BREAKING: Mueller’s Prosecutor Abruptly Resigns From Roger Stone Case After DOJ Backs Down From Exce

You are the one that should be ashamed - for supporting a kangaroo process and a kangaroo sentence.

 

"Norm" doesn't not equal "within sentencing guidelines"

THAT's an absurd misunderstanding of the terms here...

There is no "norm" for a Roger Stone in American Jurisprudence history.

That cheese stands alone.

 

Well then guidelines shouldn't apply at all....the point of the guidelines is to compare him to others. There appears to be a disagreement on the points added up to get to guidelines, the ones in the case were using, and the ones that DOJ and the higher ups applied.

 

LOL. I'll keep doing half of that

 

Of course there are norms - with respect to sentencing. Do you think Stone is the first guy to lie to the authorities and engage in witness tampering.

 

Common sense says NeverTrumpers and Obama's holdovers still abound in every branch of the Government, the White House and DoJ including. What does it tell you?

 

If Roger Stone was sentenced for 99 years without parole and President Trump later pardoned him, would you be still saying, "Trump has now intervened to minimise the damage"? I mean, why would Trump intervene if he could pardon, and Democrats be pissed all the same?

 

Were you against Eric Holder release New Black Panthers members that was convicted of voter intimidation at a Philadelphia place? Notice the word convicted. They were sentenced to actual jail time, but Holder had them released. How is that not an AG tampering with the judicial system?

The Mueller prosecutors justified the higher sentence claiming that Roger stone threatened physical harm of a witness. Roger Stone had threatened to take the man's theropy dog. They claimed that the threat was to kill the dog. Even the witness said he did not take the statement as a threat of bodily harm. Without the claim of a threat, the sentencing guidelines limits the conviction to seven years. The prosecutors had asked the court for 9 years.

 

So four Stone prosecutors resign. The leftwing media report goes so far as to suggest it is because they can't bear the meddling and corrupting influence of Trump and Barr. And yet none of the prosecutors have said a thing as to why. I suspect that the op is correct, that they left not as a statement against meddling but so as to distance themselves from their own misdeeds. Two questions: Why haven't the lawyers stated why they resigned. And why has the media presented it as a foregone conclusion that they resigned because the Trump admin is corrupt.

 

Actually, it isn't a breakdown of the separation of powers. The judiciary will remain independent.

However, there is a long history of the DOJ being allowed to act independent of political influence. The DOJ IS part of the executive branch, so strictly speaking the president can interfere as much as he wants with how the DOJ performs its role. However - in modern times (at least since Nixon) that has not been the case. The DOJ has been kept independent of the White House and politics. Trump is changing that. He is weaponising the DOJ.

 

It's within sentencing guidelines - and prosecutors tend to ask for more rather than less.
7-9 years seems high to me, but the political interference in the DOJ is outrageous. At least it is to any patriot.

 

It is within the sentencing guidelines only if the false claim of threatening bodily harm of a witness was true. Without that false claim, 7 years is a more accurate sentence. The prosecutors were clearly retaliating in requesting the court for a 9 year sentence.

 

Remember the FBI stormed Stone's house like he was Bin Laden? Lefties cheered nationwide.

 

Yes, you are wrong often.

 

I sure do. The FBI was surely afraid of this 67-year-old man...

 

Seems to me that softening a sentence would be de-weaponizing it. And wasn't it Obama who went after Police Departments and LEO's, dividing our people racially, creating havoc, putting targets on LEO's backs and accomplishing nothing but the creation of violent groups like BLM and ANTIFA.

 

I told all those cheerleaders at the time, what comes around goes around.

 

Don't forget his deaf wife and miniature dog, both of whom can turn fierce when startled.

 

No - if the pressure to change a sentencing guideline comes from political sources, that is politicizing / weaponizing the DOJ. It is an attack on the DOJ's independence.

I don't recall Obama ordering the DOJ to do anything in relation to Police Departments or LEOs. Can you provide some specifics?

 

Anyone remember the 30-day sentence for SSCI Security Director James Wolfe.

 

Not as wrong as you.

 

Hmmmmm:

It's not about Stone, really. It's about Mueller team members Zelinsky/Jed using the Stone case as a weapon against Barr/Shea. Recommend an unjust punishment to force their hand. Wouldn't be surprised if they use this as their "protest" exit strategy.

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1227292296774852613

RogerStone Senior DOJ official tells @CBSNews Department was shocked to see sentencing recommendation Stone case. This is not what was briefed to Dept. The Dept. believes recommendation is extreme, excessive, grossly disproportionate to offenses...#DEVELOPING

https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1227286163939000320

Bill Barr is getting the DOJ back on the right foot. Losing more prosecutors like the 4 that just left is good for America.

 

I’m an Engineer. We’re never wrong.

 

I have no idea what the "norm" is? Only that the prosecutors claimed it was within federal guidelines.

 

Lol....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering_disasters

 

What should be offensive to any patriot - is our kangaroo clown show of a legal system. This is not "equal justice under the law".
Claiming "Sentencing guidelines" is a cop out - as these guidelines are beyond variable - and the guidelines in of themselves are extremely flawed - as any "Patriot" should recognize.

You yourself seem to recognize this - in claiming "7-9 years seems a bit high" - Ya think ? especially given that typically such crimes are awarded 24-36 months according to the defense.

The second problem - one that any Patriot should recognize - is that this was a case of illegitimate use of authority.

This was not a normal investigation - this investigation granted special powers - powers which violate the normal rules of Justice and essential liberty. The Special Prosecutor was given power to severely fk with someone's life.

The reason this power is given is due to some threat of harm to the nation that is severe - akin to Martial Law due to some army massing on our boarders or some terrorist having a nuclear bomb .. a serious and quantifiable threat.

As such - the power is supposed to be limited - ONLY - to the the specific threat. Evidence of a crime uncovered that are not related to this threat are supposed to be ignored.

For example - How was the # of inches of cigar that "Slick Willy" inserted into Monica's oval orifice - relevant to the White Water investigation ?

In the case of Trump - investigated for being a "Russian Asset" - the specific allegations were 1) Trump was somehow involved in the DNC hack and/or 2) that Trump was somehow involved with the Russian FB ad group.

What does tax fraud a decade ago have to do with the above ?

Dershowitz has maintained a consistent stance with respect to both Whitewater and Russiagate. That some of the actions of the Special Prosecutor were illegitimate use of authority.

This is what a Patriot takes into consideration.