing this to prove to others that serious anger can be overcame..... and prayer can play a huge role in that success.


    Ben Carson Reveals the Death-Defying Moment He Truly Embraced God

     
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    Dennis...there is no evidence, there is opinion, speculation, books and youtube. There is absolutely nothing to indicate a "Soul" so any angle is not relevant to logical reality.
     
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    Sorry but NDE's do not provide any actual evidence that either a soul exists or that a soul has always existed. You confuse stories with proof. And stories about NDEs have as much evidence to support them as evidence of alien abductions.

    And his claim that birthmarks prove reincarnation has to be a joke.
     
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    In general I agree with you on this subject, but Ian Stevenson's research is not a joke. It is scientific research conducted by a MD, and Psychiatrist who was (now deceased) a professor at the University of Va. Firstly Stevenson never claimed to prove reincarnation and secondly without reading any of his books or understanding his methodology criticism is unfounded. His research is scientific and all books are a difficult (dry and scientific) read. When he has photographs of birthmarks that correspond to being shot or hung, and the person with the birthmark is aware of intimate details of someone they never met and know nothing about and could know nothing about, what is the explanation?

    For a light read on the subject the following was written by a reporter who set out to debunk Stevenson but came to a different conclusion.

    https://www.amazon.com/Old-Souls-Co...rds=old+souls&qid=1557262431&s=gateway&sr=8-2
     
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    There's a massive & continually growing amount of evidence supporting continuing consciousness after physical death. What are you looking for?
     
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    Any actual fact based or reproducible evidence. Anthing published in a peer reviewed scientific article will also work.

    What won't work is stories or anecdotal evidence.
     
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    His whole resaerch is a joke. Science used to convince itself that phrenology worked.
     

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