Braking News : Putin sent tanks deep into Ukrainian territory

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  1. Hoosier8

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/14/w...ms-full-control-of-port-city-of-mariupol.html
     
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    I decided to take a close look at the photo.
    Lots of tank tracks for just three, sorry, four tanks.
    A man directing the vehicles - odd.
    Tank tracks in front of the lead tank - what made those?
    Tank tracks on the grass, as noted by the turn marks that wouldn't have been made by a wheeled vehicle.

    Now, where was it taken? Sevastopol
    http://www.politicalforum.com/attac...n-territory-cnn-russians_tanks_in_ukraine.png

    That means the tanks would have travelled a very long way before the photos were shot. Perhaps a Russian ship dropped them off.
    Still, that wouldn't explain all the extra tank tracks.

    This will - it's a building site next to some sort of secure area.

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    Russian tanks in Ukraine?

    The only tanks Ukraine possesses are Russian tanks, and more and more Ukrainian soldiers are changing sides and fighting against the Junta in Kiev.
     
  4. Face. Your

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    Spare us the blame the victim fascist propaganda straight out of the Goebbels playbook, Russia has absolutely NO right to invade sovereign Ukrainian territory, regardless of whether this story is true or not Russia is currently occupying the sovereign Ukrainian territory of the Crimea and until said illegal occupation is ended Russian troops and Russian high ranking officials including Putin will remain legitimate military targets anywhere in the world.
     
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    And according to international law it is sovereign Ukrainian territory despite fascist imperialistic expansionists and their supporters.
    It was not a U.S. coup that is fascist nonsense straight from the Kremlin's ministry of propaganda.
     
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    Here apparently are the three tanks and two KAMAZ trucks in Makiivka (town in Donestk Oblast)


    [video=youtube;q977zU2J1ww]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q977zU2J1ww&feature=youtu.be[/video]
     
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    It's now been confirmed, these were not captured Ukrainian tanks, these tanks and munitions crossed the border from Russia:

    DONETSK, Ukraine — The State Department said Friday that Russia had sent tanks and other heavy weapons to separatists in Ukraine, supporting accusations Thursday by the Ukrainian government.

    A convoy of three T-64 tanks, several BM-21 multiple rocket launchers and other military vehicles crossed the border near the Ukrainian town of Snizhne, State Department officials said. The Ukrainian Army reported Friday that it had destroyed two of the tanks and several other vehicles in the convoy.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/14/w...ll-control-of-port-city-of-mariupol.html?_r=0

    This is another escalation on behalf of the Russian Federation, the U.S. and E.U. should now seriously consider providing the Ukrainians with technologically advanced anti-tank weaponry.
     
  8. litwin

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    all very clear :
     
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    Perhaps you'd like to see the photos of that CIA chap who was nabbed aiding the coup.
    Maybe you'd like to listen to US politicians talking about who they were putting in the new government.

    Let me know, I'll be happy to post them again.
     
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    America invaded Iraq with no referendum but that was legal.
    These people voted to join Russia, but that's illegal.

    The law seems to be an ass.
     
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    Hmm, you never considered the invasion of Iraq legal and whined non-stop about it on this forum (not just you of course), now all of a sudden you consider the invasion and annexation of Crimea legal and defend Russian fascism and expansionism....Your views are ....hmmm...inconsistent, you know lol
     
  12. litwin

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    +1, where is logic?

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    whats about the new president? what do you think about him, compere him with your hero Putler
     
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    There are some Turks in Germany who are neither Muslims nor Christians.

    :D
     
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    Did USA have the right to invade Iraqi territory?

    BTW, the Americans were hated in Iraq, but the Russians were and are loved on the Crimean Peninsula.

    Guess why? Because the native population of Crimea is Russian, and this population asked Russia to invade.

    What to USA invading Iraq - this illegal invasion was based on lies, and after the Americans removed their boots from Iraq, their marionettes in Iraq lose the control of the country.

    :D
     
  15. litwin

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    by all people even by Ukrainians and Tatars ? or just Goblin´s supporters
     
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    Art_Allm Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    That is a personal attack.

    And your "news" are already debunked.

     
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    In a democracy the will of the majority matters.
    Most inhabitants of the Crimean Peninsula voted for the reunification with Russia.
    That is why there is peace and prosperity in this region of Russia today.
    Everybody is happy with the new situation, there are no rebels!

    What to Iraq - Americans were not welcomed there, that is why there is still chaos, and the marionettes, installed by Washington, cannot control this country.

    The same with the South-East of ex-Ukraine.
    The pro-Bandera Junta is not welcomed there, that is why they have to treat their own former citizens like an enemy, destroying the infrastructure, killing women and children.
     
  18. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so why the (*)(*)(*)(*) didn't the Imperialists in Donbass let the people vote in the Ukraine Presidential election????
     
  19. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    dont you support in every post the Russian dwarf Bonaparte? i use only mainstream respected medias (SVT, BBC; aljazeera, UP, etc.) you guys here use UFO youtube channels, and Kiselev´s media urinals

    BBC

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/easternapproaches/2013/12/ukraine
    medal from Putler´s hands
    http://mir24.net/news-russia/315-ru...seleva-ordenom-qza-zaslugi-pered-otechestvomq
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    and more Kremlin
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    in the Holland, unhappy to many pindoses? ....
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    The people voted before and they already declared their independence from the Junta in Kiev, though the Junta tried to prevent this referendum with all means.

    BTW, anybody could vote for the Junta, too, and some people even voted, but only a tiny minority.
    The population just boycotted the vote.

    Even in some regions that were still under the control of the Junta (like Odessa-Region), voters boycotted the vote.

    Do you believe that Putin prevented the voters in Odessa to take part in the presidential election?

    :D

    As we see, in Lugans and Donetsk the turnout was not zero, some people wanted to vote and they voted.

    In Kiev and Odessa the participation was less that 15 percent!
    That are cities that were still under the control of the Junta!

    Did the voters in Kiev and Odessa not vote, because Putin told them not to vote?
     
  21. litwin

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    +1, thats why

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    I support the truth.

    You claimed that Putin wants to rename Volgograd into Stalingrad,MOD EDIT>>>OFF TOPIC<<<

    You pasted a lot of irrelevant texts and images that did not prove anything.

    ,MOD EDIT>>>OFF TOPIC<<<
     
  23. Art_Allm

    Art_Allm Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Do you have any explanation why the population of Kiev and Odessa boycotted this election, thought these cities still were under the full control of the Junta?

    :D
     
  24. Ronstar

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    you have no evidence that the election was boycotted in these areas.

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    ironic, coming from the guy who says Ukraine does not exist and the USA should cease to exist.
     
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    If more than 75% of the voters do not go to the elections, then this is a boycott.

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    And if less that 50% of people went to election, then the president does not represent these regions.

    As simple as that.
     

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