Brexit: how do voters feel about the EU now?

....of course they have!! Do you have any idea about how the financial markets work in terms of passporting and solvence requirements???
Lloyd's of London is the largest insurance market in the world...they have opened up an office in Brussels as a result of Brexit....guess how many people they employ....30....staggering huh....the insurance market in London is around 40-50,000.....and now they have 30 in the EU....oh boy...the drain....anyway

.....unlike your posts....you opening your arse and spewing total diarrhoea....works both ways dingleberry....

 

yeah, it's sad for their people, not sure how it will turn out

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...odds-win-cuts-johnson-commons-majority-to-one

So the Tory majority down to 1 and a big loss in their vote. The other thing though is that this suggests that the Brexit Party having achieved possibly one aim, to move the Tories even more to the right, by competing with them may in fact reduce the Tories vote in any forthcoming General Election.

 

I have a friend who was sent by his bank to Frankfurt, but it was shut.

The Germans have been trying to set up major financial centres since the Hanseatic League, but they never seem to get off the ground.

 

like the old chestnut of merging the Bourse and the UK Stock Exchange....the Germans were **** scared of it....the issue is they don't have the expertise or the critical mass in order to do it

 

I'm in construction. Since the Brexit vote, German kitchen companies etc.. have been going bust. The UK imports more but has been beginning to shift supplier. Germany needs us more than we need them.

How do I know they're going bust? Because when I source suppliers for construction jobs, they're telling me that more and more German suppliers have gone bust.

 

I suspect Germany may be hit a bit more than I thought before though it was always going to be hit the hardest due to the amount of business we do with them. I seem to remember seeing an article the other day which was suggesting they were near a recession even without that...but Germany is the only country I can think of that Brexit may have a noticeable effect on. The EU took 2 years to come to its deal. They are not going to get 27 countries to come to a different decision by October 31st. Indeed I think they have been told by Boris not to even speak to the UK unless they are prepared to go against International law and forget the Good Friday agreement. That is not going to happen. There will likely be no more talks and either a vote of No Confidence in Boris will happen when Parliament resumes leading to a General Election with an agreement from the EU of at least the potential to address the plans of the winner or it will be the worse thing the UK has ever done to itself, No Deal.

Whether or not a No Deal badly effects Germany it remains that who it is going to effect worse and for the longest with no end in sight and no knowledge of what that eventual end will be is ourselves. That any country would willingly do this to itself suggests insanity or some other secret devious intent.

https://www.joe.ie/politics/bannon-on-the-bbc-676944

 

Classic example of how ill informed some UK citizens still are on Brexit.

 

funny you should say that my cousin has a wee plant in Yorkshire that fabricates worktops and kitchen units and other kitcheny stuff and says his order books are looking pretty good..?

 

The Brexit party split the vote on the right and opened the door for a pro-remain party.
This is why Boris is pretending to lurch to the right and is playing hardball for hard Brexit.
Despite the incompetence and division in the Tory party Labour still lost votes. When is the party membership going to admit that he is unelectable?
No wonder the Libs did so well.
They are the only party with a clear Brexit strategy and the only main party not lurching to the extremes.

 

Wake up and smell the regime.

 

If the deal the EU proposed wasn't dead, then the UK would have ratified it, however, the deal is dead and the EU aren't capable of realising that saying there is no other deal. The only way the UK could accept a deal with the EU is if the EU changes its deal.

 

A no deal Brexit is the only way to leave the EU.

 

It is the Right of the Labour Party itself which is making him 'unelectable'. It is the non democratic people in the Government and Integrity Institute coming up with lies which are making him 'unelectable'. Only once we got into the electoral rules for the Press at the last election and they had to be more honest did we see him gain approval. That will happen again. Then if we have the Tories and Brexit fighting each other if Corbyn does not get an overall majority at the very least Labour under Corbyn with a coalition with the SNP and Greens can make needed changes.

I was listening to Mark Blyth, economist at Brown University speak the other day. He was talking about how the economic situation we have at the moment, neo liberalism can no longer work. He said the widespread belief among economists was basically that we were moving towards fascism. He could not stand that so came up with a scenario where tackling the climate would save us from that. He also pointed out that the Governments we have had since WW2 and how they work are not suitable for what we have now and what is coming. That is why they are unable to produce results which are beneficial to their citizens and why they are loosing votes. When the economic situation does not work Government is asked to sort it out, by fascists to save Capitalism and by socialists to change it. I know where I stand on that one.

 

You still think the deal rejected by Parliament was proposed by the EU?
I'm not sure you are qualified to take part in any conversation about Brexit.

 

Better have another referendum then as absolutely nobody from the leave campaign suggested that before the first one.

 

Nope. It's the voters who have made Corbyn unelectable.
Why you think the Greens would support Corbyn's Labour party is beyond me. They didn't stand a candidate in order to help the Lib's win.
You ain't getting Lib support either unless Corbyn comes out against Brexit.

 

No, that's no democracy; 'vote and vote again until the result reflects what one side wants'.
Do you know how democracy works?
You don't vote until one side wins, you vote, the side who wins wins, and that's fair.

 

well you and I disagree there.

Yes, I am sure it is. I realised myself after I wrote that that the only Green member in Westminster is totally stuck in mainstream mentality. My thinking came from the Scottish Greens particularly Patrick Harvey which is a completely different story.

Stop making this personal. It is not about me and I most certainly did not suggest the LibDems would be doing anything except supporting the status quo - which is not working. It is the inability of the mainstream parties to accept that Neo Liberlaism is finished which has opened the door for people like Boris, like Farage, like No Deal Brexit, like fascism. You are so stuck in Corporate Media thinking that you never listened to a word I said and hence in essence gave no reply.

 

So ending up with a result nobody voted for is how democracy works?
NOBODY voted for no deal. It wasn't on the ballot. All the leading campaigners said we would get a new deal which would be better than what we had,
You should know this.
You really ought to know who proposed the failed deal as well.
Hint - it's generally known as May's deal. There's a clue in there.

 

By ''you'' I meant it in the plural. As in the unelectable far left.
Parliamentary democracy needs a viable opposition party and Corbyn is just hiding.
Have you (plural) got a policy on Brexit yet other than say nothing, hope it fails, have a general election.

 

I voted in that referendum;

It was Leave or Remain.

No one voted for a deal with the EU because it wasn't on the ballot.

People either voted to remain in the EU or leave the EU.
A no deal Brexit is the only way to leave the EU.


You're suggesting we leave the EU but still obey the EU in a deal before we get a chance to negotiate any other deal with a real country.
Think outside the EU and know the EU is not the only game in town in this world we live in and why should the EU get first choice on a deal with Brexit Britain if it's just going to keep the status quo for both parties? - Locking us to the EU when we leave the EU is not Brexit or ridding us of the shackles of the EU now is it? - Think about the things you say before you say them.
No one wants to stay in the EU or obey the EU if they voted to leave the EU.

 

Many people voted for a new deal with the UK because that is what they were sold by leading Brexit campaigners. Even Rees Mogg pushed the theory that we could leave and get a better trade deal. We can't as has been proven by May's deal.
I think about everything I say before I say it. That's why I've never said we should accept the deal and leave. I want to remain with the deal we currently have which is far better ( contrary to the promises of the leave campaign).
No deal is so damaging and so far from what the leave campaigners were promising that it would be extremely undemocratic to impliment it against the wishes of both Parliament and the British people.
It is not the only way to leave but it is by far the worst way we could leave.

 

You're crazy, how would signing up to a deal with the EU to force us into a political and customs union with the EU while having a backstop on the island of Ireland keeping Northern Ireland in the EU leaving the EU?

There are far better people to trade with than the EU. You're stuck in the past if you think the UK's future is in the EU or tied down to the EU minus a vote in the EU.

 

A deal with the EU is damaging since the UK have already rejected the deal and the EU won't change the deal. - It's damaging to a deal with America for one.
To vote again is a punch in the teeth and a kick in a groin since it means 1 vote wasn't good enough since it suggests the result was wrong.

Businesses who depend on the EU have only themselves to blame since they're not preparing for a no deal, and I'd be damned if the UK state should bail them out when they've had 3 years to prepare and to change who they depend on for their business - Let them sink/fail, it's down to the CEO of the business to run the business, not the UK government, and it's on the CEO's shoulders if they're able to function after no deal - given they've had 3 years now to make the changes for the future of their businesses.