BREAKING: Robert Mueller is speaking right now, for the first time since the report was released

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  1. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

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    Cool impeach him T you guys are jumping up and down again, same as you were 3 years ago. Do the deed and let the people decide.
     
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    To be clear about something, the voters already decided in 2018 to elect someone capable and willing to hold Trump accountable.

    But the decision to institute impeachment proceedings is one that carries a great deal of implications especially given Trump's strangehold on the GOP and the fact that the McConnell controls the Senate. There is every benefit to slow rolling the investigation and slow rolling the start of an impeachment proceeding until the 2020 election.

    As Pelosi has made very clear, there is little reason to actually impeach Trump until Trump makes impeachment the only call.
     
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    So Mueller...is lying?
     
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    Ken Starr acted under a different set of guidelines than Mueller.

    Or more specifically, Ken Starr decided that he was not bound by the OLC memo regarding Presidential immunity.

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/mueller-bound-olcs-memos-presidential-immunity
     
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    1000 versus the 19 reasonable prosecutors on team Mueller who REMAIN indecisive? :roll: Mueller spent the moring running away from the only 2 questions Americans want answered. Did Trump obstruct justice, and did AG Barr lie about it? Mueller not only refuses to answer, he refuses to allow himself to be ASKED. Sideshow Bob Mueller gave Jerry Nadler the brush-off this morning. Mueller is never going to volunteer testimony, and I'm betting Nadler's going to be just fine with that.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since I basically agree with your statement why do you continually keep shoving it down peoples throats? Would it not be better for you to just name your candidate and build up support for that individual?
     
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    2018 doesn't mean crap, and again if you got the goods impeach him if not then all your doing is playing politics. Your party and your party's decisions will be judged in 2020. We will also find out if this whole thing was started with good conscience, the public will judge that as well. The American voter gets the final say and if you really believe your right, you have zero reason not to impeach.
     
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    I think Pete Williams hit the nail on the head and agrees with my hypothesis that the SC office followed the OLC memo AT THE VERY BEGINNING of the process, not after gathering the evidence and then reading the OLC memo. Subtle difference, but important long term...
     
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  9. hawgsalot

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    Oh please state why he could say Clinton committed crimes and Mules couldn't, be specific instead spewing nonsense.
     
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    No ... McGahn did tell Rosenstein Trump wanted to fire Mueller because Mueller had conflicts of interest. McGahn refused to fire Mueller directlty and approached Rosenstein, thus complying with Trump's directive appropriately.
     
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    2018 doesn't mean crap? Please elaborate.
     
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    I edited my post to include the specifics.
     
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    So we wasted money investigating since Mules couldn't say definitively Trump committed a crime. What a BS joke of excuse this has become. If the dems believe it then they should impeach immediately.
     
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    Wow.... that is unusually wrong.... you really need to read Volume 2, Section E...

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    Mueller's investigation has netted a profit from Manafort alone.

    But prosecuting and successfully convicting felons is not supposed to be a money making endeavor.
     
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    The left: Trump didn't let us frame him for something he didn't do, let's impeach him for trying to stop us from framing him.
     
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    I think if you listen again, he also said he could not accuse the President when he couldn't defend himself. The fact that Ken Starr was an ****** doesn't extend to Barr.
     
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    Yeah, the guy Mueller declined to prosecute for the same crime he knew about in 2014.

    What a laugh.
     
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    And he present a false case. Starr charged Clinton with 6 crimes and took it to the Speaker of the House and after Clinton left office the charges were presented to him by then IC Robert Ray and they were plea bargained.
    Mueller made a decision of collusion and conspiracy but then says he is not allowed to make a decision on obstruction of justice, that's crazy.
     
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    Gee, I wonder who's making the money off the Amazon pre-order of the Mueller report.
     
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    No, we didn't waste the money because of the Russian part of the investigation... Also Mueller was a WAY better fact-finding organization than Congress could ever be, so Volume 2 is important from that respect.

    But we do agree on your last point, so there's that...
     
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    The fact is President Clinton was CHARGED and those CHARGES were taken to the Speaker of the House seeking a removal from office so they could be prosecuted. The Democrats said obstruction of justice and even PERJURY did not rise to impeachment and removal so the charges were held until Clinton left office and then presented to him and he plea bargained them.
     
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    But it's great when it is....
     
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