Breaking: President Trump Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize by Norwegian Lawmakers

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  1. Jim Wright

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    That's funny but I don't think it takes a degree to recognize a madman in your midst! By the way....I don't believe I would take Dr Ben Carson's advice for changing a tire on a bicycle. He didn't come across as the brightest bulb in the lamp. Surgery....undoubtedly very competent....anything else....um, I think I'll let Biff down at John's Chevron give it a try.
     
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    Trump lacks one thing that sociopaths have, and that is likability. Trump is irritating, and as for Obama? Well he never stopped lying - but he was likable.
     
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    From what I gather, Trump is being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, for accepting with Kim a disarmament plan written up by Russia and China and accepted later by Germany. According to the plan, Russia will be giving Kim the security guarantees he needs. This is logical considering N. Korea's proximity to Russia's lifeline, the port of Vladisvostok. The port falls less than 100 miles from the N. Korean border, and is probably the only reason Washington even concerned itself with N. Korea.

    I find it interesting the way Kim did an about face and accepted the disarmament plan after Moscow revealed its hypersonic weapons. So, how much had to do with the sanctions imposed by Trump, and how much had to do with the greater security guarantees Kim had from Russia, now that Moscow showed itself to be more advanced militarily than was previously thought?

    Anyway these are my thoughts on it.
     
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    That's a good point, Jeannette. Obama was a charming man. trump just doesn't seem to possess the feelings of empathy or self-deprecation.
     
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    I am never sure that ANYTHING we are privy to has any semblance to the truth. Working at times for just medium to small sized businesses I am aware that very seldom are the strategies and future plans privy to the average wage earner, so think how much that is magnified on a world level!
     
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    The feelings of empathy or self deprecation that sociopaths pretend to possess, is only for their self serving interests. This is why sociopaths are con artists. Obama helped no one, not the blacks in Chicago, nor in Libya - who ended up being killed and sold in slaves markets after Ghadaffi's death. He also wanted to bomb the Christians who ran into Damascus for help, so he could help the terrorists overthrow Assad. He had to be convinced not to. So much for the peace prize given him.

    This doesn't mean Trump doesn't have his faults. He has quite a few, but at least he is not a psychopath or sociopath, and does have some sense of right and wrong.
     
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    Curious observation, didn't know sociopaths were "likable", do you think Obama might be a sociopath and Trump couldn't possibly be one? Maybe whether Trump could be likeable is more subjective, in your view he isn't, but others may think he is (and could thereby qualify as a genuine sociopath)?
     
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    Obama got it years before the Iran deal.....but then again he was "entitled" to it. He's half-black.
     
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    As usual with GOP'ers there is an agenda of race. Just flat don't like black people do you? You can put on a pretense when necessary, but doggone it....they really shouldn't let the sun set on them in your town.
     
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    He's half white....is that the race you hate? Many many admitted they voted for him because he was the first black to run. I would have voted for Herman Cain but not Obama due to his Communist sypathies. Had nothing to do with race at all. It is a fact he accomplished nothing when he got the peace prize other than to be the 1st half black President. Democrats are the ones to champion "identity politics" which is racist in itself.
     
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    Frankly, yabereugee, I can see the reasoning behind giving a few credit points for voting for a man who would be the first black POTUS. Let me clarify, however. He would have to be intelligent, reasonable, affable, reasonably steadfast in his long-term outlook for how he would like the country to make positive changes, possess what would by all appearances be a stable home life (even if he were single), and have a track record of basic transparency and propriety. If those contingencies existed to a large degree (nothing is perfect and everything is due to misconstruction)
    We have attempted through legislation to assist the black race to achieve the white man's potential for many decades through political mandate. It has failed in almost every instance. Those few instances that actual elevated the black populace to a near level par are music and sports. Tangentially, perhaps, but weakly connected to politics. Ergo (finally!) my point being that elevating a man of a generally accepted black race to the highest position in the world does MORE to bolster the equality of the race than any political mandate or attempt at grassroots "Black Lives Matter" affiliations than ANY other condition could manage. Just my opinion, of course....I could be wrong!!!!!!
     
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    How much better if that first black Potus had really been good for America??? There were more riots and political divisiveness than we've had in a long time. Most of us knew he was a leftist from the start but the fact he was black silenced a lot of those opinions. I do believe a great black leader might have been very good for the nation as a whole, but with Barrack Hussein Obama, they blew their wad. That is my opinion.
     
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    We have different perspectives. I feel he was VERY good for the country, aside from his ethnicity. More so than anyone sine B Clinton. If you would care to discuss his benefits vs his detriments I am game to begin.
     
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    You got that correct.
    When will the rest of the world catch up
    and view Obama's accomplishments in a color blind manner?


    Especially ObamaCare that is founded on the idea that working people
    should pay for welfare people's health cost via "private (for profit) exchanges.


    We need Democrats from the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party,
    without regard for color, gender, sexual preference or being a straight - white - male. :rant:


    Moi :oldman:




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    He began foreign diplomacy with an "apology tour" in which he voiced he disagreed with American exceptionalism.....we are just another nation. His Iran deal showed a Lack of resolved and was the biggest giveaway in history. He talked of the great attributes of Islam while apologizing for Christian behavior in spite of atrocities such as 9/11. In spite of his early rhetoric to enforce our border sovereignty....he did absolutely nothing. His claims that Trayvon Martin could have been his own son were un warranted showing prejudice before the facts were in as in many cases. His comments to Putins' aide to the effect tell Putin that after I am elected I'll have more sway" showed more Russian collusion than anything proven about Trump. He drew a red line in Syria that was only cheap bluster that weakened American resolve. Those are just some thoughts about this leftist administration that bolstered the current need to make America Great Again. I would enjoy hearing from your perspective the great things accomplished by this President.
    I would also point out, it is becoming more apparent that he used his power and influence to "weaponize" agencies of government, starting with the IRS, the FBI, the Dept. of Justice and others against his political adversaries.
     
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    I just got back from AZ, yabberrefuge. I appreciate the sincerity of your points but would politely disagree with a few. Back to you in a day or so when I get settled in.Thanks!
     
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    He's done more than Obama ever did.
     

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