BREAKING: Prominent Anti-Hillary Clinton Researcher, FOUND DEAD at 54!

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As the saying goes, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck.

    The problem is not the deaths of those connected with Clinton, after all so many people die each day, it's the suspicious nature and the timeliness of the deaths.
     
  2. Paperview

    Paperview Well-Known Member

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    If you believe stupid "body count" lists put out by even stupider conspiracy theorists.
     
  3. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Today, ten Hillary supporters will die (on average). Is that proof of a Trump conspiracy to kill all Hillary supporters? Using your logic, it does.
     
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    For example, the second claim in the OP about Former U.N. Diplomat John Ashe being set to testify against Clinton.

    [​IMG]

    "That claim stemmed from a single source: a blogger working under the nom de plume "Sorcha Faal" who publishes fabricated "news" accounts on the political conspiracy site whatdoesitmean.com. RationalWiki says of that blog and author:

    Sorcha Faal is the alleged author of an ongoing series of "reports" published at WhatDoesItMean.com, whose work is of such quality that even other conspiracy nutters don't think much of it.


    Each report resembles a news story in its style but usually includes a sensational headline barely related to reality and quotes authoritative high-level Russian sources (such as the Russian Federal Security Service) to support its most outrageous claims. Except for the stuff attributed to unverifiable sources, the reports don't contain much original material. They are usually based on various news items from the mainstream media and/or whatever the clogosphere is currently hyperventilating about, with each item shoehorned into the conspiracy narrative the report is trying to establish.


    Prior fabrications from the same site and blogger held that President Obama ordered the military to nuke the city of Charleston, that Rear Admiral Rick Williams was fired because he revealed Obama's purchase of a mansion in Dubai (Williams was actually terminated for misconduct), and that Vladimir Putin and Barack Obama were locked in a potentially conflict-starting battle over the practices of the Monsanto agribusiness corporation.

    The claim about Clinton was also a variation on the long-circulating (and equally false) "body bags" rumor holding that the Clintons have frequently "done away" with once-loyal associates who became political liabilities.


    We contacted the U.S. District Attorney for the Southern District of New York to verify the claims about Ashe and Clinton. According to the individual with whom we spoke, CNN's report that Ashe's corruption trial was set to begin just five days after his death was not accurate: Ashe was only scheduled to attend some standard pre-trial meetings in the following days.


    Moreover, the U.S. District Attorney's spokesperson told us that no portion of Ashe's court case pertained to Hillary Clinton. Not only was he not set to testify against Clinton five days before he died, neither was he slated to do so at any point during the trial. A copy of the 5 October 2015 complaint against Ashe and several co-defendants (which involved Ashe's taking bribes from developer David Ng to support one of Ng's real estate projects at the U.N.) can be located here [PDF]."

    http://www.snopes.com/un-official-j...re-he-was-to-testify-against-hillary-clinton/
     
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    Paperview Well-Known Member

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    Snopes explains how the game is played:

    "Body count" lists are not a new phenomenon. Lists documenting all the allegedly "suspicious" deaths of persons connected with the assassination of John F. Kennedy have been circulating for decades, and the same techniques used to create and spread the JFK lists have been employed in the Clinton version:



    • List every dead person with even the most tenuous of connections to your subject. It doesn't matter how these people died, or how tangential they were to your subject's life. The longer the list, the more impressive it looks and the less likely anyone is to challenge it. By the time readers get to the bottom of the list, they'll be too weary to wonder what could possibly be relevant about the death of people such as Bill Clinton's mother's chiropractor.
    • Play word games. Make sure every death is presented as "mysterious." All accidental deaths are to be labelled "suspicious," even though by definition accidents occur when something unexpected goes wrong. Every self-inflicted death discussed must include the phrase "ruled a suicide" to imply just the opposite. When an autopsy contradicts a "mysterious death" theory, dispute it; when none was performed because none was needed, claim that "no autopsy was allowed." Make liberal use of words such as 'allegedly' and 'supposedly' to dismiss facts you can't support or contradict with hard evidence.
    • Make sure every inconsistency or unexplained detail you can dredge up is offered as evidence of a conspiracy, no matter how insignificant or pointless it may be. If an obvious suicide is discovered wearing only one shoe, ignore the physical evidence of self-inflicted death and dwell on the missing shoe. You don't have to establish an alternate theory of the death; just keep harping that the missing shoe "can't be explained."
    • If the data doesn't fit your conclusion, ignore it. You don't have to explain why the people who claimed to have the most damaging goods on Clinton (e.g., Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Linda Tripp, Monica Lewinsky, Kenneth Starr), are still walking around unscathed while dozens of bit players have been bumped off. It's inconvenient for you, so don't mention it.
    • Most important, don't let facts and details stand in your way! If you can pass off a death by pneumonia as a "suicide," do it! If a cause of death contradicts your conspiracy theory, claim it was "never determined." If your chronology of events is impossible, who cares? It's not like anybody is going to check up on this stuff ...


    Multiple versions of this "body count" list have been circulating online for two decades now. New victim names are routinely added and old ones taken off, forming an endless variety of permutations. At this point, there is no one "official" list."

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    http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp
     
  6. AlpinLuke

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    It's clear that the ILLUMINATI are using their rituals to cause the death of who dares to oppose the destiny they have written for the world. Hillary Clinton is just a useless tool in the hands of the ILLUMINATI [I ignore if she knows this]. Hillary will become President just to be killed like JFK to generate the context to carry the United States in a total atomic war. The mankind will be drastically reduced and the mass sacrifice will feed the "egregora" that ILLUMINATI worship ...

    Now, if I don't die within next 10 minutes ... this is just fantasy.

    Wait! Someone is knocking at my door!!!!

    - - - Updated - - -

    She was a neighbor of mine ... she was looking for sugar ... now, I will be a bit busy for a while, you know ...
     
  7. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree! Absolutely she should! "We came - we saw - he died!!!"
     
  8. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Think how many she killed in the MENA regions with impunity and ne'er an afterthought.

    [​IMG]

    The newspaper article with the mysterious deaths goes back to 1994, so if the killings is not coming directly from Hillary Clinton, then some group is empowering them for their own self interests. Who are they and why?:oldman:
     
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    Taking a pause from my neighbor looking for sugar, I've got something to say to Mrs Clinton ...

    Hillary, you know, we're politicians ... leave them talk ... political fight is something else [and better!].

    I go back to my neighbor looking for sugar [I didn't think it took so long to find some sugar!].
     
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    Paperview Well-Known Member

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    You know...the word gullible isn't actually in the dictionary.
     
  11. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I repeat: If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it is a duck.

    If all the suspicious circumstances surrounding the Clinton's from the 1990's is not incriminating in itself, then there are a lot of people in jails who should have never been arrested.
     
  12. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    This is how conspiracy theorists get away with shoveling their bovine excrement. Just slap a "peculiar" or "suspicious" label on something, without providing any verifiable details that would make such an event peculiar, wedge in some allegations of your own and, voila! There's your conspiracy. Most of the people on the so-called murder list don't even have any documented disagreement with the Clintons, hence why the wacko far right just invents some "rumors" of their own and calls it a day.
     
  13. Bobbybobby99

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    Ooh, conspiracy theories. How intelligent.

    54 year old men die every day. They're 54. Men don't live as long as women, and while they average twenty years more than that, it's hardly uncommon to die early. My father died at 50, and I find it doubtful he was murdered.
     
  14. Paperview

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    OK. You've convinced me. You're a duck.


    *quack*
     
  15. Merwen

    Merwen Well-Known Member

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    From the link:

    "John Ashe

    Former United Nations General Assembly President

    Died: June 22, 2016
    Initially reported as having died from a heart attack, John's throat had obviously been crushed. At that point the official story changed to him accidentally dropping a barbell on his own throat (the plotline from the episode "An Exercise in Fatality" from the TV series "Columbo.") crushing his larynx.

    Ashe was about to begin trial for a bribery charge involving Chinese businessman Ng Lap Seng, who had been implicated but not charged in the 1996 "China-gate" scandal for funneling illegal donations to Bill Clinton's re-election fund through Arkansas restaurant owner Charlie Trie. Ashe was supposed to testify about Hillary's links to Ng Lap Seng later the same day he died." [my boldface]

    OK; here is why the "China Gate" question was never resolved. Pfffffst.
     
  16. Merwen

    Merwen Well-Known Member

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    This is a great one, too...

    "Ron Brown

    Former Chairman, DNC; Commerce Secretary

    Died: May 3, 1996
    Ron Brown died along with 39 other people when the T-43 (a converted 737 used by the Air Force) carrying the group on a trip to Bosnia crashed while approaching the Dubrovnik airport. On the verge of being indicted and having stated publicly his willingness to make a deal with prosecutors, Ron Brown's death brought to an end his ability to testify. The very next day, Ron Brown's personal lawyer was murdered in a drive-by shooting. A few days later, the Air Traffic Controller who had been in charge during the aircraft crash was found dead and declared a suicide.
    On leaving Ron Brown's funeral, President Bill Clinton was seen laughing and joking ... until he saw the camera, then he went into his sad act!"

    Three deaths in this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow; the Clintons are thorough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    I tend to agree. You might want to copy that site's info for later reference, since they claim to be under attack by Hillary's people. I fear for the people running that site.
     
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    I guess i'd want to focus on nonsense like this if I was a trump supporter. It sure beats the reality of dealing with having trump as your candidate. Paranoia and fear is all trumpbots have left.
     
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    Whew.....for a minute there I thought ya was gonna say.....Hillary, Pour Some Sugar on Me. [​IMG]

    Def leopard said, that is definitely not what they were talking about. [​IMG]
     
  20. Merwen

    Merwen Well-Known Member

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    Most Dem-leaners never were very good at logical analysis.
     
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    And some are outright fabrications. For example, guy by the name Gary Johnson is part of that 1994 article (an article that came out just after Jerry Falwell made his long-since debunked and ridiculous movie The Clinton Chronicles.)

    Gary Johnson claims that he lived in the same apartment complex Gennifer Flowers did & was beaten up severely "and left for dead" in 1992 - because he had videotapes of Clinton visiting Flowers there.

    Only problem: Gennifer Flowers moved from that apartment building in 1990 according to this news article: news article.

    Another problem: In Flowers sworn testimony, page 31, she said she only lived at that Quapaw address for "a year and a half, two years or so." after saying she moved there in 1985. She'd have been a long time gone before your the "Clinton goon squad" showed up to supposedly pummel poor Mr. Johnson.

    Top problem: No one seems to be able to locate Gary Johnson, the self-described No.#1 Clinton hater in the country, Robert Morrow (look him up, holy crap what a perverted mess of a man,recently elected RNC Travis Country, TX chairman).

    There's so many more on those list that when investigated turn out to be wholly manufactured bull****.

    The people who fall for this stuff are major confirmation bias seekers, not critical thinkers.
     
  22. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Just another branch of the Time Traveling Kenyan Witch Doctors Cabal, a wholly owned subsidiary of Lizmencotm (#slitheringilluminati)
     
  23. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sometimes kooks do off themselves. They often have a hard time coping with life for obvious reasons.
     
  24. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True...., Then you'd have to explain why some died violently on the street apparently as an assassination when nothing was taken?
     
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    Yeah, between people of interest dropping dead at the most convenient of times, or missing files suddenly showing up just after the statute of limitations has run its course, is it any wonder no problems have ever been made to stick against Bill or Hilary Clinton? It's all in the imagination of the vast right-wing conspiracy...
     

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